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    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2011
    Amy Winehouse found dead at 27
    A terrible tragedy, but is anyone surprised?
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    Yeah, that it took this long.
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    Amy Winehouse obituary

    Singer with a soul-steeped voice whose instantly successful Back to Black album reflected her tormented experience of love

    I have no strong feelings on the matter, apart from that it is always sad for her loved ones to see someone they loved die young.
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    Wasn't a huge fan, but I liked her voice and hoped she'd pull herself together. Shame she couldn't, for whatever reason, break out of the downward spiral. Also, am slightly bewildered and disturbed by the torrent of pretty sanctimonious 'she brought it on herself, junkie' wankery that people were posting on Facebook, there are times when I really fucking worry what goes on in people's heads.
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2011
    I am a fan, maybe not huge, but def a fan. My very first listen I thought "she sounds like a boozed up Etta James." *sigh* Etta James is still kicking (well, barely, but still). So now I'm thinking, Damn. Dammit. Dammit.

    Like so many others, I noticed rockstars with volatile lives have a tendency to die at 27. But it's fucking sad that it's still happening. No official word on cause of death but I'll be surprised if it's not lifestyle related. What a fucking waste.

    And yeah, I've had to take some annoying twitter messages in stride. It's not a bad thing if I feel bad at the loss of Amy Winehouse a day after a massacre in Oslo, both are bad...are we looking for winning tragedies now? There's a lot of unresolved bullshit in the world and we're just flaming each other over expressions of sadness instead of trying to end some of it? But I'm wandering off the subject....

    Her music is amazing and it's a damn shame there won't be more, that Winehouse won't come to own her own life, and that all people feel they can say is "well, saw that coming."
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    Jon, why does it bewilder you? She did heavily abuse nearly every drug known to humanity. I was amazed she could still draw breath. She was killing herself, and to free her of blame on the matter would be ridiculous. Personal demons acknowledged, yes, but we're not talking about some dirt-poor abandoned child on the sidewalk addicted to crack cocaine.

    (Cause of death is still undetermined, of course, but even if drugs somehow weren't what killed her, the immense damage to her health was already certain.)

    That said, I hoped she'd pull herself together, although it eventually became impossible to believe she would. She was talented. I was never fond of her voice but I did like some of the music.
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2011
    Watching people in their downward spiral, hoping they'll pull out of it, and then eventually watching them die young is especially tragic, I think.

    Like her voice or not, it was hard to deny that she had talent. Imagine what she could have done with it if she'd gotten clean.

    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2011
    Dorkmuffin said what I was thinking.

    I'm a bit annoyed with seeing the people who mocked her downward spiral and took delight in the Latest Celebrity Gossip about her now honouring her and complimenting her. It's out of guilt, I think and reminds me of Michael Jackson's death (weird pedophile freak while living, GOD AMONG MORTALS after death). But whatever.

    Just fucking stop the Rehab jokes. And the "27 Club" shit.
    • CommentAuthorAnanzitusq
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2011
    It's a shame for a person to die.

    /question: am I wee bit "off" when i feel more outraged about the oslo attacks than her passing? and especially pissed that on my facebook feed i was the only one who posted a link to the news of the attack, while there is a great many more posts today about amy winehouse? I'm not sure how to feel about it really.
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    She had real talent, but something disfunctional in her head, mind or body that put her onto an uncontrollable trajectory of self destruction. Saddened, but not surprised sums it up for me.
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2011
    @Ananzitusq, no, I don't think you're off at all.
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2011 edited
    Sad to hear hope she enjoyed her life the press sure didn't want her to. This is no place for a soapbox speech.
    The reaction to celebrity death is always puzzling to me. The greatest of humans have died and not a peep but appear on a tabloid cover and its the event of a year
    • CommentAuthorOda
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2011 edited
    Andre: You make drug problems sound simplistic. They are not. And I think you know what he meant, no matter if she "brought it upon hersels" the people taking delight in the death of others make me feel sick right now. I'm not saying you are one of them, but one still seems a bit like an over-intellectual five-year-old when putting it that way in which you did.

    Now the "27 club" comments on the other hand, I kind if get, it's a weird coincidence if nothing else.
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    I was bewildered by the apparent callousness of some of the comments I'd seen, bordering on the vindictive - the 'I have no sympathy and don't care, she was an addict' type of thing. In some cases from people I had some respect for. Touched a raw nerve.
    • CommentTimeJul 24th 2011
    Callousness more like fact. Maybe Andre and others aren't treating it with the kid glove that her fans would appreciate.
    The only reason 99% know her was a song about refusing to get help and living with the consequences and these are the consequences. When you don't care other people tend not to care.
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    It's the one celebrity death that doesn't surprise me. She had a great voice, very distinctive, but she seemed almost subconsciously determined to destroy it.
    The very first time I saw or read anything about her was just after her first album came out, she went to do a quiet little gig, turned up drunk, mocked Madonna and then forgot the words to her own songs.

    And I think the reason I've seen more from people about this than Norway is that people feel personally touched by music, but unless they know someone in Norway, there's a slight sense of detachment from the event.
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    @RobSpalding - I think the reason I've seen more from people about this than Norway is that people feel personally touched by music, but unless they know someone in Norway, there's a slight sense of detachment from the event.

    Or that the sheer monstrosity of the events in Norway defy understanding, whereas the death of a celebrity we all knew was likely to go that way is a much smaller thing to get one's head around.
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    I think there's a disconnect here in that it's hard for many people to conceptualize that someone indulging in all manner of excessive drug use may actually not enjoying themselves on the way down. A woman who completely reduces herself like that is living a tortuous existence.
    • CommentAuthorKradlum
    • CommentTimeJul 24th 2011
    I saw her on the street just a few months ago, hanging out outside the Roti Hut in Shepherd's Bush with 2 of the hugest black guys I've ever seen. I don't know if they were body guards or just people she was hanging out with. She was a fairly regular visitor to the hospital that I work at, not in a "celebrity visits sick children" kind of way.

    I've seen people commenting on the 27 Club thing saying she wasn't talented. Interviews with musicians she has worked with seem to say otherwise. Her issue seemd to be dealing with fame and being in the public eye.

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