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    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2011
    After so many years of waiting, A Dance with Dragons comes out later this week. Who has ordered it? Who's taking time off of work to read it? With this book taking place in the North and in Esteros, we know it's going to feature Dany and Jon, Tyrion has also been confirmed. Theories on what is coming for these characters?

    When the book comes out, do remember to use the hide tag for spoilers.
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2011
    I will be picking it up and devouring it. Very, very excited. Luckily, unlike the comic shops around me, the bookstores don't suck, so I know they will have it.
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    I am feeling quite fortunate that I came to the series late. (I started reading them about halfway through the broadcast of the HBO show). I finished Feast yesterday, so only have 2 days to wait to read the next one, not 6 years. Of course, then I'm gonna have to wait 6 years for The Winds of Winter...

    Most excited about: What Tyrion has been up to, what Brienne shouted, and whether Cersei has been beheaded yet. :)
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2011
    Have my copy pre-ordered and am incredibly lucky that my local barnes & noble is the one where GRRM is starting his signing tour. I'll be there early in the am to get my book and wristband, spend the day reading, then stand in line to get it signed and thank one of my favorite authors. I'm more than a little bit excited.

    From the book itself: I can't wait to get back to Tyrion. And also, I'm very curious about what Bran has been up to with Coldhands.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2011

    Nice! I'm attending the signing he's doing in Redwood City on the 27th. A friend of mine went in on the tickets with me because it was $42 for one ticket and a book or $48 for two tickets and a book, plus three other autographs. I'm getting the book and one autograph (for my Warriors anthology) and he's getting two of his first edition Song of Ice and Fires signed.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2011
    • CommentAuthorJECole
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2011
    I for one will be spending most of Tuesday reading the hell out of it.

    I'm counting down the hours until my local Waterstones opens on Tuesday morning. I feel like a kid at Christmas!
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    I also finished Feast yesterday, so very happy not to have to wait 6 years.
    Although I was quite bored with the first half of that book. Here's hoping DwD doesn't feel like it too needed a ballsier editor to say "George, you can cut a good chunk of this and make the book better".
    • CommentAuthorColby
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2011
    Theories for the characters, I do.

    With Dany, I think it's pretty obvious that either in this book or the next she's going to encounter the Iron Born. And either the iron born are going to bend the knee or she's going to fuck them up royally. Because I can't really see how they can stand up the vast legions that Dany has created for herself. Either way, the Iron Born are going Dany's ticket back to Westeros.

    I think that Tyrion is going to be guided by Varys into the employ of Dany as something close to her own Hand.

    I think that the alliance with Stannis is going to reach it's breaking point in this volume and Jon will have to deal with great divide in the Watch as Cerys' agent corrupts the men.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2011
    I don't think Dany has "vast legions". She's got the eunch warriors, true, and a mercenary army/company, but the rest are all freed slaves and people's she's picked up along the way. Aside from her dragons, because dragons and wooden ships don't mix very well, I'm pretty sure that if she tried to take on the Ironborn they'd mess her up something rotten.
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    @RenThing: Yeah, but the only thing the Ironborn really have over Dany is the horn that can (supposedly) control the dragons. That also kills the person who blows it. Sure she doesn't have ' vast legions' of troops, but she's got a fair few and as long as she doesn't try to attack them at sea, I'd imagine she'll be alright. Also Jorah Mormont fought the Ironborn in Balon's Rebellion I think, so he'll have some relevant advice.

    In case it isn't obvious, I really like this series. Thank god for late birthday presents and a dedicated sci-fi and fantasy store in Sydney.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2011
    @Jamie Heron

    Ah, but remember:
    she doesn't have Jorah anymore. She sent him and Barristan off on that suicide mission and they both survived, only Barristan begged forgiveness for the actions he'd taken with her grandfather and got back into her good graces and Jorah didn't, getting exiled instead.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2011
    If you have an eReader you might want to see about ordering the ebook version. Amazon is releasing the Kindle version at midnight (which I have).
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    @RenThing: OOOOOhhhhhhh Thanks for that clearly a re-read is in order during the next few hours until bookshops open for me...or not.
    • CommentAuthorColby
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2011
    @ RenThing

    She has all of the unsullied from the slave city which I think is a shit ton. True the other slaves aren't trained enough to deal with the iron born but nothing defeats the Unsullied on an open battle field which the iron born will most likely have to do.
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    Fuck yes, Fuck yes, Fuck yes, Fuck yes, Fuck yes, Fuck yes, Fuck yes, Fuck yes, Fuck yes. FUCK YES.

