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Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=305833#Comment_3058332011-08-11T15:52:32-07:002011-08-11T15:54:39-07:00Alan Tysonhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1299
Some of you know about this already, but I figure it can't hurt to throw it up on the 'chapel and see if I get any bites.
So, I've gone a bit mad, and decided to re-write the Star Wars prequels. ...
So, I've gone a bit mad, and decided to re-write the Star Wars prequels. Obviously this isn't going to amount to much of anything, but it IS turning out to be an incredibly fun exercise, not too terribly unlike Remake/Remodel.
What I'm doing is, rather than starting from scratch and pretending the prequels don't exist at all, is treating the films like the first draft of a script, which I've been given the task of re-writing, polishing, strengthening, etc. I'm writing it in a treatment format to begin with, to be followed by a series of full-film-script drafts. I'm sticking fairly close to the major plot elements, and I'm keeping most of the same characters (yes, including Jar-Jar - I'm convinced I can make him funny without being annoying). I'm even using some of the same dialogue, though I might switch when it's said, or who says it.
The reason I'm showing this to you guys is this: I want to avoid what seems to the commonly-accepted root cause for why people didn't like Episodes I-III, which is that there wasn't enough idea-cross-pollination, and that the ideas didn't have enough time to really develop and mature. I want feedback, and I want people to suggest alternatives, or improvements. Most of all, I want people to tell me if something just plain old sucks.
And, maybe some day down the line, I might start looking for concept artists and storyboarders. I mean, there's no way this thing will ever be filmed, for a huge number of reasons, but why stop with just a script? Why not go full pre-production, with the best creative thinkers and craftsfolk the internet has to offer? If nothing else, this might result in some of us having some cool pieces of portfolio work!
Anyway, I've posted about 20-25 minutes worth of the first movie, and I'd love to know what you guys think of it so far. Again, this is just me having fun, but I'd like to know if fun equals good, while I'm at it.
Thanks for reading, -Alan]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=305846#Comment_3058462011-08-11T18:19:24-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00Corey Waitshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=453
An acquaintance of mine outlined something similar on his blog - http://www.gaijin.com/2011/01/if-i-had-written-the-star-wars-prequels/
Personally I think his version would have been so much ...
Personally I think his version would have been so much better than what Lucas trotted out.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=305859#Comment_3058592011-08-11T19:45:22-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00SteadyUPhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5302
It's an interesting exercise, I'll admit, but in fairness - this has been done many, many times.
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=305869#Comment_3058692011-08-11T21:35:18-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00Alan Tysonhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1299
Oh, I'm certain it has. I'm not doing anything original here (I mean, obviously). It's much more of a thought experiment than trying to prove a point one way or another - I'm just playing in Lucas' ...
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=305874#Comment_3058742011-08-11T23:11:24-07:002011-08-11T23:12:06-07:00oddbillhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4272
I totally understand the desire to do this, and I weigh in as someone who grew up with this story (I saw the original Star Wars when it was first released when I was 7, and a great deal of the ...
I say this with love. Don't squander your imagination in the sandbox Lucas took a shit in. You know how to nail planks together, and there is plenty of clean sand in the world. Take your frustration with the mess Lucas made and use it to make your own sandbox.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=305880#Comment_3058802011-08-12T00:19:37-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00celanhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5337
If anyone commenting here hasn't watched the Phantom Editor's Star Wars Episode II.I: Attack of the Phantom, I highly recommend it. Particularly for the commentary track:
the DVD contains a ...
Star Wars Episode II.I: Attack of the Phantom, I highly recommend it. Particularly for the commentary track:
the DVD contains a re-edited version (38 minutes cut, new runtime of 104 minutes) of Episode II in surround sound, with a commentary track. At points during the commentary, the viewer has the option to interrupt the movie to view in more detail some of the things that the editor is talking about.
Anyway, I found it to be a great concrete lesson in how creative choices can serve (or profoundly derail) story-telling.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=305881#Comment_3058812011-08-12T00:30:37-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00Alan Tysonhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1299
@oddbill: You're not wrong, and I've promised myself that I'll quit doing this the second it stops being fun. And really, at the end of the day, that's the only reason I'm doing it, thought ...
Something that's nice about doing this is that it's something that I can share with people before it's done - I've got a few comic scripts and something that wants to be an illustrated novel all sitting on my hard drive, which I really can't let see the light of day until I've finished at least first drafts. Something like this, though, I can show to anyone, and my enthusiasm for it, and confidence in it, doesn't wane. So, I guess part of playing in George's sandbox is that I don't have to worry about messing up my own.
