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    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJan 6th 2012
     (10429.41)
    @longtimelurker

    I wouldn't say he'd lose his temper, but Romney has lost his compsure in that he gets rocked back on his heels. There are definitely some key areas where he'd be weak in a debate against Obama; I mean, how exactly is he going to counter anything regarding Obamacare when it was patterned so closely after Romneycare?
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    Your question illustrates the whole point: they are more similar than different. And that's a challenge for both of them, because they both want landslide victories. It is simply not going to happen. Gore and Bush had a similar result in 2000. Two men with more similarities than differences. That's a debate you don't really hear about either, or remember. But you remember the final vote.
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      CommentAuthorNeila
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2012
     (10429.43)
    Whatever happens with the Republican stuff in the end, I just hope Rick Perry isn't the Governor of Texas anymore, OR the President of the U.S.
    Also, all the Republicans seem the same to me. :I
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      CommentAuthorFinagle
    • CommentTimeJan 8th 2012
     (10429.44)
    All three of the top candidates - Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, and Rick Santorum - performed adequately. Nobody laid a glove on Mitt, and that does make him the winner by default, as his performance was not only polished but showed some humor and flair as well. For that matter, so did Paul and Santorum.

    However, Santorum largely failed to get any applause with his set piece answers. Ron Paul did well in front of the more libertarian-leaning New Hampshire audience, though, and pressed the larger point several times that he is there in order to represent his "Constitutional" values approach in the face of the "big government" conservatives represented by Romney and Santorum. Oddly though, he never really went after Romney directly, focusing largely on some direct exchanges with Santorum.

    There's another debate in an hour on Meet the Press.
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    God help me, can't stop reading political articles and reading the comments... getting so frustrated I want to strangle someone, becoming less and less willing to be reasonable and listen to someone else's side of an argument.

    Need to quit, but can't stop, terrified of all of the Republican nominees...

    @Neila, trust me, a good portion of the rest of Texas is hoping right a long with you
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      CommentAuthorJay Kay
    • CommentTimeJan 8th 2012
     (10429.46)
    @Finagle

    If I remember right, Paul went after Romney during previous debates--not direct mud-slinging, but more of, "this is what he says he'll do as President, I think that's wrong because of this."
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJan 10th 2012
     (10429.47)
    Well, NH primary is under way and supposedly all of the polls have closed (which seems early to me but, then again, NH has a fraction of the population of California).
    • CommentAuthorStefanJ
    • CommentTimeJan 10th 2012
     (10429.48)
    I'm surprised and rather pleased that Gingrich has gone all Occupy on Romney.

    This guarantees that Newt will never be the nominee (the conservative think tanks are already calling him a heretic). Did he know this, and do it anyway out of spite?

    And it means that Obama can Go There. The class card has been put into play . . . . by a republican!
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeJan 10th 2012
     (10429.49)
    Discussing this this evening (disclaimer, I'm a brit, so don't really get your politics) and we reckon it'll be Romney and that he'll try and get Palin as running mate.

    Can it work that way?
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJan 10th 2012
     (10429.50)
    @Stefan

    Scalzi put it well with the idea that now that Gingrich knows he's probably not going to be the nominee, he's showing his true colors by approaching it as "...and neither will you."
    • CommentAuthorStefanJ
    • CommentTimeJan 10th 2012
     (10429.51)
    By this point, I think Palin is fatally tainted.

    However, Romney would probably pick for his running mate another religious conservative of the Flaming Looney variety, to make up for his being A) associated with the northeast, and B) a Mormon.
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeJan 10th 2012
     (10429.52)
    There's a belief in the UK that Palin isn't running this time because while she wants to run, she doesn't want to run against Obama.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2012
     (10429.53)
    I think the Tinkerbell, "Donate more and she'll run" bullshit she pulled earlier, the trumped up bus campaign, trying to appropriate an annual memorial motorcycle ride for her own political purposes, have pretty much made everyone but her most strident supporters realize what an idiot she is and even then, after she bailed on them, some of them left her too. If anything the last three and change years have taught us is that she only gets worse, not better, and I don't even think Santorum is that far off the deep end.
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      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2012 edited
     (10429.54)
    Is it just me, or did the NH polls do a nice job of listing the candidates, in descending order, of least to most bugfuck insane?

    With the one exception being Huntsman. Even in New Hampshire, he did better than I expected. Might be interesting to see if he can spin that up into more support. The smart thing for Romney would be to grab Santorum as running mate, but who knows, Hunstman might make himself out to be the wedge that Romney can drive into Obama's faltering moderate support.

    Also, oldhat and I have a $5 bet on Perry dropping before South Carolina. She thinks he's just crazy enough to try it again - I agree. However, I think his staff are going to jump ship before then.
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      CommentAuthorNeila
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2012
     (10429.55)
    @Anchorbeard Perry's delusional enough to ride it till the end when someone has to tap him on the shoulder and whisper in his ear "It's over" even after his staff leaves. I think it comes from him being a "big fish in a small pond" in Texas politics. I'm not sure he's intelligent enough to cut his losses.
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      CommentAuthorSonny
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2012
     (10429.56)
    I've already decided that I'm putting a tag/graffiti in the write-in section this year. And maybe every other year for the rest of my life. The system is soooooooo fucked. Some have predicted this election will cost upwards of 14 billion dollars. 14 billion.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2012
     (10429.57)
    @Nella

    Well, he has said he's going to South Carolina so him leaving before then is unlikely, though him staying after South Carolina is anyone's guess (I do agree with you that it may take the guy with the pushbroom cleaning up around him for Perry to finally get the hint).

    What amused me was that Fox was calling it as early as 15% of precincts counted. The fact that Paul and Huntsman did as well as they did was interesting. Not too surprised that Santorum did as bad as he did; New Hampshire has had legalized gay marriage for a while (politically speaking) and I couldn't see the people of NH taking too well to his bigoted message. Glad I was right.
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    I don't understand how any of those people, with the possible exception of Huntsman (but possibly just through my lack of knowledge) could ever be elected to any kind of public body at all. They're just awful. Romney has a kind of deranged, vulpine look, like he feeds on raw baby and drinks virgins' souls. Santorum? Would run like fuck if I saw him coming toward me.

    Perhaps its relative and UK politicians look like that to Americans, but these guys seem like complete freaks to me, and it's terrifying that any of them could be serious contenders for 'supreme commander of most scarily armed country on earth'.
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    I'm sticking with Romney picking either Jeb Bush or Chris Christie as running mate, although Marco Rubio is looking like a terrifying possibility in a bid to shore up Florida. Santorum's going to be too damaged by Romney's own campaign to make a viable VP unless he unexpectedly drops out. Christie may decline, wanting a shot himself next time if Romney loses (no-one really likes being associated with a failed campaign).
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    @JP Carpenter:

    Pretty sure most Americans think your constitution is bizarre, but otherwise, really, look what we're working with over here. I think most of us recognize that our politicians are in a whole new class of crazy.

    At least, I hope most of us recognize that.