    I think it was the last one in the store - I'd rung up about 45 minutes earlier to get them to hold it for me and when I got there my Dad couldn't find another copy on the shelves. Fuck yes.
    (I'm kind of happy about getting this book, you may have gathered)

    Sadly I'm off to bed without reading much of it, in the past 48 hours only four have been dedicated to sleeping. Joe Abercrombie is also fucking good at writing. Though I am beginning to regret staying up until 3 to finish that book...
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2011
    So, I'm a few chapters in and I'm really enjoying it. As I described it on Facebook: Reading A Dance with Dragons is like running into an old friend (who you also expect to die horribly at any second).

    It's interesting to see where which parts of the early chapters match up with Feast and how.

    Of course, I'm also a little annoyed as one of my favorite theories,
    that Melissandre or someone else was going to blow the giant's horn and bring down the Wall
    , just literally went up in smoke.
    • CommentAuthorSBarrett
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2011
    I finished it today (Amazon delivered it to my door on Monday).

    So much left unanswered and so many more questions.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2011
    My wife got the hard copy and I got the Kindle, which says I'm about 78% done.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2011
    My review from my reading/writing blog.

    Last night after a great dinner out with my friend and editrix Leslie I came home, spent some time with Michelle, fed the boy, and finished the book.

    As I said before, it felt like seeing some old friends you haven't heard from in a while (and who you expected to die horribly at any moment) which was good because the voice and tone of the characters was something I was worried about. Why? Well, George R.R. Martin has, in the past, taken some time in finishing a novel but he hasn't ever taken as long as he did between Feast and Dance and one thing I was concerned for was that he would've lost the voice of his characters. Thankfully, that doesn't seem to have happened.

    The plot moves a bit more in this book than it did in Feast in that we have a greater span of time happening (at least as far as I remember) although parts of it did feel like they were bogged down, particularly around Meereen. The thing that has held up A Dance with Dragons was Meereen, or as GRRM put it "the Meereenese Knot". In previous books GRRM felt like he'd written himself into a corner with having Daenerys end up there and staying to rule. Since he has said many times that he knows how the series is going to end, I'm assuming that Dany has to get somewhere from Esteros and having her stop and stay in Meereen kind of got in the way of it. The plot felt slower in these chapters with not a lot going on, nothing really knew being discovered, and I could feel some of that frustration; to put it in a different way, the characters speak a lot words but don't say anything, they take a lot of actions but don't really accomplish much.

    My only other complaint is that I didn't feel like this was a book with a beginning, middle, and end really which makes sense when you consider that, originally, it was supposed to be part of A Feast for Crows; the taste that is left in my mouth after, so to speak, is that this was filler. Delicious filler to be sure but not anything that left me sated in any substantial way. It's one thing to leave a story with some things unsaid but it's another to leave some things unresolved.

    One thing I found I enjoyed about ADwD was that it features some characters who received little to no face time in previous books who get to grow a bit, who we are fleshed out more. Mostly I think that's because a lot of the other, more important characters in previous books are now dead but, still, it's nice to see them move from one-dimensional characters to actually having lines and personality and I found myself cheering on some characters who I wouldn't have expected to see much of.

    I do have some other praise and complaints but those would involve specifics about the plot and so I won't go into that here. In the end did I enjoy it? Yes, very much, and as with his previous books it leaves you with more questions than it answers and I expect there to be many more theories sprouting up about the fate of characters and what really has gone on. I would say that A Dance With Dragons, while not the strongest book in the series by far, definitely isn't the weakest.