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      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008 edited
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    So I'm almost through a bottle of wine, and my insomnia (which hasn't been bothering me for the past few months up until last week when it kicked in again) flared up worse than before.
    My response? - I threw on Fight Club.

    Now... I'm one of the few people I know who prefers the book, but I still think the movie is a masterpiece. Blah Blah Blah technical cinematography it's an amazing done movie. Honestly, yes it's great for a cornucopia of reasons, but the main reason I love the movie is because I relate to Jack/The Narrator/Whoever he is.

    I'm just wondering who else has insomnia, and - if so, wonders if their subconscious splits off and creates an alter-ego like Tyler Durden who lives life they way you wish you could.

    I tend to think I already live life the way I wish I could, but I know thats a lie. There's a lot I would change if I... would. We'll see if I get the balls to do it one day, but until then - I speculate.

    So, my final question - if you had a Tyler Durden, what would he be like?

    Mine would drop out of school and travel the world working for his next meal and ticket to the next country. He'd probably have a lot more sex too. Anyway... Anyone else?
    • CommentAuthorsacredchao
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
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    My Tyler isn't lazy. My Tyler applied to more then two graduate schools (Basically, I'm fucked - I got rejection letter # 1 yesterday. It's really kicked my ass). My Tyler watches less porn. My Tyler read Fennigan's Wake, instead of just sitting it on the shelf for two years. My Tyler actually writes. My Tyler didn't drop the creative writing class because he got depressed because UC Berkeley doesn't like him.

    My Tyler is basically me, but awesome, and in less need of psychotherapy and prozac.

    Chuck Palahniuk is actually my favorite writer. I've read Fight Club, I think, 4 times. I also have copies in both Russian and Japanese. The Russian copy is signed, and is the only signed Russian copy in existence. That is awesome, I think.
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      CommentAuthorAdam
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
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    My Tyler would be a hell of a lot less polite, even to people who aren't impolite to me first. Picking fights EVERYWHERE, EVERYONE... The bloke at the convenience store, the pastor at the local church, the triage nurse in the ER... Man, he'd just bean kids in the head in passing, without them even looking at me first. That'd be pretty damn awesome. To watch anyway...
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      CommentAuthorChrisSick
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
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    Yeah, my Tyler would do a lot more fighting. I was in the bar tonight, it was one where on my birthday for various (good) reasons I almost got into a fight with the bouncer and he asked me to be good tonight. My Tyler would never be polite. And he would never pretend that Chuck Palaniuk was edgy or brilliant, he'd be willing to admit in mixed company that Fight Club was a great novel that sort of mined the idea as much as it could be mined. My Tyler would work out at least twice as often as I do and write seventeen times more often. My Tyler would re-stitch all his clothes and cover them in paint like the Clash. My Tyler would probably kill your Tyler just for kicks. My Tyler can do an underhanded knife throw at least as good as my overhanded.

    Oddly, sometimes at night, usually when I'm finally exhausted enough to sleep, I find my brians pinning off in all directions, thinking about the things I want to do that I never get around to, and all the stories I want to write but never seem to find the time for. It's like talking to my Tyler every night before I go to bed.
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    I love the phrase "My Tyler".

    My Tyler would probably be in a constant violent rage and wouldn't sit around waiting, he'd go out and forcefully get things done.
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      CommentAuthorAdam
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
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    Heheheheheh. "Dude, MY Tyler would kick your Tyler's ass". Just calling it before it gets said later.
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      CommentAuthorVespers
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
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    All your Tylers appear to be rather similar to Fight Club's Tyler.

    It's a pretty damn accurate movie (/book/thing. I haven't read the bloody book yet I've only seen the movie. Please don't kill me, I just can't afford to buy books much and my library hates me.)

    My Tyler would draw and write every day. And get a job. And find a way to get that girl back. And go to the gym more often (damn, it'd be WORTH having a Tyler if he'd go to the gym for me while I slept.)

    Also, he'd probably stand and fight when he gets jumped. Is not wanting to get in jail for knifing some shit who jumps you a good enough reason to run instead of standing when jumped by losers? I am still not sure.
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      CommentAuthorxutraa
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
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    My Tyler would say all the shit that I don't, would not care and would probably drink less. Or more. I forget how it works with the me vs Tyler thing.
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    I go through periods of savage insomnia, usually when my mental health problems flare up. At times like that everything gets a little unreal and peculiar and I find myself entering the arena of the unwell. There's nothing quite like that strange hinterland when you haven't slept for what feels like weeks and the street lamps are out to get you.

    So my Tyler works in an office, earning huge bundles of cash for doing strange and terrible things with numbers. My Tyler has a boyfriend he can take home to meet the parents. My Tyler doesn't have scars on his face. He has his own house with a security system that's so hardcore it won't even let bad smells in. My Tyler isn't ginger. My Tyler looks completely normal from the outside.

