Whitechapel - Tottenham Rioting 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305060#Comment_305060 2011-08-06T21:45:36-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Ananzitusq http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3262 London whitechapelers, you all safe? Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305077#Comment_305077 2011-08-07T00:47:20-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Rootfireember http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1551 Not sure what's going on. This somehow missed my newsfeed and I googled... O,O from the Guardian; Sounds scary. O,O
from the Guardian;
Sounds scary.]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305078#Comment_305078 2011-08-07T00:51:50-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Scrymgeour http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4141 was working so safe... glad people don't accept that the police can kill people... not entirelysure they went about it the right way... but freedom is only bought by the blood of patriots etc.... ... Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305082#Comment_305082 2011-08-07T02:39:41-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Flabyo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1306 My understanding is that the chap who was shot by the police had already fired at them and wounded a police officer, the circumstaces are still a bit unknown though. A full on riot is a slight ...
A full on riot is a slight overreaction though...]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305086#Comment_305086 2011-08-07T04:04:53-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214 The police's story seems to contradict witnesses' versions of events. Which is why there's such strong feeling. Fuck knows what really happened though. Most built up areas in the UK are a giant ...
Most built up areas in the UK are a giant seething mess of resentment and tension at the moment, so the slightest thing is going to set it all off. This won't be the last riot this year, I'm thinking.]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305087#Comment_305087 2011-08-07T04:42:37-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214 A witness claims that the protest turned to rioting after police attacked a 16 year old girl who approached police lines in order to ask questions. She possibly got in their faces, rather than being ...

A witness claims that the protest turned to rioting after police attacked a 16 year old girl who approached police lines in order to ask questions. She possibly got in their faces, rather than being totally inoffensive, but fuuuuuck.]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305117#Comment_305117 2011-08-07T10:46:54-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Horrible Warning Si http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1223 It's the same area which witnessed riots - under similar circumstances - in the 80's. Speaking to my Tottenham mates, there's a sense that certain people have been waiting for an excuse for Round #2. ... Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305121#Comment_305121 2011-08-07T11:56:39-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 EvJ http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5957 easier to blame them for being deliberately obstructive in their investigation. Without for a moment apologising for those who rioted and looted, the disbelief was the police's own fault really. ... easier to blame them for being deliberately obstructive in their investigation.
Without for a moment apologising for those who rioted and looted, the disbelief was the police's own fault really. After a series of high-profile problems from de Menezes to Mark Kennedy to the Fortnum and Mason occupiers, even the phone hacking resignations, they've lost the moral authority to expect calm based solely on their word of honour that they acted appropriately in shooting this guy. Even I'm wondering why they had to jump him in a minicab instead of just knocking on his door (while armed and aware of his apparent danger, of course) and asking him politely to come down the station.

It's all well and good for most of the UK that losing trust in the police means they worry that Charlie Gilmour was the victim of grave injustice. But for some people, not trusting the police is much more personally pressing concern than for others. Those people need to be able to believe the word of the police top brass, and right now, I completely understand that they just can't.]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305122#Comment_305122 2011-08-07T12:08:16-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 JP Carpenter http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2485 The Guardian's now reporting that the initial assessment of the bullet found lodged in a police radio is that it was police issue. Which clearly isn't going to calm things down. Jesus, I'm glad I'm ... Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305132#Comment_305132 2011-08-07T13:45:56-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 icelandbob http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5250 I´m amazed it hasn't spread to other areas of London (although it did go as far as Wood Green) Man It's not a good time to be in North London right now. With so many conflicting reports and ...
Man It's not a good time to be in North London right now. With so many conflicting reports and polarized views it's almost impossible to really pin down the hows and whys of all this.

Example @oddcult, the guardian had a witness saying that the girl was throwing things at the police line, which then caused them to rush her en masse. But right now, i don't know which version to believe...]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305135#Comment_305135 2011-08-07T13:58:38-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Osmosis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=866 I'm a norf Landanah and this is pretty nearby. I was in a tent in a field in north Yorkshire when this was all kicking off, but thanks for the concern, Ananzitusq. At this point I don't have much ...
At this point I don't have much to add to the commentary already provided, as I'm just back in the Great Wen and trying to get up to speed myself.]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305136#Comment_305136 2011-08-07T14:06:55-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 icelandbob http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5250 Scrap my last post. It seems to spreading to Enfield right now. Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305138#Comment_305138 2011-08-07T14:18:48-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Ananzitusq http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3262 @Osmosis welcome. I've been trying to follow developments on Twitter but it's getting more and more chaotic as the hours pass. welcome.

