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    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2011
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    The various actors guilds in the States are trying to get the IMDB to stop publishing the DOB of actors on their system.

    I see the point being made, that it's a site used by casting agencies and so allows them to age discriminate in a clandestine way, but surely the information is going to be on wikipedia and the like anyway?

    I doubt just removing it from IMBD would be enough.

    Interesting issue though.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2011
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    I know that they are going for and it is supposedly true that it is more difficult for >40 year-old actress' to get work than younger women but it just seems weird. I mean, the information is out there no matter if the IMDB puts it up or not.
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    The information might not be out there (or at least not as quickly or with as much certainty) if the IMDB didn't put it out there, though. Wikipedia editors, for example, almost certainly get that information from the IMDB. And as a job site of sorts, it would be better if they let the people it serves, and also profits off of, have more control over their pages. removing the date of birth is not too much to ask.
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      CommentAuthorCameron C.
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2011
     (10308.4)
    Yeah, because professional casting agents can't see forty years of life on a persons face anyway.

    shrug.
    • CommentAuthorArgos
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2011
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    I think it's more the idea that once the public knows someone's age, it's hard to suspend the belief that they're playing someone 10 years younger, because of how gossipy and nitpicky the public gets. "Omg can you believe she's actually 40!!! She's too old for this role she shouldn't be acting like this!" Shit like that.

    I dunno, I don't think it's that big of a deal to know actrors' ages, but this is coming from someone who doesn't know how things work on the inside.
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    If IMDB didn't do it, Wikipedia would. If Wikipedia didn't, someone else would. If there's a good example of the "information wants to be free" side of the classic paradox, this is it.

    Of course Hollywood practices age discrimination, and of course that's a bad thing. But it does so primarily by failing to create roles appropriate for older actors (especially female), such that anyone who looks over 40 is de facto unqualified for the jobs they're offering.
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    I think if an actor or actress has paid for a IMDBpro account it should be their option of whether or not their age is posted. If it's a free account then, it can be posted.
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2011
     (10308.8)
    @will - so, if I pay money I get to pretend to be younger than I am?

    This just amuses me, as a long term netizen (I remmeber the days when every webpage had blue text on a grey background) the IMDB is one of the oldest sites around. The IMDB was a always a 'cool pick' on yahoo and got that 'shades' icon for being so. It existed before Google ffs. Isn't this a bit late to be objecting to its content?
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2011
     (10308.9)
    @Flabyo

    It's the Internet. It's never too late to complain about anything.
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    @ Flaybyo - it would pretty much follow the rest of the logic that is already established on that site. if you do anything that has been produced on TV or in the movies, automatically a page on IMDB is generated for you. I have one. I don't pay for a pro account so there are a whole bunch of control features on there that I can't access. if it mattered that much to me, I would just get a pro account.
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    Have an opt-out option wouldn't accomplish anything. A casting director who's concerned about birth years would a) check some other source, or b) just pass them over because they're opting out. This is why (in the US at least) employers aren't allowed to ask: because the refusal to answer would be a red flag.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2011
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    Slight correction from your friendly neighborhood HR guy: US employers aren't supposed to ask because asking implies that age matters to a job, which it doesn't. Just like employers are not supposed to ask about non-work related activities, family size and composition, or the intention to have children (if an applicant is female) during an interview. Not asking is also a CYA move for the employer because if I, as the employer, as a woman about her intent to get pregnant and she says she does want to, and I don't hire her, she could argue in court that I didn't hire her because she would eventually be unable to work for a while due to pregnancy.
    • CommentAuthormunin218
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2011 edited
     (10308.13)
    What exactly *is* IMDB's target audience?

    Casting directors, moviegoers, fans?

    I should hope less casting directors would rely on a website open to the public and more on professional resources. In which case--fans are curious, and with its nearly encyclopaedic knowledge, we can look up everything to how old Pauley Perette is to how many and what movies precicely she has been in.
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      CommentAuthorallana
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2011
     (10308.14)
    It's difficult for me to imagine a more trivial appropriation of this webforum.