Whitechapel - Malvinas Fucklands 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323214#Comment_323214 2012-02-02T16:05:52-08:00 2012-02-04T08:17:46-08:00 JP Stargazer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=603 So, as you know, I'm argentine, and as you know, people from the UK, things have been getting pretty much difficult between both our lands in the past few months, diplomatically speaking. I've read ...
Make Love, Not War.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323218#Comment_323218 2012-02-02T16:12:17-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 JP Stargazer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=603 Well, of course I don't believe in everything that our government is saying here, either. But anyway... Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323271#Comment_323271 2012-02-03T08:41:11-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Flabyo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1306 It comes down to the same thing all these things eventually do. Oil. We've found some down there and so now we're very keen to hang on to the islands again. The UK position *has* always been ...
Oil.

We've found some down there and so now we're very keen to hang on to the islands again. The UK position *has* always been that we'll keep them as long as the people living there want us to. Can't remember the last time they had a vote on it, but the islanders do seem to want to be a British colony still.

Saying that we're provoking by sending Prince William there to do more of his military service does seem a little like an overreaction. (the man is a rescue pilot! hardly like his younger brother the Apache gunship pilot...)

Now would be a good time to attack I suppose, seeing as we've just decomissioned our aircraft carriers.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323275#Comment_323275 2012-02-03T09:06:43-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Lawrence Rider http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10647 Nobody's paying that much attention to it here. It makes the news, but not in a jingoistic way. It's unlikely that many people even care beyond a vague 'well, I suppose it's British' kind of way, ...
As for William heading there - it's part of the Jubilee thing. Frankly it'd be odder if we DIDN'T send someone from the royal family to somewhere that's recognised as British.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323291#Comment_323291 2012-02-03T14:58:58-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 flecky http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8949 I remember the Falklands stuff in the eighties;knew a guy who served over there and what happened to him weren't pretty. I've reached a point in my life where i no-longer really follow current ...
I've reached a point in my life where i no-longer really follow current events.It's not that i don't care about things;if something is outside my power to do anything about it i can't see the point in getting a ulcer getting riled-up over it;leave that to the politicians and "them"in charge.It might sound like a bad attitude but it is what it is...]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323296#Comment_323296 2012-02-03T16:55:08-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 JP Carpenter http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2485 I think it's massive dickwaving on both sides. A conflict is in nobody's interests. They've just sent a billion pound destroyer down there that can apparently shoot down something the size of a ...
It's been quite big news in my local press - portsmouth's a big navy town.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323317#Comment_323317 2012-02-04T06:37:46-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214 Yeah, it's a useful political flag-waving exercise for both sides to trot out occasionally. Most reasonable people in the UK's opinion is that the residents should always have first and final say in ...
Argentina has pretty much no hope of ever successfully invading again, and the cost of doing so in both lives and money wouldn't be worth it, unless there were a major oil or gas find. Which is what both nations both hope and fear, as it would bring matters to a head again.

Britain's military, although severely depleted since the 80s and without carriers, is actually a lot more capable than it was at the time of the last war and three or four ships, a couple of subs and the handful of Typhoons stationed on the Islands could wipe out an invasion force very quickly. Just one of the subs could flatten Buenos Aires with conventional weapons and the whole of Argentina's air force would be taken out by four Typhoons and an air defence destroyer. Something that couldn't be done before. Argentina knows this and also knows Britain would have the will to do it, as the political capital for any prime minister who presided over this would be immense. So there are limited circumstances in which it would happen, pretty much down to a fossil fuel find.

So, for now, sabres will rattle, but little will happen, unless someone really stupid gets into power in Argentina again.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323324#Comment_323324 2012-02-04T07:45:16-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Kradlum http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3664 I've read somewhere that all the fuzz that Cameron is causing with this issue is very similar to what the fucking militars did here back in '82 There's really no fuss here, so I'm guessing you ... I've read somewhere that all the fuzz that Cameron is causing with this issue is very similar to what the fucking militars did here back in '82

There's really no fuss here, so I'm guessing you read that from an Argentine source.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323365#Comment_323365 2012-02-04T15:12:34-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 icelandbob http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5250 Yeah, it just seems to be a fair amount of rehashing of old enmities and dick swinging from both sides. It's boring. Cameron just basically want to look all hard and militaristic, like his Auntie ... Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323634#Comment_323634 2012-02-08T00:38:49-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Flabyo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1306 Argentina are going to make a formal complaint to the UN about British 'militarisation' around the islands. Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323636#Comment_323636 2012-02-08T01:08:34-08:00 2012-02-08T01:13:53-08:00 sneak046 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4574 What Oddcult/JP Carpenter/Bob and Flabyo said - Metaphorical dickwaving (and eventual war-fighting) won Maggie a landslide victory in the '83 election in spite of huge economic problems, the largest ... this in the Beeb's archives), which in turn set the scene for the tories to continue in power until Tony Blair's victory in '97.

