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  1.  (10231.21)
    Bob - yeah, what was that whole Neds Atomic Dustbin/Jesus Jones/Carter scene called? Post-grebo? Can't for the life of me remember...
    • CommentAuthoricelandbob
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2011
    The Neds, The Wonder stuff and Carter USM was definitely Grebo. Jesus Jones wasn't really grebo, they were too clean. They also made that whole thing of "oh we're the first guys to record all our music digitally" as if to say it was slightly more special than all the other stuff out there.
  2.  (10231.23)
    Ah, OK... I'd somehow always thought of grebo more as that first tranche of bands in the late '80s - Bomb Party, Gaye Bykers, Crazyhead, and the later lot being some sort of poppier, semi-nicer evolution from them...
    • CommentAuthoricelandbob
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2011
    And of course there was thing called "garage" that came over the speakers in London in the late 90s when i often went down to visit to my brother...

  3.  (10231.25)
    Oh fuck, I just remembered Acid Jazz.

    Wonder if my health insurance will pay for more therapy?
    • CommentAuthoricelandbob
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2011
    there's no hope for you there. Although i'm not that much better. I saw the James Taylor Quartet in '94!

    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2011
    if you're talking grebo, you can include pop will eat itself whose album this is the day this is the hour is one of the best of that decade in my humble opinion (altho wikipedia informs me it came out in 1989). Clint Mansell from the poppies now does all kinds of film and tv soundtracks like CSI.

    Here's 'def con one' from the coolest harcuts in stourbridge:

    loved seeing aeon flux again - looked at a few of the others on you tube - the ones without dialogue are way more interesting.

    oh, and the second half of the nineties was all friends wasn't it? I think it was underrated at the time because it was so popular. I still think joey's 'the line is a dot to you' approaches genius.
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2011
    There was some fucking bomb-ass kids' TV (I was 2 when the nineties arrived and 12 when they disappeared, soooo....)


  4.  (10231.29)
    The pop culture of the 1990s doesn't mean a whole lot to me; I was aware of it, but at the time I was mostly fixated on 70s-80s punk and hardcore myself. In the early 90s I had a poster which I'd altered to read "Never mind Nirvana, Here's the Sex Pistols". :) So even though they were rather important "formative" years for me (I went from 15-25), I don't have much to add on the topic of 90s culture. Truth be told, I was most interested in myself at the outset; by the end I'd broadened that to include politics.

    They called the 1890s "the Gay Nineties". To me that's what the 1990s were too. I'd lost my virginity shortly before, and at the end I was a couple years into a serious relationship. In between was a lot of sex. But by the end I'd gone from a self-centered punk kid to... a grown-up, capable of having my heart broken a few years later. Maybe I'm projecting a bit, but I think the gay rights movement went thru a similar transformation, from the diseased pariahs that politicians did their best to ignore, to a standard checklist item on every politician's issues scorecard (for/against), on par with immigrants or fetuses. That's the key legacy of the 90s to me.
    • CommentAuthorALE
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2011

    Awesome all on it's own, especially because (not in spite) of everything that was wrong with it, this flick took on a whole new meaning if you were also an avid Mage: The Ascension player.
  5.  (10231.31)
    Can't believe no one has addressed*

    Vidya games - My summary of the 90s is that video games had a fucking brilliant decade: if you leave out how it totally forgets to include females and old people as consumers.

    On the positive side, you have huge leaps of technological advancement, with the N64 bringing the polygonal Mario into our (well, not my) homes in 1995 as the centerpiece. You have truly timeless gameplay from Nintendo -- Mario Kart and MK64, the Super Mario World and M64, Goldeneye, people say that Ocarina game is good too -- you have groundbreaking in the home stretch on the Playstation -- the super-hyped FF7 jump in 1997, MGS, Resident Evil, etc -- and you have a quiet accumulation of classics in the PC world for the super-nerds. Add to all of that the fighting games: SFII, DoA, the other ones which I didn't like. Basically, video games did not do much to transcend the genre like they would in the 00s, but instead displayed perfection in everything that defines the genre.

    On the negatives, you have bad voice acting until MGS, a general mediocrity in art direction and style, and the fact that women were basically left out. I mean the only game that truly reached out of the committed audience to win over neophytes in the 90s was Windows Solitaire.

    Still, this is the only element of culture where I give he 90s an A

    *probably someone did and I missed it
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2011
    OOooh Mage: The Ascension Not a strictly 90s thing, I started gaming around 97, but mainly to say - hey I did that too and it was my favorite White Wolf game!

    Ok, complete tangent. I'll be quiet now.
    • CommentAuthorALE
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2011 edited
    I'm getting to the games, but I'm in the middle of a project...also you forgot the Dreamcast.
    @razrangel: I wasn't touting Mage as strictly a 90's phenomena, though I could. It simply gave Hackers a new layer of meaning if you were into it: Virtual Adepts end.Tangent.

    forgot one:

      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2011
    As long as we're talking video games, how about the amazing stuff LucasArts was putting out in the 90s?

    Grim Fandango

    Full Throttle

    The Adventure Game genre has tried to come back several times over the last ten years, but it seems to have sputtered out towards the end of the last century. My theory is that these games were made by much smaller teams - look at the opening credits for Full Throttle, for example, and then compare them to just about any game made in the 00s - and particularly with adventure games, you don't want too many cooks in the kitchen. The 90's were maybe the last time that major companies could put out games that still had a personalized stamp on every aspect of its creation, were everything wasn't polished to a textureless sheen. I'm not saying those games don't exist anymore (obviously things like Portal and Braid have that kind of individual focus), but they are rarer. Small teams were once a necessity because games were not the gigantic, eclipsing industry they have become.
    • CommentAuthorArgos
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2011
    I was a kid watching Hey, Arnold!, Rugrats (which I later discovered was animated by Peter Chung of Aeon Flux), Ahhh! Real Monsters, Rocko's Modern Life, and other such cartoon...

    also playing Sonic on Sega Genesis. And playing with pogs.

    I was too young, hence too stupid, to know good music. My sisters never listened to good music so all I was really exposed to then was pop shite.

    That pretty much sums up the 90s for me. I remember them fondly, mostly the cartoons and the sega genesis.
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2011
    troll doll

    • CommentAuthorScrymgeour
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2011 edited
    how can anyone forget this

    • CommentAuthorScrymgeour
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2011
    the nineties were pretty amazing musically,
    britpop (early days) was amazing, listen to kinickie or suede if you disagree.....
    you also had dirt by alice in chains, the fragile by NIN, loads of stuff by massive attack.....

    its also when britain became a modern country again, christ we can get halloumi now.....
  6.  (10231.39)
    We're discussing the 90's, and nobody's mentioned Duckman yet. Go look it up - it was twisted, insane and fucking brilliant.

    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2011
    What? All this mention of 90s TV and not Babylon 5?