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    • CommentAuthorabkosher
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2008
     (1012.1)
    Is anyone else enamored with Vertigo's Exterminators? I'm always puzzled why the book hasn't gotten more attention. I think Simon Oliver's writing in it is fantastic. Tony Moore is incredible at making highly distinct looking characters with different faces and body-types (a skill sadly lacking in comicdom in general). It's a great pairing of writer and artist. For those who haven't read it, it's about a crew of pest exterminators including an ex-con and his stepdad, a buddhist cowboy, a Cambodian war criminal and a single mother (and ex-client). The villains include a mystical priest of a cockroach god, a corporate conspiracy involving a bug poison that doubles as a street drug and super-intelligent Mayan hissing cockroaches.

    I recently read somewhere that it was ending (canceled) in May. This is such a crime.
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      CommentAuthortedcroland
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
     (1012.2)
    A lot of Vertigo stuff is being cancelled...it doesn't seem to be doing so well. American Virgin, Army@Love, Deadman...it's kind of odd, especially considering how Vertigo used to be so immensely successful.

    I'm hoping to have something of this conversation with Becky Cloonan at WonderCon, if I see her. She might have some insight that I don't.

    Oh, right, topic...Exterminators is great, though I'm pretty behind. I still pick it up, but I haven't read it for six or seven issues, if not more. Stockpiling!
    • CommentAuthorabkosher
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
     (1012.3)
    Army @ Love too? Jeez.
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    Army@Love

    I thought I had read somewhere that this is being done in "seasons" and as such will have a new #1 when the next story arc launches?

    I couldn't get into EXTERMINATORS, though.
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      CommentAuthorJoe Paoli
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
     (1012.5)
    Exterminators is a good read. I was bummed to hear it was being cancelled.
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    Also Testament was cancelled, which is the only one that I thought was worth keeping out of the huge pile of cancellations recently. I've tried most of the Vertigo titles and all the cancelled ones listed here failed to grab me at all.

    Wildstorm has been going cancellation crazy too.

    I am starting to question Warner/DC's commitment to their less mainstream imprints. Vertigo, especially, isn't doing enough to keep it's successful writers any more. They should have got Jason Aaron on an exclusive and not lost him to Marvel (with a special clause for continuing with Scalped thankfully).

    My bet is on The Un-Men for the next one they cull. I think Loveless only survived because of Azarello, if he wasn't one of their top writers it would be history. I've been persevering with Loveless, it started great then went off. It has one more story arc to prove to me I shouldn't call Page 45 and have it taken off my order.

    To stop being negative though Vertigo still has a set of strong titles, not as strong as they used to have but still enough to keep them going. 100 Bullets, DMZ, Crossing Midnight and Scalped are great. Vinyl Underground looks set to join the list too.
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    Financial constraints meant that I only read the first trade of Exterminators. I really enjoyed it, it felt completely different and I love the lowlife flavour it has. A shame that it hasn't attracted a wider readership. I'll try and scrape up the cash to pick up the rest of the trades.

    With Vertigo going cancellation crazy I suppose I ought to pick up DMZ and show my support for one of the most genuinely interesting comics out there at the moment.
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    There was talk that Crossing Midnight was ending, too - did that end up being true or not?
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    I've heard nothing about Crossing Midnight being cancelled but the numbers for issues haven't been too great.

    I'm assuming that is has very healthy TPB sales though just like Lucifer did.

    Also, I will literally cry if Crossing Midnight gets cancelled before Mike Carey has done everything he wants with it.
    • CommentAuthorAllen
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
     (1012.10)
    I'm quite worried about all the stuff Vertigo has been cutting. I have been picking up American Virgin and Exterminators in trades and they are done or about to be done with. I'm doing the same with Crossing Midnight and Scalped, but I wonder does my money in trades "count"? I know Vertigo is a bit of an exception when it comes to things, but I really don't want individual issues, I want the damn trade. I can't afford both and only make an exception with DMZ, I started with singles, got it put on my pull list and just happy to get new Brian Wood monthly. I don't want to change my buying habit if possible, I order the trades and pick them right up, but do these buys have less merit or then singles? This has been bugging me over the last few weeks when I've talked to my comic shop owner so input is very welcome.
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      CommentAuthortedcroland
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
     (1012.11)
    I think I've stated this on another thread, but I have heard that Warner is forcing DC to retain more rights over the titles they release under Vertigo. Apparently they weren't too happy that if a Preacher, Transmet, Sandman, etc. movie or TV show or whatever was going to be released they wouldn't get anything out of it. So now the contracts include less creator owned implications, so a lot of people are going to Image and Dark Horse and whatnot to do their books they want to do on their own.

    This might be pure speculation, but I thought that's something close to what was happening.
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      CommentAuthornigredo
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
     (1012.12)
    i didn't know exterminators was being cancelled!!! one of the best series out there at the moment...
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    Okay.... I am now going to cry....

    Crossing Midnight is dead at #19, the source of this is Mike Carey so it's true.

    Vertigo is going to go to utter shit if things don't pick up soon... This was one of my favourite current comics!
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    Crossing Midnight is dead at #19,

    Absolutely terrible news.
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    Yeah, this really sucks. I just picked up my last American Virgin at the comic shop today. I swear, if Scalped gets the axe, there's no damn justice.

    Will
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      CommentAuthortonymoore
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2008
     (1012.16)
    it's true. the landscape out there is very harsh, especially for creator-owned properties. the Crossover craze has polarized the sales, and while the industry is up and top selling books are selling higher than they have in years, the middle ground is disappearing and the low end is taking a beating.

    Looking at Vertigo's sales figures, their "superstar" titles are selling 11-15K on monthlies, which is actually very sad. A lot of others are flying in the danger zone at below 10K. With titles like Scalped and whatnot raking in massive TPB sales, i think they'll survive, but not all of us are that fortunate.

    all i know is that i had a blast on The Exterminators, and my only regret is not being able to do more of it while it lasted. It stings a little to lose something i've invested myself in, and It will be missed. I'd like to thank everyone who has helped us out by supporting it.

    -T
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      CommentAuthornigredo
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2008
     (1012.17)
    i was really sorry to hear about it. i think it was the only current (not just vertigo) title that made me relive the excitement i had when reading stuff like preacher or transmet back then...any plans for the future?
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      CommentAuthortonymoore
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2008
     (1012.18)
    i've got a Fear Agent arc ahead of me, followed by attempting to get some work at one of the big two. Simon and i remain friends and i would love to work with him again, and i have another project i'm planning to pitch to Vertigo soon. So, yeah, but not much set in stone at the moment.

    the benefit of doing creator-owned stuff is that if an opportunity doesn't present itself, i can always manufacture my next gig.

    -T
    • CommentAuthorMidweeker
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2008
     (1012.19)
    It's a real shame, I think the book just wasn't straightforward enough (that's in no way a criticism, by the way)to survive. Most of the books that've been hitting well at Vertigo recently have been the simple concept stuff - Last man alive in a world of women; Fairytale characters live in the real world after being evicted from fairytale land; New York at War; Bad boy returns to the reservation, only now he's an undercover FBI agent.
    Exterminators, Crossing Midnight and to an extent Army@Love are hard sells, simply because they're difficult to sum up. For me it's been made a little easier in that Forbidden Planet have been selling all new Titan trades at pretty good prices, almost comparable with Amazon. Army@Love is only £4.99 and it's certainly easier to get people to try a book at that price.
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    @tonymoore

    All three paperbacks were fun reads. Waiting on more.