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    Now to sit back and watch the media play the blame game.

    When I was on campus and we had a brief period of lockdown, I kept on wondering if someone was in trouble, how would they remember the codes and whatnot to get into the (presumably safer) buildings and away from danger?
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    Dracko:

    Sorry, the comparison to alcohol just does not parse. I don't want to derail this thread by getting into the gun control argument. I pointed it out only because that's become the standard gun lobby response, avoiding the topic entirely. Blaming the schools and the security personnel at these institutions is the new boogie man.

    I grew up around guns. A healthy chunk of my family are career military and cops. I went hunting for years and I've fired everything form a .22 rifle to my cousin Anne's .50 Desert Eagle. Semi-automatic weapons are built for killing humans. Most handguns produced today are built for that actually. There's more paperwork involved in driving a car than in owning a gun in many states. I have to get my car checked yearly for emissions, buy stickers for parking and city ownership, renew my plates. Every few years I have to go in and get my eyes checked to make sure I'm not blind. My Firearms Owner ID? No such upkeep. Expires every 5 years, just mail in another application.

    You can't talk about random violence without asking the gun question. The violence would still be an issue of course, and the blame is always squarely on the perpetrator, but there's a damn bit of difference between someone stabbing or beating someone and some bastard with an arsenal walking into a crowded room.
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      CommentAuthorhowyadoin
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
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    It really sickens me that the anchor referred to the NIU shooting as the "valentine's day massacre."

    I haven't seen any news coverage, but I can't help wondering wonder how many minutes it took the networks to come up with a logo for this?
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    @ScottieB ---> a serious point, with much wisdom. I guess the other side of it is more complex than just kids not appreciating what they have. When I was in school, nearly every facet of the experience seemed to reinforce the idea that life is primarily things you don't want to be doing, that if you wait quietly you'll be pushed along to the next place you're meant to be, that most of my peers are unsympathetic and scared, that authority is bestowed arbitrarily, and that individuality is at best irrelevant but probably nonexistent. It was hard to appreciate anything about the experience when my philosophical objections to the place were consistently shrugged off, laughed at, or an excuse to give me that "life is full of things you don't want to do" speech. I think the factory-worker-training-program that is public education right now is broken to the core and that unless drastic changes happen-- well, basically, until kids feel like more than just little cogs in a giant, uncaring machine there's no way you can get them to appreciate the fact that education is a privilege.

    It's kind of corny, but perhaps if there had been more interfacing with the city I lived in, interaction with people out of our geographic/demographic, maybe I'd appreciate what I had more, but part of me thinks that public education would have found a way to make even that more of a Kafka-esque nightmare than an enriching experience.

    @orwellseyes--> shit, for real-- NRA-types like to act all badass but the whole point of the gun is that it's an equalizer for total pussies.

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