Defenses aside, I completely understand the bad taste this likely gives you, and a lot of other fans, and I'm not offended in the least if you don't take a lot of interest in it.
@celan: I hadn't heard of this before, but I'll set right to work tracking it down!]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=305882#Comment_3058822011-08-12T00:40:34-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00celanhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5337
@Alan
You should be able to find it in the "usual" places.
You should be able to find it in the "usual" places.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=305887#Comment_3058872011-08-12T01:21:46-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00oddbillhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4272
@Alan Tyson - I want to be clear that you rethinking the prequels does not give me a bad taste. I don't feel you are trespassing. I think you are wasting your brainpower on a property that is not ...
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=305889#Comment_3058892011-08-12T02:31:18-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00Beamishhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8236
I agree with Bill but appreciate Alan's thought process it can be a good exercise, Matt Fraction did something similar with Batman: Year One to learn how to write comic scripts.
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=305893#Comment_3058932011-08-12T02:53:26-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00oddbillhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4272
Once upon a time I got pissed off at Star Trek. I thought the concept of the Prime Directive was nonsensical. How could you possibly not affect the trajectory of another life by existing in the same ...
not affect the trajectory of another life by existing in the same universe as it exists? So I wrote a teleplay of a nonexistent Trek franchise called "Star Trek: Enforcer" - about the crew of what I was calling an "Enforcer" class ship, who's mission was to make sure other exploratory missions did not break the various Federation rules, primarily the Prime Directive. I meant it to become an indictment of the concept. To push it, I called the ship the Crazy Horse, after the Native American war leader whose job, when young, was to keep other young angry boys in the tribes from ruining ambushes by charging out to count coup before the actual battle plan could be maturely enacted. History will tell you he did not have much success in this sane and measured effort. No matter how much one stands to benefit from regulating passion, we are passionate monkeys and adrenaline always wins. To emphasize this point I made my captain a half-Vulcan, half-human hybrid, like Spock, but with the balance swung the other way, toward the human side. She was overly emotional. She had to fight her nature to adhere to logic. It showed up in everything she did, right down to the Vulcan nerve pinch, which she couldn't quite manage. Every time she did it, it caused the recipient an incredible amount of physical pain, but never rendered them unconscious.
By the time I had finished it I had ended up with half a dozen characters I loved, in a setting I loved, which I could not do anything more with, as I did not own the property. The story had been so carefully constructed in that world that it could not be extracted without losing the whole point. In the end I took those characters and built a completely different world around them, and tried to create a new story, but got lost in all the details of the extraction to the point that I really feel like I wasted some years of effort.
I encourage you not to do this, but rather to take the energy generated by your conflict with the course the Star Wars prequels followed and channel that into the creation of something new and wholly your own. The world doesn't need any more contrarian Star Wars fans. The world does need new good science fiction and mythology.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=305895#Comment_3058952011-08-12T03:08:19-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00Beamishhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8236
A friend and I created Star Trek: Omega, luckily be are both lazy and never got very far.
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=305901#Comment_3059012011-08-12T04:22:20-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00Finaglehttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5254
I've often thought of writing the endings for cancelled sci-fi TV series that had Big Mysteries which were Never Revaled.
/Earth-2/ is a favorite of mine to speculate about.
Personally, I wish ...
/Earth-2/ is a favorite of mine to speculate about.
Personally, I wish this sort of thing were more formally allowed. These properties are like abandoned buildings on a city block, and if someone can squat in them and make use of it, I'm all for it.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=305903#Comment_3059032011-08-12T04:29:30-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00D.J.http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3196
@Finagle - If it were more readily allowed, studios would be getting crazy fan scripts non-stop. Although, I guess that probably already happens, to an extent. And I guess most of those people ...
Hmm.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=305921#Comment_3059212011-08-12T05:53:22-07:002011-08-12T06:03:50-07:00Jason A. Questhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5192
I respect this as a creative exercise. I am doing something similar with another follow-up work of literature that I don't think the author(s) got quite right: the sequel to the Old Testament. ...
@Finagle: It's becoming common practice these days for the producers of cancelled TV series to officially continue them, either in comics or novels. Andy Mangels (the longtime "Gays in Comics" panel guy) has done this with novels for both Roswell and Star Trek: Enterprise.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306111#Comment_3061112011-08-13T15:46:24-07:002011-08-13T15:47:36-07:00256http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4827
I've got no skin in the game because I don't like Star Wars, but I agree with @oddbill. Dumping creative effort into someone else's property for free is, at best, a no-win situation.