I've been trying to follow developments on Twitter but it's getting more and more chaotic as the hours pass.]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305139#Comment_305139 2011-08-07T14:21:43-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 JP Carpenter http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2485 The rumours and potential for lethally inflammatory rumours to blow things up is scary, when the IPCC head has had to outright deny that the guy was 'assassinated with a series of headshots' - things ... Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305153#Comment_305153 2011-08-07T16:12:43-07:00 2011-08-07T16:14:22-07:00 Cat Vincent http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=447 And now it's jumped the river - Brixton riots reported. :Guardian live feed: Whatever the cause or provocation on either side, the problem now is it's gone memetic. I hate to say it, but I expect ... :Guardian live feed:

Whatever the cause or provocation on either side, the problem now is it's gone memetic. I hate to say it, but I expect similar in other areas, even other cities, soon - unless it (hopefully) dies off.
(Side bet - my local hotspot of Stoke's Croft will be along shortly.)]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305160#Comment_305160 2011-08-07T17:06:23-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214 Brixton's going up. Ah. Cat got there before me... Yeah, if Stoke's Croft gets an excuse it'll go. Same with Bradford and Luton.
Ah. Cat got there before me...

Yeah, if Stoke's Croft gets an excuse it'll go. Same with Bradford and Luton.]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305161#Comment_305161 2011-08-07T17:07:08-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214 Add Walthamstow and Hackney. Fuuu... Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305162#Comment_305162 2011-08-07T17:09:01-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214 Oh, and the Daily Fail is blaming 'Anarchists' for the riots. Like the ones that were locked up for the royal wedding, I suppose. Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305192#Comment_305192 2011-08-08T00:57:27-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Flabyo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1306 It does seem this second round of rioting is basically organised looting parites set up via twitter. Doesn't seem to be much political motivation beyond 'hey, smash windows and get free stuff' at the ... Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305195#Comment_305195 2011-08-08T02:04:36-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214 ^ - sometimes that's political. It happens for reasons that show a disengagement with politics and social policy failure, at any rate, and (with notable exceptions, sure) seems emblematic of a Tory ...
I'm not saying that makes it okay or excusable, but it's what follows when there's a perceived breakdown of the social contract or extreme action by the authorities.]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305197#Comment_305197 2011-08-08T02:37:05-07:00 2011-08-09T00:28:51-07:00 Yoav http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6196 [EDIT: Tottenham riots appear to have become London Riots, if not every-fucker-who-wants-to-burn-stuff-in-Britain Riots. Let's keep all comments in the Sticky Post above. --Si] It's very sad ...

It's very sad what happened. A month or so ago I made a film in Tottenham with some first time filmmakers. We went out and asked how the area could be improved. It's for the DocinaDay series of films for MyStreet - a project where you film, edit and post a documentary in one day. I facilitate and teach some of the groups.

The people of Haringey have very very clear ideas on how the area can be improved and what can be done to engage the youth. It is an area sorely ignored and under funded by government and has a terrible record of public service neglect (baby P...etc).

We had HOURS of footage but this is the final film the group decided on:

]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305206#Comment_305206 2011-08-08T04:15:51-07:00 2011-08-08T04:17:13-07:00 Paul Duffield http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6 My sister lives in Brixton! Luckily she's in the process of moving out and was away, but her bins were set on fire, and her flatmate reported seeing a lot of looters at work - mostly teenagers with ... Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305212#Comment_305212 2011-08-08T04:52:48-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Horrible Warning Si http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1223 Yoav - that's fascinating. I wonder if you (or your students (if that's the right term?)) have considered submitting this to various news channels? There's undoubtedly a hunger at the moment for the ... Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305222#Comment_305222 2011-08-08T06:49:20-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 TheEndsOfInvention http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8799 Don't we have the largest amount of CCTV cameras per citizen of any country in the world precisely for incidents like this? I mean, I bet the police have already seen the Duggan shooting video. It's ... Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305223#Comment_305223 2011-08-08T06:53:33-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 helloMuller http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=560 I'm a Tottenham boy, living quite close to where the action was on Saturday night. My wife and I were out all day, got back at Bruce Grove station between 9 and 10PM seeing loads of people on the ...
Yesterday during the day was very strange… wherever possible people would go round as normal but there was a very solemn atmosphere, and we couldn't really believe the carnage. Very sad.

