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    • CommentAuthorEmperor
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2011 edited
     (10004.1)
    And to finish, there is also 2000AD fandom, which is large active and a little bit scary from time to time:


    • Everything Comes back to 2000 AD - news, reviews and podcasts

    • 2000 AD Review - now defunct but a great resources for interviews and reviews

    • Zarjaz and Dogbreath from FutureQuake Press (I'll declare an interest here, as I currently scriptdoctor for them), 2000AD and Strontium Dog (respectively) fanzines (the former giving a certain droid, not a million miles from the thread starters, one of their first print appearances), one of a number that have appeared over the years - Class of '79, Nu-Earth and ZOOAD being a few others (you can also probably include FutureQuake in there which Art started for his rejected Future Shocks and it blossomed from there)

    • The Prog Slog - a venerable effort to review every single prog (now under new management thanks to Thrill Power Overload)

    • 2000 AD Covers Uncovered - the background to the current covers and some classic ones too

    • 2000 AD Sketch Show - sketches by the droids

    • The Cellar of Dredd - a blog about one of the biggest collections of Judge Dredd (and 2000AD) goodies, that will only be complete when John Wagner is in there preserved in Boing

    • Yes Commissioner - commissions from the droids (or 2000AD-related commissions)

    • 2000 AD Earthlings - the 2000 AD group on DeviantArt, with a mix of fans and droids

    • 2000 AD Collectables - a gallery of the merchandise that has been released over the years

    • Models of Dredd - 2000AD and Judge Dredd statues and figures, not the only one as there is also 2000AD and Scifi Modelling, although you have to dig deeper

    • Someone Old, Someone New - a commission blog with the theme that they need to contain someone from current British comics and and older classic character, which does tend to involve a 2000AD character and someone else

    • The Hipster Dad's Book Shelf - part of Grant Goggans' sites that try to keep the flame alive over the Pond, see also the older Thrill Power Thursday and Reprint This



    And probably some others I've overlooked - sorry.

    edit: Ooops, there is also the Rowdy Yates Yap Shop on Paltalk which often has a droid or two pass through - Colin MacNeil and John Smith are regulars, Chris Weston has popped in and Carlos Ezquerra has been sighted a few times, Pat Mills even dropped in once. It is open every Wednesday evening.
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    2000AD has always been on my bucket list of things to work in. Ty Templeton and I were in the queue to do a Judge Dredd thing at DC before they pulled the plug on that experiment, but that wouldn't have been the same thing as drawing an actual Future Shock or serialized strip.

    Used to get it a monthly packet of progs when I was growing up in Winnipeg -- don't see them anymore.

    ~R
    • CommentAuthorarthurwyatt
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2011 edited
     (10004.3)
    They rejected my pitch, of course, because while it was ( I still think) a pretty decent story it would have made a terrible FutureShock. But they did send me what is still the most polite and helpful rejection letter I've ever gotten. And it was prompt and on paper. You come to appreciate these things after you hearing the chirping crickets enough.


    Current Tharg, Matt Smith, is a master of extremly short rejections that summarise exactly why a story doesn't work - which can sting a little, but on the other hand if the story can be made to work he's just handed you the key to doing so.
    • CommentAuthorRobson
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2011
     (10004.4)
    A lapsed American reader - sadly, I accumulated Progs faster than I could read them. I continue to keep up with TPBs, always looking through Previews to make sure I'm not missing anything.

    My favo(u)rite ABC Warrior, of course, is Deadlock.
    • CommentAuthorDan Kelly
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2011
     (10004.5)
    Been reading the prog since (I think 1990) - wanted to read it earlier but my parents thought it too violent.

    I stuck with it through the Bad Days in the mid nineties and have reaped the goodness from the DIggle and Smith eras.

    And Si, don't be coy - were'nt you the youngest droid to write for 2000ad at some point?
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      CommentAuthorbluetyson
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2011
     (10004.6)
    Yeah, I know you can get freebies there etc.

    What I was suggesting was if you can get a few in the places lots of yank readers are looking for comics now basically as advertising.

    If you had 2000 AD Rebellion or something as the publisher, you'd be first in alpha sorting order, too. :)
    • CommentAuthorKradlum
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2011
     (10004.7)
    I read it for years, then stopped about 15 years ago and had to give up my massive collection of progs and 2000AD monthlies due to being homeless. I just started again recently, mainly due to their social media campaign on Twitter. I haven't had time to read last week's prog yet and this week's is due on the shelves tomorrow!

    I have a bit of a collection of original 2000AD artwork going back to when I didn't have a wife and 2 kids and had some disposable income.
    • CommentAuthorGordon
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2011
     (10004.8)
    I used to love reading 2000AD but I reluctantly gave it up in the second half of the last decade (2005/2006ish) because I believed Strontium Dogs, Rogue Trooper, Slaine etc were dominating the pages too much. I appreciate they're fan favourites and sell copies but I prefered to see new characters and concepts like Leviathan. Still pick up the odd TPB though, such as the Dredd tale 'Origins'.
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      CommentAuthoreDave
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2011
     (10004.9)
    2000ad is awesome. its particularly galling to read this today as I have just now had to cancel my regular order at nostalgia and comics, including the galaxy's greatest. i'll probably subscribe eventually, but i'm bound to miss a few issues. Gah!
    • CommentAuthorEmperor
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2011
     (10004.10)
    It has been pointed out that no one has yet linked to the 2000AD forum, plenty of news and reviews, plus the Hivemind can answer just about any 2000ad-related question and if you are thinking about going for a Future Shock or sending work to Tharg, then there is plenty of help in the Creative Common.
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      CommentAuthorcurb
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2011 edited
     (10004.11)
    For me, it all started with a handed-down copy of the 1986 annual, in which Shako (THE ONLY BEAR ON THE CIA DEATH LIST) blew my tiny mind. Been reading uniterrupted for some 14 years now, and while I'll admit that my continued loyalty is partially down to nostalgia and ritual, there's still at least one thing I really enjoy in each issue. John Wagner continues to deliver the goods with Dredd, Robbie Morrison's Nikolai Dante is growing into an absolute masterpiece, and the aforementioned Al Ewing has nailed what to me is the perfect 2000AD tone. I know I won't enjoy every strip in every issue *coughPatMillscough*, but I can't see myself cancelling my subscription any time soon.