That said, ...
That said, sometimes being creative means indulging impulses that aren't logical or even "a good idea" in the classical sense.
Also, @oddbill - now you come to mention it, it is pretty wacky that the Federation has laws but no apparent enforcement mechanism. Would sort of love to read the ST:E saga.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306146#Comment_3061462011-08-13T22:44:43-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00johnjoneshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1052
@ Alan Tyson
Similar to Oddbill, at one point in 2001 I got irritated with JK Rowling's Harry Potter series. It was getting on my nerves that all the Muggle characters were helpless, incompetent, ...
Similar to Oddbill, at one point in 2001 I got irritated with JK Rowling's Harry Potter series. It was getting on my nerves that all the Muggle characters were helpless, incompetent, petty or all three at once. So, I wrote a "Most Dangerous Game" pastiche featuring a mortal who is hunted by Death-eaters. The mortal kills or otherwise overcomes his opponents and then the twist comes in - the "game" was actually a kind of audition/test set up by Voldemort. By passing the test, the mortal will now begin his real mission - to find and assassinate Harry Potter.
I still like the story and got as far as three chapters in before the realization struck me that I was writing Harry Potter Fan Fiction. So, I stopped as sanity reclaimed me.
Alan, you are writing Star Wars fan fiction. There is a line in the Bible that goes something like "It is better to spill your seed in the belly of a whore than on the ground." It's a prohibition against masturbation. Fan fiction is essentially masturbation and it is better to write the crappiest, most whorish original idea, than to spill your writing seed in fan fiction.
I understand the temptation to do it. You get a built-in audience who will at least be inclined to give your stuff a chance simply because it features characters and a world that they enjoy. Hell, I recall doing a Buffy the Vampire Slayer novelette that crossed her into White Wolf's World of Darkness setting for much the same reason - I had a story to tell and wanted some readers.
The problem is that whatever you write will ultimately be sterile and stillborn. It can't ever be truly yours. Make something that's truly yours.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306171#Comment_3061712011-08-14T05:55:05-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00Mathias Bhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2162
Well, just as masturbation and sex isn't an either/or proposition, neither is fanfic and creating original works. It's quite possible to do both. Does the world need more Star Wars fan fiction? Does ...
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306177#Comment_3061772011-08-14T07:22:31-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00John Skylarhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8976
Alan, I just finished reading this.
I really like how it flows--though it's not really in a format I'd call a screenplay--and I think it's a compelling story so far, with nods to the original Star ...
I really like how it flows--though it's not really in a format I'd call a screenplay--and I think it's a compelling story so far, with nods to the original Star Wars movies that should have been there in this one.
I like that you've moved Darth Maul to a prominent, meaningful position. I like that you've made Jar Jar appear to be more of a loose gun. I think it's great that you've made the Trade Federation appear so callous, even toward its own members.
But there are a couple of things I don't like. Your head honcho for the Trade Federation seems a bit odd to me, like a character who happened to wander in from another story and is VERY indignant that she's been forced to be in a Star Wars plot. I think she's too strong a character for someone who's being manipulated by the Sith. Scenes also seem to cut away to her far more frequently than is warranted. Since Star Wars movies almost always use screenwipes for scene changes this is confusing as hell to visualize.
Minor thing, also, is that all Star Wars films begin in space. I see the appeal of opening on Tatooine, but there's something to the serial bluster of opening to a space scene.
All in all, though, this is a lot more enjoyable than the thing George Lucas wrote. But then again, he didn't have Harrison Ford rewriting all the dialogue this time, so maybe he deserves a break. Hah.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306178#Comment_3061782011-08-14T07:36:21-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00BrianMowreyhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1709
Re-writing a story is not the same as writing a new story in a copywrited universe, it probably doesn't have as much danger on the alternate-reality-creative-idea-abortion-metaphors front.
Also, ...
Also, if you find you have accidentally locked up good ideas in a dead-end world, it's not going to stop you from having lots of new good ideas when you move on to a clean system. Good ideas aren't finite. You just need to be willing to push through the next mountain of crap you will write in laying the groundwork for a fertile new... Uh, what metaphor am I on? Placenta?]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306180#Comment_3061802011-08-14T07:52:36-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00Alan Tysonhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1299
John,
I'm starting out with a plot treatment, which will eventually be turned into a full screenplay - I'm still learning the technical terminology for writing such a thing, and this way I can ...
