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  1.  (10055.1)
    Correct me if I am wrong here but a library is supposed to have books right? A place to find words on paper to enrich and enlighten.

    So why is it that when I walked to my local library today (a massive structure that takes up almost an entire city block here in York) I find a place consisting of a coffee shop, "teen den" (which i will blather about in a moment), an entire wing dedicated to movies you can rent, another wing with only computers, and only a small corner of shelves set back away from all of that consisting of no more than 12 shelves with severely spaced out books on them.

    I will have to admit when i walked in the door I was elated to find one of the display windows dedicated to graphic novels with pictures of Batman and the avengers displayed proudly with information of who owns the largest collection of graphic novels in the library system.
    I had to ask where they were hiding them. Apparently in the "teen den" way in the back consisting mostly of manga. While i'm not against manga per-se i want my proper superhero fix.

    The trip was actually to get more books about hats but none were to be found there....they only had two books on historic costumes, i kinda wanted to cry.

    Maybe I'm spoiled from where i moved from- the considerably large collection of graphic novels proudly on display and damn it they had plenty of Warren in there!! They had to add an extra wing because they had too many books.

    Where have all the books gone?? Am I the only one facing a library with a lack of books? and why am i tempted to empty out my own personal library and donate just so they have books.....
  2.  (10055.2)
    that sucks! i live in nevada and we have a pretty good library system. they have loads of graphic novels (which they keep separate from the kids section). most libraries have access to ordering other books from other libraries. i'd check this out if i were you.
  3.  (10055.3)
    Dunno. Might be a population issue. Manga, videos, coffee shops, and whatnot, bring the foot traffic that the library can use as evidence, to show that they should remain open. I don't know in York but in Florida, the Libaries have been fighting Lord Voldermort Gov. Scott's decision to close pretty much all cultural things that don't make money. Your libary might be using that as way to remain open, even sacrificing its own reason for existence. I'm lucky in Orlando, since enough of the rich political people like libraries, and I haven't seen my local one resort to bizarre tricks to keep their doors.
    • CommentAuthorOrpheus
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2011
    This side of the pond in the UK, we are having a mass Library closures. By the hundreds.

    Not really a big user of libries personaly, but i still see it as a great shame to have such resources removed. It seems that information recently has become so easily accessable that libries are becoming obsolete. But as it goes for renting fiction, i know far too few people who would go to the library than just buying it outright.
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2011
    I remember when my childhood library did not even carry comics, the cd section was a joke and the video section was a great number of PBS and Natgeo documentaries, but there were books a plenty for every topic imaginable. I find now, however, even though I only live a few minutes from a decent library the wealth of information available online supersedes that of the ole brick and mortar.
    • CommentAuthorHelljin
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2011
    I just started using libraries again after about an 8 year hiatus. I actually feel guilty that I haven't been in the library for so long.

    The local library looks pretty small but it's usually fairly busy and has a friendly staff, I am paying for the library system through my property taxes and it's silly for me not to make use of it.

    I can log into the system from home and have books transferred from other branches.
  4.  (10055.7)
    I'm pretty sure that the library has the book transfer- it makes it annoying if i'm under a time crunch. And very much cuts down on doing the whole library thing, grab books off shelf, see if they are what you are looking for, put back or study it or bring it home.

    I REALLY miss the documentary section (ala VHS) in the library I do remember that was all they had and flat out would refuse to carry anything different.

    I wonder when the transition started to happen. I find books highly entertaining but I've never thought of the library as a place to hang out or be an entertainment mecca, I feel like seeing this they are one step away from carrying video games. I wanna read and research shit!! there are so many things that will not find their way on line that you would only find in binded page form. That is i'm sure they get them all scanned into the e-reader thingys.
    • CommentAuthorStefanJ
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2011
    I live in Washington County, Oregon. A relatively well-to-do suburban area outside of Portland.

    The library system is top-notch. Yes, there's huge selection of DVDs, and a coffee shop in the library, but the book selection is excellent, and there's a great automated inter-system loan arrangement. Automated check-outs, an ongoing used book sale in the lobby, and a pleasant environment.

    I've started taking advantage of their graphic novel selection, and audio-books.

    That said . . . many towns in rural areas of Oregon are seeing their libraries close.
    • CommentAuthorDarkest
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2011
    I haven't used the local Library in a long time. I know I should what with the threatens to shut them down but the new building makes me feel too weird. There's too much space. Librarys should be like low ceelinged churches, places of reverence and quiet. Not Bright and grey and too much space not enough books.
      CommentAuthorJay Kay
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2011
    My nearest library's sorta like that--it has a kids section, a little coffee shop place (which I actually really liked because it was nearby my bus stop and I was able to get a little breakfast and some coffee before my hour-long commute), a movie rack, and a whole section of computers. It still had a good, strong amount of books, even a decent collection of comics--had stuff like all of Y: The Last Man and about the first third of Fables.
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2011
    Kind of worried about the libraries here right now...there seems to be talk of closing down many branches and privatizing the rest. Scary.
    • CommentAuthorHelljin
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2011
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2011
    Yep. Signed it.

    He's also putting serious consideration in to selling subway station naming rights to companies.
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2011
    I had to interview my school's research librarian a year back, and a lot of these issues came up...

    I find books highly entertaining but I've never thought of the library as a place to hang out or be an entertainment mecca

    There's this push to make libraries something like a public forum, a place besides home and work that people congregate. Any library with a large room will usually have community events, but those are only for scheduled appearances and reservations. My problem is that most places that want to add a "coffee shop" atmosphere almost certainly mean a Starbucks-styled coffeeshop.

    He also lamented how little traffic his desk got, he was this fascinating guy who could find you ANYTHING that nobody bothered to ask. I dug out my old notes, his quote was
    People would rather do something themselves with mediocre results, than have to ask for help to have it done right.

    I've found my local public library a godsend in getting certifications to dig myself out of this economy.

    And I'll wrap with this... Closing Libraries in a Recession...
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2011
    I work in a public library, and this is pretty much epidemic. My own employers are doing pretty well, mostly because this is a liberal college town where libraries are appreciated perhaps more than the national average, but it's always a constant fight. If it's not people completely disregarding the written word, it's the lowlifes who flat-out steal everything that's not nailed down. That's usually the cause of unimpressive graphic novel collections, unfortunately.
  5.  (10055.16)
    Related to the space program, but kinda relates to this...

    We didn't put a man on the moon because some company thought they might be able to make a profit doing it. It takes vision to involve the common good of the American people without regard for profit. If you're charting a course for the country and your big idea is "no we can't'", then I don't want you leading the country.

    Rachel Maddow
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2011 edited
    The Columbus Metro Library is awesome. It's essentially 13 or so libraries in one, since each suburb has sworn fealty to the Main Branch. They have loads of graphic novels, and even make good on book ordering suggestions. I got them to order Duncan the Wonder Dog, and they already have an amazing collection of hard to find GNs and comics. Every single time I go in, I walk out with an armload of win.
  6.  (10055.18)
    @ Agentarsenic i miss being able to walk out with arm loads of wonderful books <3

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