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    You know what I've been waiting for since this whole mess began? Peopl offering solutions, not political sound bytes, not empty rhetoric, or party aligned talking points, not accusations, or finger pointing, not cynicism and whining, but SOLUTIONS. Practical application of reason and knowledge to solve complex problems. LEADERSHIP!! NOT POLITICIANS OR OPPORTUNISTS!!

    All this god damm time and, everybody, including the republicans, agree that we have problems to solve, but no one is offering any solutions! It's maddening!
      CommentAuthorDoc Ocassi
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2011

    1. Take you money out of the banks and put it into locally based credit unions, or under your bed.
    2. Divest yourself of debt.

    3. These are not direct solutions but while the banks still have your money they will not give one shit about what you do on the street.

    4. Share what knowledge you have about the problems we are facing, the ones you allude to above, the more people that know the better.
    5. from these faults, derive solutions and try and get people to help you work them into existence, or actually find someone with a solutions that you would like to forward and work towards that.

    6. Different parts of the world will have to be dealt with using local solutions, there is no one size fits all, and the solutions will have to be generated where they are applied.

    7. Forget political parties, they need to die.
    8. Demand of politicians that they break up large banks, strip them of their limited liability and distribute personal savings to locally owned and managed houses.
    9. Reform the monetary system so the generation of money is government run, not debt based and accountable to the population.

    These may seem pie in the sky, and you may be right but if we want to change things why aim for half measures. These are things IMHO we need to do.

    As an example, this is what I do:
    • I save all my money in workable assets, Credit unions, and cash, limiting my exposure to, and endorsement of, the global financial system.
    • I am involved in the transition movement where I live developing networks and knowledge to cope with peak energy and financial collapse.
    • I am also involved in building communication networks outside and opposing hierarchical control.

    To finalize, no-one will tell you the solution to these problems, because thinking that someone else can solve these problems and we don't need to worry about it, is what got us here in the first place. There are plenty of solutions out there, It may be worth reading One No, Many Yeses: A Journey to the Heart of the Global Resistance Movement - Paul Kingsnorth Written in 2003, the last chapter is a stunning prediction of the occupy movement, or maybe the occupy movement is just the 1st world media wing of the global resistance movement.
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    Uhh... if he really is serious with this shit, from this moment on Frank Miller can go choke on a donkey dick for all I care.

    Well, it's not like he's done anything particularly good in a long time, so boycotting him is going to be easy...
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2011
    Occupy SLC is being shut down, as a homeless man has died there. About half the protesters in Salt Lake are homeless. This doesn't surprise me, considering where the occupation has been happening. Pioneer Park is known as the place that homeless people tend to stay, and was some time before the Occupy movement started. I'm sure a quite few people die from issues relating to homelessness there each year. It was only a matter of time before one of those people was in a tent as part of this movement. I can't help but think going back to the way things were for these people is just going to make things worse for them, that shutting down the protest will just make it so they have to get rid of the tents that were keeping them from freezing, and there will be more people that die that won't cause any media noise at all.
    • CommentAuthorandycon
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2011
    Miller just made a spike in the economy, good job! Got me some comics and movie to sell off tomorrow!
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    What the HELL does Miller know about Al-Qaeda?
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    What the HELL does Miller know about Al-Qaeda?

    Probably as much as he knows about serving in the military and "fighting the enemy".
      CommentAuthormister hex
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2011
    Frank Miller's so cute when he's cranky.
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    The biggest surprise about Frank Miller weighing in on Occupy is that people are surprised that this is how he feels about it.
    • CommentAuthorWood
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2011
    What the HELL does Miller know about Al-Qaeda?

    Come on, haven't you read Holy Terror ?

    Frank Miller knows that Al Qaeda is a vast army of super-warriors with an immense subterranean headquarter under a major american city, and access to nuclear weaponry.

    As you can see, he's made some research on the subject.
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    Do you think when he is alone and hears a bump in the night, he screams out "Al Qaeda!!!" and buries himself deeper under his blankets?
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2011
    I was not ten feet from the man when he said to a room of a couple thousand that "Arabs" are "Barbaric" and could never have invented the microphone (the most evident object of technology in his vicinity). Apart from the deep stupidity it took to not realize that we wouldn't have a microphone had they not invented math, he came off to me as racist and self-centered. It's not surprising he's made an economic and social issue into his own racist political focus.

    For the record, there is quite the amazing flamewar in the comments section, featuring someone claiming to be an actual veteran being railed into by people that otherwise claim to honor the military. Maybe Miller is just the most subversive troll in the history of trolls.
  7.  (10239.13)
    Frank Miller: the Mel Gibson of the comic book industry.
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2011
    Frank Miller is one of those people I have ceased to be surprised at outbursts of crazy. I suppose it's a necessary precursor for the stuff he writes. Thankfully, liking a writer's work does not have to go with agreeing with (or even paying attention to) their politics.
    • CommentAuthorWood
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2011
    Except in the cases where said author puts his deranged and hateful politics all over his books.
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2011
    Another thing I like to remember: just because I liked one thing a person created does not mean I have to like everything they have created.
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    Well, I don't know - for me finding out an artist is a total douchebag often kills my appreciation for the stuff they do, and I certainly don't want to reward problem behavior by helping to fund it. (See Orson Scott Card).
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2011
    I liked 300 for the excellent way it portrayed a kind of summary of the pack of idiotic memes which started with the Greek's propaganda on the persian wars, and has run a stinking brown line trough european history ever since. Didn't occur to me that the writer had actually absorbed them all, hook line and sinker.
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    @ Vornaskotti - Good rant. Not sure burning books is really the answer tho... :p

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