I'm starting out with a plot treatment, which will eventually be turned into a full screenplay - I'm still learning the technical terminology for writing such a thing, and this way I can work out a basic plot and get some feedback on it before I get into the nitty-gritty stuff like camera angles and dialogue beats.
The tricky part with Ursana is that she's one of the few characters I'm not simply re-purposing from the original films, so she's definitely going to seem a little out of place. I thought that the Trade Federation needed someone like Grand Moff Tarkin, someone who could be a political schemer and a military tyrant, who's fatal flaw was arrogance. However, in order to make her as unique from Tarkin as I could (she's fat where Tarkin is skeletal, she's a shark where he's a snake), I maybe ended up maybe taking her too far. Definitely something to consider, and thank you for pointing it out.
Though I do want to make the point that the Feds aren't being directly manipulated as they were in the original films - Palpatine knew that, by attacking them legally, he'd eventually push them too far and instigate just the kind of brushfire he'd need to get the chancellorship. This is something that will become a little more apparent in the Coruscant scenes. Darth Maul is just his insurance that the plans will go off without a hitch - the Feds know Darth Maul has a master, but they've never spoken with him directly.
Every Star Wars movie DOES start in space, but I really needed to get Anakin in there early. It's almost half an hour into the original movie before we see the character around whom the entire saga revolves, and that just doesn't sit well with me. Hmm. I'll play with it somewhat in the script/second treatment.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306245#Comment_3062452011-08-14T22:02:29-07:002011-08-14T22:03:09-07:00John Skylarhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8976
I expect you'll find the balance with Ursana over time. Maybe it's the fact that she's ruthless and large and her name sounds like "Ursula" that's making me feel she belongs in another ...
I like that angle on the Trade Federation.
Have you considered opening with Anakin having a force-farseeing dream about a future space battle, say, at the end of the film? It would allow your existing scene to stitch in perfectly and I think would be a cool device.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306272#Comment_3062722011-08-15T09:47:57-07:002011-08-15T09:50:52-07:00BOODOFFSTAGEhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=914
Actually, one Idea i've always considered is to write my "version" of what I wished Phantom Menace should have been. Just use completely different characters. My take would be a Star Wars ...
Lets just say to this day, Lucas never properly portrayed just how bad ass a Jedi can be. Strazinki's Clone Wars cartoons were much more effective in this than Lucas ever was.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306279#Comment_3062792011-08-15T10:51:07-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00Alan Tysonhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1299
@John Skylar: That's... that's actually not a bad idea. Let me play around with that, and I'll let you know when I put it up, so I can get your take on it!
@BOODOFFSTAGE: Regarding the Asian film ...
@BOODOFFSTAGE: Regarding the Asian film influence on Star Wars, Lucas originally wanted to get Toshiro Mifune to play Obi-Wan Kenobi. Like a lot of the research and development I've been doing for this project, that just hit me full in the face with "what might have been" possibilities.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306371#Comment_3063712011-08-16T02:28:12-07:002011-08-16T02:29:09-07:00apefisthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6596
Not to digress from the original post--I like what you've done and lament you weren't there back when you were needed most--1975. The Phantom Edit to me was more hype than it was much different from ...
I've always wanted to do an adult STAR WARS for the generation of us 30-40 somethings who saw it as kids but grew up to like bloodier action, nudity, more sadistic villains, less perfect heroes,non-humanoid aliens and overly excessive cussing. Not porn, and we don't even need sex scenes, per se. But when Han shoots first, he shoots 4 or 5 more times to make sure Greedo is a cooked dead iguana. When Leia falls into the trash compactor, that sheer white dress becomes little more than a wet t-shirt. Obi-wan drinks like a fish, and is mostly unintelligible when he mutters and cusses. Luke is gay. And R2 & C-3P0 have been through so much they malfunction regularly, causing accidental deaths periodically. Every time Vader uses the force, it's like he's getting off. Tarkin is like Caligula, with corpses and battered nude women strewn all over the bridge of the death star. He touches himself "there" every time they destroy a planet. And etc, etc. Think of how fucked up you could make Jabba's Palace and the cantina.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306378#Comment_3063782011-08-16T03:07:54-07:002012-01-28T08:37:52-08:00fleckyhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8949
@Johnjones ...
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306442#Comment_3064422011-08-16T14:47:51-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00imaginarypeoplehttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7661
i think this is a good exercise, but if it ends up being really good you could change key aspects and names to make it your own story if you wanted.
@oddbill - i think you should do this with your ...
