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    It sent a message. My copy is still safe on my shelf, and nobody is telling me I shouldn't keep it. All is good.
    • CommentAuthorStefanJ
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2011
    David Brin opens actual history book to whack Miller's "300", defend OWS:
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    Why do people hate the Link button? :(

    -edit- Also, fun read. While I knew 300 was romanticized but entertaining bullshit, I hadn't yet read up on the details as to how/why.
    • CommentAuthorandycon
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2011 edited
    @James : Everytime I hit the link button it doesnt work for some reason..

    I think the video was entertaining but still the same type of hollow reactionary response that Miller's was, just this time it was 'on our side'. BUT the argument he made about Miller and others saying the protesters/unemployed/me that we need to just go get a job and stop bitching like they are hanging from trees is akin to telling starving Africans to just eat a god damn hamburger was spot on.

    That is what turned me off of Miller, not that he is against the protests/is a conservative. He has every right to be, I have no problem liking artists that I don't agree with philosophically (I LOVE Dave Sim's Cerebus/Glamourpuss but don't really agree with his gender politics) my problem is his hateful, argumentative and just flat out ignorant choices in expressing his opinions.

    This idea that there are millions of easy to find/entry level/come and get 'em jobs out there is just foolish. Having spent the better part of the past six months looking for work despite having a degree, a pretty good resume/work experience for a fresh out of college kid I am still coming up short. I'm not even cherry picking my choices, I just got a response in reference to an entry level janitor position telling me I wasn't qualified. TLDR; I actually WANT to work and not sit around on the computer looking at 4 different employment sites, working with 2 different temp agencies, I hate the idea that I am living on unemployment, thats not how I was raised. But it is what it is because everyone else I know isnt having much luck either.

    His plea that the real enemy isn't corporate greed but Muslim terrorists that are camped out in our toilets just WAITING to kill us just reeks of tin foil hat craziness its hard to believe. For a man who was perfectly capable of serving his country but chose not to to bitch at others for not doing so is maddening. Never mind the fact that we live in a country that only partially cares about our troops while they are serving and could care less about them when they get back home. Seriously, we have to pass a bill to bribe companies with tax credits to hire veterans? The same country where after WWII is was a sense of pride to hire someone based on the sole quality that they served in the war.

    ANYWAYS, that was too much thought/effort/emotion to throw at Frank WHORES!!!!! Miller.
    • CommentAuthorStefanJ
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2011
    I love this bit:
    "The powerful worry far less about us seeing how bad things are than us speaking up about how good things could get. Cynicism is obedience."
    -- Alex Steffan
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2011
    @StefanJ - Thanks for that. It became something of a motto.
      CommentAuthorJon Wake
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2011
    Occupy Oakland Raided. Occupy Denver raided. Occupy Atlanta raided. Occupy Portland raided. Occupy Wall Street Raided.

    Media barred from all during the raid.

    How's that First Amendment work again?
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2011
    As some people up thread suspected, they're using the 'protecting people from themselves' argument to justify the clearance.

    Seems to be going off mostly peacefully though so far.
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2011 edited
    At most of the raids, they're telling people they can return to the venues, just not camp there.

    With winter coming in North America that may work in the protesters' favor: work out rotas so their are people there all day every day but people get to go home at night.

    Of course that only works for the people who have homes to go to.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2011
    Mayor Quan, who is quickly working herself out of any kind of a re-election chance, pretty much admitted that last night's action was a coordinated effort by the leadership of the cities effected.
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    Yeah, god forbid the media be harmed by these violent hooligans.
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    To celebrate the two-month anniversary of the start of the Occupy protests, here is a handy guide to NYC actions as well as sympathy strikes in the US and overseas. This will be a constantly updated list.
    • CommentAuthorStefanJ
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2011
    "He has a right to speak" said the cop to the banker

    Comfort the afflicted, afflict the comfortable
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    @William I just came here to post that! Haha, man, Olbermann is becoming my new favorite news talky guy.
      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2011
    So... I guess Kieth Olberman is a Superman fan?
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2011
    Goddamn Batman lol

    He Knows.
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    If you're watching Warren's twitter (or other newsfeeds obv) you know the NYPD just closed airspace over OWS.
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2011
    @lamp - they didn't. It was a misunderstanding.

    Thus far the march has been peaceful, but MASSIVE.
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    99% Bat signal" on the Verizon building in N.Y. right now. I was wondering when someone was going to start doing projection graffiti.

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