    He's not completely different from me though. He has that collection of antique straight razors I've always wanted. He has a copy of every zombie movie ever made. He has an awesome library of William Burroughs rarities and a truly vast music collection. He writes continually and has enough money to get his work printed and bound in vanity editions which he gives to his close friends and keeps on his shelf as a personal record.

    For me Tyler represents someone who doesn't get freaked out by the real world and knows how to make it his bitch, someone who can do all the boring and mundane shit that reliably drives me to drooling insanity and exciting day trips to A&E. That sounds pathetic and self-pitying which it's not intended to be - I get on okay with life these days and this 'Tyler' represents an idle day dream rather than a desperate yearning. Lots of people have serious health problems and you just deal with it as best you can. I think I was mostly just amused by my own mental inversion.

    Also, am I the only person who has made the mistake of watching Fight Club with friends whilst hammered and ended up having a comically inept brawl in a field afterwards?
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    my tyler finds everything ridiculous.

    i had insomnia since birth pretty much up until i was 22ish, so i know exactly what i'm like when sleep deprived. everything gets really disolcated and surreal, like nothing is really there and nothing really matters much. even the most mundance things can seem ridiulous, i would start laughing at a door, or the cat, or just nothing. and i would often forget what i'm supposed to be doing.

    this was normally after at least 2 days of no sleep mind, i can handle missing out on one nights sleep.

    so yeah, my tyler is a nutcase, i've met him ;)
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
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    My Tyler would probably spend a lot less time on the internet.
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      CommentAuthorroque
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
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    my Tyler wouldn't use the internet for ANYTHING except a tool for communication. and he would treat First Life like Second Life.
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
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    I suspect I am my Tyler, or that he's equally as lame as I am so you'd barely be able to tell the difference.
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    I don't suffer from insomnia, but I don't sleep as well as I used to, and if I don't get a certain amount of sleep in a night, I end up like a zombie the next day(s). So that might be in the ballpark (since I usually don't get enough sleep).

    What would 'my Tyler' do? Probably procrastinate less. Probably would be more sarcastic. And as zombie mode is just about kicking in, I really can't coherently think of what else my Tyler would do. I probably have to come back to this.
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      CommentAuthorAdam
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
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    Also, am I the only person who has made the mistake of watching Fight Club with friends whilst hammered and ended up having a comically inept brawl in a field afterwards?


    Yo. And it was in my friend's living room, the one with tile floors. And we weren't always drunk. And it continued on a weekly basis until someone got someone else's tooth imbedded in their knuckle, necessitating surgical removal. I scored a few black eyes on occassion, and usually only won by default because we instituted a no-grappling rule. Grappling is boring to watch, in a fairly homo-erotic way.
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      CommentAuthortim12s
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
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    Going to work on 3hrs of sleep = missing fingertips.

    My Tyler...
    wouldn't be on meds that makes me slightly stupid, all the time.
    would get a good night's sleep every night.
    would complete every idea or project that came to him.
    would shit deadlines.
    would be a power-manager, and get me cool clients to draw and paint cool shit for.
    wouldn't own a tv.
    would be 2 stone lighter.

    However, My Tyler...
    would probably have the lifting ability of Steve Albini.
    would be a dull fuck.

    There has to be a trade-off somewhere.
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    Also, am I the only person who has made the mistake of watching Fight Club with friends whilst hammered and ended up having a comically inept brawl in a field afterwards?



    Sort of, my friends used to watch that movie and, because they are afraid of getting really hurt, they would challenge them to punch one another in the face, usually pulling the punch just a little. I, having been punched in the face before, avoided this as any reasonable person would.

    This pattern continued for several months until a friend of mine named Jeremy showed up one night and, possibly not understanding the unspoken rule, or more likely just not caring knowing Jeremy, knocked one of my friends unconscious for several minutes, which brought an end to the foolishness.

    I've had insomnia since I was 15, but I doubt I would have any kind of wierd alter-ego, though in truth I act so bizarrely once I'm short three or hour days of sleep that I doubt anyone would notice.
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      CommentAuthorhowyadoin
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
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    I'm an occasional insomniac. Used to have it really bad a few years ago, and then I managed to avoid it, until a couple nights ago. Saturday I went to bed around 2:30, and it took me 7 hours to get to sleep, by which point I was shaking and almost hallucinating. I managed 3 hours of sleep, and when I went to bed late the next night, once again I couldn't sleep.

    Finally I got up, worked on a painting for awhile, had 3 or 4 drinks and a doob, and that seemed to do the trick.

    As for Fight Club, it's a pretty cool movie, but the sitcom ending completely ruins it for me.
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    Someone I used to work with tried to start his own 'Fight Club' in a village hall. He put up flyers all over the place and only two people turned up. Just to point at him and laugh.
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    @alwaycrashing
    That's about how I would have reacted.

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