    And seeing as there will probably never be a better time to ask: Si - any chance of more Lobster Random? The last arc seemed to end on something of a cliffhanger to me.
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    And Si, don't be coy - were'nt you the youngest droid to write for 2000ad at some point?


    Garth Ennis is pretty hard to beat - 19 or 20, IIRC, and already published in Crisis.
    • CommentAuthorDan Kelly
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2011
     (10004.13)
    Hi Art. (I'm enjoying samizdat squad)

    Si's first future shock was March 2001 so he'd have been 19/20. His website says he was born 1981, but not when

    Ennis's first credit was program 700 in October 1990, so he was already 20 according to Wikipedia.

    (first dates from Barney which Emporer seems to have missed)
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    My local library has a massive pile of 2000AD volumes and TPB'S, even a couple of old favourite from my teen years, DEvlin Waugh: Swimming In Blood and Shimura

    I've enjoyed the "Savage" series especally the recent "Crims" story arc. And there was also Cradlegrave, which was a very underrated story IMHO.

  15.  (10004.15)
    Current Tharg, Matt Smith, is a master of extremly short rejections that summarise exactly why a story doesn't work - which can sting a little, but on the other hand if the story can be made to work he's just handed you the key to doing so.


    It was Matt who sent me the letter (this would probably have been his first year or two of Tharging) and yes, he was very succinct about why it wasn't a good FutureShock, but in a very polite and very helpful way. Honestly, if I'm ever in a position where I need to send out rejection letters, I'm going to follow his example.
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    yeah, he's pretty great that way. My number one piece of advice to anyone pitching Future Shocks, assuming they’ve got the basics of writing down, would be to pay very close attention to what Matt is telling you in any rejections you get. - And really that goes for both stories that are dead in the water as well as ones he’s giving you an opening to repitch. Probably the most common thing he used to say in my rejections was that they shouldn’t just bejust dry ideas, no matter how crazy, they should be character led stories with characters who have a real stake in whatever the story is about - once I started addressing that I actually started having some success in my pitches.
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      CommentAuthortim12s
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2011
     (10004.17)
    Me and Th' Tooth... it's been a long, strange love affair.

    Must've started around 1980, maybe a little before that. Fast forward to Secondary School, having my Electronics teacher nick my copy off me every Friday morning to read during class. (And a couple of years later on, bumping into him at Slimelights.) Having one of my mates being one of the late 80's/early 90's weirdo vanguard, drawing 'Bradley' - and also having the unenviable task of killing off Johnny Alpha... getting me into drawing comics myself, starting this weird dual existence of being an Illustrator who also draws comics... late nights listening to John Peel, Bolt-thrower, Head of David, Extreme Noise Terror, watching John Smith's scripts coming to life on 'Revere'.

    Being offered an opportunity to submit something for Crisis, and totally bottling on the job.

    Bonding over a love of 2000AD at Uni in Hull, and starting a noise-metal Industrial band. (And drinking to glorious excess).

    And more recently, going from a solid weekly reader, to an intermittent buyer when I can get my hands on it after moving to the USA in... 2000AD.

    And while I've been about as far away from the UK as possible, I've had my artwork in spin-off fan-'zines like Zarjaz and Futurequake. I've had a score of potential FutureShocks turned down by Andy Diggle (a former Tharg) when I lived in LA back in 2000, one of which has become the seed that has grown into Steampunk Action-Hero Pastiche, The New Adventures of Sir Harry Chiselton.

    Funnily enough, while my numeric-nomenclature would make me an ideal 2000AD Droid, I have never, in 25 years of drawing comics, submitted any of my artwork to them. What am I like, eh?
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2011
     (10004.18)
    While I love Dredd (and am buying the collections as Rebellion put them out), 2000AD to me is basically two stories that I came across at the right point in my life.

    Firstly, D.R and Quinch. As a teen, when comics wasn't really my thing, as a demonstration of how everything I thought I knew about comics was wrong (Nextwave would do it to me again a decade or more later)

    Secondly, Halo Jones. Which I only read fairly recently, and which astounds me that something like that was on the shelves of Smith's alongside the Beano.

    I still have knocking around somewhere in this flat the rulebooks from the Games Workshop Dredd tabletop RPG, which was probably what got me into the whole thing in the first place.
    • CommentAuthorKradlum
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2011
     (10004.19)
    I still have knocking around somewhere in this flat the rulebooks from the Games Workshop Dredd tabletop RPG


    That reminds me, I still have the Judge Dredd board game somewhere. As I recall, it was an excellent game.
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    Si's first future shock was March 2001 so he'd have been 19/20. His website says he was born 1981, but not when

    Ennis's first credit was program 700 in October 1990, so he was already 20 according to Wikipedia.


    I grow my new rings every May. So, yep, I was 19.

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