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    All UK news media is making a big point of the news that pretty much all weekend football fixtures re going ahead (a Spurs match is postponed).

    Because if there's any single activity in England guaranteed to prevent riots, it's footie.
    • CommentAuthorEvJ
    • CommentTimeAug 11th 2011
    Footie might not have the best track record of itself, but there's nothing like a big fuck-off sports festival to distract people from bricking windows. Or anything they're up to really. First weekend of the season, everyone wants to see the form, and find out how all the transfers are settling in. This could be as good as a decent shower of rain.
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    EvJ: Well, let's hope so. (Mild bias from living in Edinburgh 5 minutes from the Hibs ground... never a quiet weekend when playing at home!)
    • CommentTimeAug 11th 2011 edited
    Soundtrack to what's going on?

    • CommentTimeAug 11th 2011
    So David Cameron wants to LIMIT social networks? Many French "Republicans" MPs have suggested that too, out of ignorance. Tunisian and Egyptian tyrans, and Chinese bureaucrats, everywhere they seem to think it's an option, and a solution. As if.
    • CommentAuthorEvJ
    • CommentTimeAug 11th 2011
    @Cat, Lived in Reekie for years, but never very close to the Hibs or Hearts grounds, thankfully. But gimme twenty thousand sectarian Scotsmen over this debacle any day.
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    My friend's sister and her husband live in Brent. The company he worked for closed shop, and told them to come back when they called them. He says they're safe, I say pack some bags just in case. It all reminds me of the lootings in South Florida, that occurred back in the nineties after Hurricane Andrew.

    Without boring you all, here's a synposis.

    Hopefully this will be the start of Cameron's downfall, or just be remembered as a blooper like Katrina with Bush.

    I don't how it will end, I just want the city that gave me so many good things back.
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    I like to think this would be David Cameron's downfall too, but my fear is that this will seperate the classes even more and cause more resentment between them in the long run. All this talk of eviction and stopping benefits for rioters and their families is ridiculous. Punish them as criminal law dicates, but lets not get crazy. Do we think Cameron is getting more or less support than usual? I'm not sure, but I think the former.

    Gah. What a mess.
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2011
    Well, this editorial has been getting a bit of play. I never thought I'd be citing the Torygraph, but there you are.

    By the way, I recommend "King Mob," Christopher Hibbert's 1956 study of the Gordon Riots of 2-8 June 1780. Similar dynamic to the latest ones: Large population whose lives and welfare have little to do with official affairs, ostensible grievances quickly becoming irrelevant, participation of different classes, official paralysis during the riots and blather afterwards.
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2011 edited
    @ Andre Navarro: really enjoyed that open letter to Sausage-face Cameron, thanks.

    I live less than a mile from where the Salford idiots were kicking-off but, beyond watching it on the news, the closest it came was hearing the police helicopter buzzing overhead for most of the night and the occasional siren. I did notice a few groups of yoofs gathered in a few places on my way into Manchester on Wednesday, but that's more likely due to the schools being on their summer hols than Riot Planning 101.

    Passing through Manchester city centre the next day, though, was a different matter. Very quiet, both in regard to the number of people and the volume of noise; the latter felt more like walking through in the middle of the night. Litter & debris all over the place, a few store-fronts and windows boarded-up, faint whiff of smoke everywhere and enough cleaning crews to populate a small nation.

    Once all the damage has been repaired, and the media have found a new itch to obsessively scratch, it'll be like this never happened for most people, sadly. Leaving the government free to introduce whatever knee-jerk policies they like, addressing the symptoms whilst wilfully oblivious to everything underlying what might've caused/made these things happen. I honestly don't think this will be "Cameron's Defining Moment" or lead to his downfall either - regardless of what I might think of him as a man or politician, the country doesn't seem to have the collective attention span these days for anything to build-up into something remotely "mythological", deserved or not.
    • CommentAuthorroadscum
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2011

    All this conveniently gives the powers that be an excuse to bring in some nice new public order legislation before the Great North Atlantic Economic Collapse hits and the real riots start - the food and fuel riots when the supermarket shelves are empty and petrol is an hundred quid a ltre - that won't just be a bunch of dodgy kids doing a bit of aggravated shopping.
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2011 edited
    I'd have to call Hanlon's Razor on that I'm afraid.

    There's no way our government is clever enough to engineer that.
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    @Flabyo: I'm glad to hear someone else saying that, my Facebook feed's been full of people saying "Problem-Reaction-Solution" and posting pictures of David Icke for days. Apparently every twist and turn of fate is another clever piece of engineering by the NWO, and yet they're no closer to world domination than they were in the 70s?
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    It's not that they engineered this, it's that they are going to take advantage of the situation to put through some very dodgy laws. As soon as I read
    "Everyone watching these horrific actions will be struck by how they were organized via social media. Free flow of information can be used for good. But it can also be used for ill. And when people are using social media for violence we need to stop them. So we are working with the police, the intelligence services and industry to look at whether it would be right to stop people communicating via these Web sites and services when we know they are plotting violence, disorder and criminality.”
    - David Cameron, I thought, well that's the internet fucked then.
    • CommentAuthorWanika
    • CommentTimeAug 14th 2011
    We appreciate that Social media also taking an active role in the restoration attempts as hundreds of volunteers rally to literally clean up the streets. Related article I read: Londoners gather for riot cleanup effort .Open communication for a good cause.

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