Last night it was fairly quiet, save for the police helicopter who scanned the area at around 1AM. Really hope its not happening again tonight, but I'm afraid it will…]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305224#Comment_305224 2011-08-08T06:56:17-07:00 2011-08-08T06:57:55-07:00 helloMuller http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=560 Also, the reports on Saturday night about the alleged shoving of the 16 year old girl is rather suspect, as it came from a local who just happened to be pro-riot, but without any references or names ... And what happened has nothing to do anymore with protesting or wanting your voice heard. This is plain and simple scum destroying their own neighbourhood, although to be fair, I did laugh when I read they broke into the local McD's and started cooking.]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305227#Comment_305227 2011-08-08T07:14:46-07:00 2011-08-08T07:39:06-07:00 sneak046 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4574 RE the looters - this one seems quite proud of his haul (and will soon be hauled off himself I don't doubt) Like a lot of occassions what started as a legitimate attempt to ask serious ...


Like a lot of occassions what started as a legitimate attempt to ask serious questions about the Met's behaviour during ops (and don't get me started on the inherent racism of the Met's Operation Trident - 'black on black' crime is in my opinion a terrible slur - they are crimes pure and simple) was subverted by the moron mentality of a bunch of opportunistic twats. Particularly the copycats in Enfield etc.

A lot of what @Oddcult says abt the root causes are ringing true with me too - there are entire estates the country up and down (and I've lived in a few of them...) where there are no 'legit' jobs, and living from day-to-day and hand-to-mouth has become a way of life for millions
I wouldn't expect to see much in the way of action to change any of this tho - until the 'burbs are burning then the powers in charge have zero political reason to do anything - apart from the bad headlines. none of their voters are likely to have been in these areas.

This won't be the last riot this year, I'm thinking.


Especially if we have a three-or-four day heatwave before the end of the month - I can't remember the stats but I am sure that there is a well grounded theory that there are a greater number of riots during hot/sticky weather.

Something abt Cameron et al's response reminds me of this exchange:

"Sir, the oxygen level is bottoming out in Sector G. What do you want me to do about it?
Don't do anything.
But they won't last an hour, sir.
Fuck 'em. It'll be a good lesson to the others.
"]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305252#Comment_305252 2011-08-08T10:37:47-07:00 2011-08-08T10:39:21-07:00 DC http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4588 Reports of riots in Hackney on my country's radio news! The subway doesn't stop there and the riot police are there protecting businesses. From a friend's Facebook, Tesco surrounded by the ... The subway doesn't stop there and the riot police are there protecting businesses. From a friend's Facebook, Tesco surrounded by the police:


Were there any riots like this after the 80's?]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305263#Comment_305263 2011-08-08T12:08:14-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 JP Carpenter http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2485 Good live coverage Were there any riots like this after the 80's? We're in the action fucking replay of the eighties. Cameron's not been seen in public because he's metamorphosing into ... Good live coverage


Were there any riots like this after the 80's?


We're in the action fucking replay of the eighties. Cameron's not been seen in public because he's metamorphosing into Thatcher in a tank somewhere like an evil butterfly - about now the skin's coming off, the lips are puckering up and the hair's turning bouffant.

I'm finding the looting deeply nihilistic and depressing - protesting's one thing, this just seems nasty and cynical and materialistic. The idea that it's being coordinated via BBM as 'let's smash things and nick stuff' - what the hell happens to people to make them like that, why does doing this seem a good choice to make? Fucking awful.]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305266#Comment_305266 2011-08-08T12:32:08-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Will Ellwood http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2556 @J0nCarp3nter - The only reaction I can summon at the moment is to find this depressing. At the moment I don't see what is going to cause this to stop and I fear what will happen if serious or fatal ... Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305268#Comment_305268 2011-08-08T12:32:48-07:00 2011-08-08T12:35:40-07:00 sneak046 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4574 Oh dear - seems like it has gone viral: birminghamriots2011.tumblr.com
birminghamriots2011.tumblr.com]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305270#Comment_305270 2011-08-08T12:44:00-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Will Ellwood http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2556 There are rumours on Twitter of it spreading it Leicester as well. I don't like this.
I don't like this.]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305272#Comment_305272 2011-08-08T12:51:28-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Sobreiro http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3279 Explain Tottenham to this foreigner! I was catching up on the news and the fact that this begun because the police shot a drug dealer is absolutely insane to me. Was racial tension very high already ... Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305274#Comment_305274 2011-08-08T12:58:13-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 EvJ http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5957 @Sobriero, yes, there are long standing tensions in that area, and in much of North London. There were significant riots there twenty-odd years ago, that haven't been forgotten. There's a lot of gang ... Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305279#Comment_305279 2011-08-08T13:15:55-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214 The shooting if the dude in Tottenham was just a spark to the tinder of a whole fuckload of resentment that's been building up. Birmingham, Leeds, Croydon, Leicester... and counting. The police ...
Birmingham, Leeds, Croydon, Leicester... and counting.

