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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2011
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    @ Flabyo

    I doubt we'll get HAL or Skynet any time soon, but it does occur to me that if we continue the top-down and bottom-up approaches, we may well find some form of AI in the middle.
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      CommentAuthoradampark
    • CommentTimeAug 9th 2011
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    If any cashed-up Melbourne Whitechaplains are interested, Singularity Summit 2011 is happening in our town this year...
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    Singularity? If it happens, it happens. Whenever someone says "this must happen, it is unavoidable", like some people do with the singularity, I usually get quite skeptical. Let's wait and see. There are still a lot of issues that seem hard to overcome, like scarcity of energy. Computing power and memory banks demand power, which isn't in infinite supply.

    And if it does happen, I'm sure we'll still find a whole lot of new things to complain about.
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    @Jon Wake: Was that a response to me? Intelligent design? Fuck, no.

    Evolution is a dynamic system with control mechanisms. These can be predators, parasites, or natural disasters. They're selective pressures. Normally, if you have a thing that can make large numbers of copies of itself, whether it's a bunny or a nanorobot, that thing will expand exponentially unless a selective pressure exists. That selective pressure turns the curve from exponential and asymptotic (also known as a "singularity") to a balanced and stable logarithmic curve.

    If it weren't for that fact, we'd be neck deep in antelope right now.

    If you've got self-replicating AI, there are going to be variations in them. Everything is subject to entropy. Those variations are going to compete. There will be evolutionary selective pressures on them. Thus, there will be a carrying capacity, and a singularity will be impossible. That's what I was driving at.

    Please remember that it's a bit insulting to tell a biological scientist that he's proposing intelligent design. I don't mean to be rude, but...really.

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