@oddbill - i think you should do this with your star trek : enforcer script. sounds like it has alot of good ideas and i would read it and i am not even a star trek fan
@finagle - i also thought about coming up with endings to canceled tv shows. i was gonna make short comics with this concept but never got around to it because i am not a very good writer/ scripter. i did come up with a pretty good idea for the original v series that i may do in the future.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306484#Comment_3064842011-08-16T23:15:32-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00Alan Tysonhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1299
@apefist: You seem like a man who would enjoy the comics of Alejandro Jodorowsky.
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306512#Comment_3065122011-08-17T07:49:14-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00johnjoneshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1052
@ flecky
Full confession, I didn't originally research it but borrowed it from a Ron White comedy bit.
Full confession, I didn't originally research it but borrowed it from a Ron White comedy bit.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306652#Comment_3066522011-08-18T12:29:58-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00sellmeyoursoulhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=9518
Alan, on a bit of a technical level, it's generally considered bad form to put camera angles into your screen play if you aren't the director, or that specific shot is absolutely required. Remember, ...
absolutely required. Remember, in Hollywood, you're the word-monkey. The director is the auteur with the vision and the actors are called the talent. What's next, you'll be horrified when the director rewrites the thing as a rom-com on the fly? (What, me, a bit jaded? NEVER!)
Otherwise, I agree this exercise is essentially masturbation, but hey that can be fun some times. Generally, I try not to do mine in public, but since Lucas already did three shitty fan-fic films in the Star Wars universe why not you, right?]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306794#Comment_3067942011-08-19T09:25:34-07:002011-08-19T09:26:02-07:00BOODOFFSTAGEhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=914
Probably everybody here already knows about this guy but just in case.
If you want the quintessential reasons of why the prequel star wars were so bad.
Noone has been more eloquent, detailed ...
If you want the quintessential reasons of why the prequel star wars were so bad. Noone has been more eloquent, detailed (and funny) than Mr. Plinkett, on the subject
http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=306836#Comment_3068362011-08-19T14:52:46-07:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00John Skylarhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8976
Otherwise, I agree this exercise is essentially masturbation, but hey that can be fun some times. Generally, I try not to do mine in public, but since Lucas already did three shitty fan-fic films in ...
Otherwise, I agree this exercise is essentially masturbation, but hey that can be fun some times. Generally, I try not to do mine in public, but since Lucas already did three shitty fan-fic films in the Star Wars universe why not you, right?
It's funny, because my college friends and I had a habit of saying the 'prequels' were about as meaningful as Lucas wanking it for two hours on film while singing "HAHA THIS IS CANON" to a conga tune.]]>
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=322695#Comment_3226952012-01-27T11:03:52-08:002013-06-19T06:40:54-07:00apefisthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6596
Anchorbeard, i shall check him out. Thanks.
Star Wars: Second Drafthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10142&Focus=323061#Comment_3230612012-01-31T17:20:03-08:002012-02-18T10:18:07-08:00fleckyhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8949
I recall a brilliant documentary i saw when The Phantom Menace came out.Basically it was about a early screening of it in America and how tons of avid fans had traveled far and wide to come and see ...
You could feel the atmosphere and expectation in the air as people were interviewed before the screening.It was as if Christians had gathered for the second coming.I think one guy,in his twenties,had given up everything and traveled a hideous distance for it.As they were finally admitted to the cinema there was a lot of shouting and exclamations of joy.
When everyone exited was when the tone of the documentary changed;people came out with what i perceived to be false smiles.When asked what they thought of the movie some said it was good,great etc but they couldn't seem to escape the lens of the documentary makers camera quickly enough.
Anyway,i will never forget that one particular guy-the lad Star Wars meant the world to.When everyone had gone he was sitting on the ground with this vacant expression on his face.When asked about the film he just seemed to stare through the camera and said "I don't know what's going on.I don't understand...i...i...i don't know what that was about."Poor lad.I really felt for him.
Maybe this documentary took place in my head.It's a while back now.Regardless of what i thought about The Phantom Menace lot's of people i know say they love it.I just think that even if it had been the best film ever made it still wouldn't have really satisfied the need in that lads mind.Star Wars mania had turned into something that had gone beyond the original movies.
Does anyone else recall this documentary? I guess were all entitled to a opinion.I saw Star Wars(i dislike saying pt 4)when it first came out in the '70's and it was a magical experience. I saw The Phantom Menace when it hit the cinemas on a pirate DVD.It made me have a bad day and i'm no-longer friends with the guy who insisted we watch it and who kept on going on about how brilliant it was.
I hope you don't mind me sharing this. Oh.and by the way,i fooking hate ewoks.]]>