The police are being seen as demoralised, overstretched and ineffective, so people are taking the chance to just fucking do something. Even if it's nicking things and burning shit.

Nick Clegg made a statement that he didn't think David Cameron is showing a lack of leadership. Without irony (because, you know, he's speaking for him as deputy in his absence...)

This is your fucking Big Society, you sausage faced cunt.

I'm fucking angry about this. Because the signs were there and you still have smug fucking Fotherington-Osborne claiming he's been all vindicated by events in Greece and Italy whilst missing what's under his cunty nose.

Come the fuck on, people, back to Tory Party HQ and Fortnum and Mason's, not your own bloody neighbourhoods.]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305288#Comment_305288 2011-08-08T13:54:34-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 roadscum http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7712 However it all started, this now seems to be a large scale version of kicking in the local bus stop on a Saturday night and drawing a nob on the side. I've been out at work all day and got back to ...
I've been out at work all day and got back to Barking tonight to find the town centre sealed off and three fire engines parked up at the end of my road, just waiting. There are blue lights and sirens all over the place and the railway/tube station is shut. My nextdoor neighbour told me the corner shop at the end of my road got eyed up by a gang of kids but the police arrived before anything started and they all scarpered. The petrol station just down the road wasn't so lucky and got smashed up. Shifty looking youths are prowling about in smallish groups, had a bunch hanging about on my corner a while ago but they seem to have disappeared now. Still a bit worried about the corner shop though.

I'm half inclined to grab my little camera and go for a wander to see what's happening. The other half of me is shouting 'Don't be so fucking stupid!' All things considered i think that's the half i'm going to listen to. Anyway there's work at 5am tomorrow, i should be in bed.

Good luck Whitechapel, looks like the next few days are going to be interesting.]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305303#Comment_305303 2011-08-08T14:41:59-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 DC http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4588 @J0nCarp3nter-Herd mentality, that's the only thing I can think that explains all this. And once again I confirm my suspicions that Tory are spawns of evil that Constantine should take care of and ... Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305305#Comment_305305 2011-08-08T14:46:27-07:00 2011-08-08T14:47:18-07:00 Soviet Rocket No. 9 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8855 @sneak046. Especially if we have a three-or-four day heatwave before the end of the month - I can't remember the stats but I am sure that there is a well grounded theory that there are a greater ... Especially if we have a three-or-four day heatwave before the end of the month - I can't remember the stats but I am sure that there is a well grounded theory that there are a greater number of riots during hot/sticky weather

Being a former criminal studies/legal studies student, yes, you are a correct. Crimes (especially in this case, property and violent crime) are especially high during the summer, than in the winter.

Forgive me for being an arrogant 'merican, but could this be similar to the Rodney King riots? Police showing unjustified force, officer in question getting off, the community pissed that nothing gets done, then BURNING THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS (I don't get that last part, in LA the place where they rioted was pretty much a black neighborhood, where they could have gone two blocks down and burned the rich white neighborhood). There's definitely more than I don't get, so please educate me.

Safe safe Whitechapel, keep in touch.

Nate]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305310#Comment_305310 2011-08-08T15:20:38-07:00 2011-08-08T15:21:11-07:00 Birds_Use_Stars http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6144 @King Happybomb When you live in a ghetto environment, your own neighborhood is one of the biggest symbols of societal oppression. In other words, it's only YOUR neighborhood in that it's the place ... Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305318#Comment_305318 2011-08-08T15:44:36-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Soviet Rocket No. 9 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8855 @Birds_Use_Stars. Thank you. That explains a lot more. Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305321#Comment_305321 2011-08-08T15:52:01-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 DistractDelude http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8765 @King Happybomb An argument could have been made yesterday that these were purely down to how the Duggan shooting happened/was (not) handled etc, etc. But now we're just looking at the mindless ...
Hope everyone's ok, Clapham and Ealing are going up now and I have no idea if Croydon's been contained yet, need to text some people. Stay safe.]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305323#Comment_305323 2011-08-08T16:02:24-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 StefanJ http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=961 Can't we all just get along? (/historical reference)
(/historical reference)]]> Tottenham Rioting http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10124&Focus=305382#Comment_305382 2011-08-09T00:32:58-07:00 2013-05-22T17:40:58-07:00 Horrible Warning Si http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1223 Closed in order to keep everything in the same place. "London Riots", up above.