Cameron is trying to look 'hard' and belligerence-in-general plays well with the rightwing press, but for sure the (something like) 65 billion barrells-worth of oil is likely to be a big geo-political driver in any conflict over the Islands.

For most UK citizens though the main overriding opinion is the same as for the Gibraltan situation in that while there are people there that self-identfy as British then it should remain a British Overseas Territory, beyond any jingoistic or financial or energy-security matters.

[multiple edits for spelling and clarity]]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323657#Comment_323657 2012-02-08T06:34:55-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Flabyo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1306 Gibraltar is a fun one these days, because the EU open borders agreement essentially forced Spain to end their closure of the border. They still want it back, but their options for trying to force us ...
It's a weird place to visit. Like someone took Guildford and draped it over a rock in a sunny place.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323662#Comment_323662 2012-02-08T07:21:45-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 sneak046 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4574 ...and added Monkeys. I've never been, but I can imagine *exactly* what you mean - The Isle Of Man but with sun. I think there also a tendency among the Great British Public to want to hang onto ...
I think there also a tendency among the Great British Public to want to hang onto whatever remnants of our colonial past remain too..]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323665#Comment_323665 2012-02-08T08:10:11-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Ben Gwalchmai http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3030 I think there also a tendency among the Great British Public to want to hang onto whatever remnants of our colonial past remain too.. Yup. Exactly. Notably, Cameron had a lot of back-bencher ... I think there also a tendency among the Great British Public to want to hang onto whatever remnants of our colonial past remain too..
Yup. Exactly.

Notably, Cameron had a lot of back-bencher dissent before 'the Flaklands [sic] situation' and it suddenly disappeared...

how...

oh - predictable.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323666#Comment_323666 2012-02-08T08:11:35-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Afghamistam http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10376 ...as you know, people from the UK, things have been getting pretty much difficult between both our lands in the past few months I'm guessing some Argentine politician needs to scrounge up a few ... ...as you know, people from the UK, things have been getting pretty much difficult between both our lands in the past few months

I'm guessing some Argentine politician needs to scrounge up a few votes because I can assure you, this is not a story in the UK.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323669#Comment_323669 2012-02-08T08:36:35-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Flabyo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1306 @Afghamistam - well, apart from it being on the news a lot today anyway. Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323671#Comment_323671 2012-02-08T08:50:51-08:00 2012-02-08T08:56:36-08:00 sneak046 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4574 ^Indeed Google's news metric for the search term "falklands islands" tells a different story Indeed
Google's news metric for the search term "falklands islands" tells a different story

]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323694#Comment_323694 2012-02-08T11:44:13-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 256 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4827 I know one person who actually lived in the Falklands, and the impression she left me with (accurate or not) is that it's a desolate shithole largely inhabited by nutters and domestic violence ...
That said, since Argentina don't seem to have a particularly compelling claim, it does appear to make sense for the 3000 inhabitants to continue their self-determined status as a British Overseas Territory.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323704#Comment_323704 2012-02-08T13:11:03-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Ian Mayor http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=882 I had noticed a recent trend in the more right-wing UK media of, well, talking about the Falklands War a bit more than made any kind of sense (including an amazing speculative-fiction editorial of ...
I assumed this was part of a propaganda drive to justify increased military spending in general, but now I'm reading a UK affiliated company has found oil in the surrounding waters, well, it's making a rather horrific sense.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323708#Comment_323708 2012-02-08T13:46:19-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 JP Carpenter http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2485 @Flabyo - yeah, Gibraltar is wierd, but then so's that whole ex-pat filled strip down the costa del sol, partner's parents lived there for years so spent a fair bit of time there. I heard an ...
I heard an interesting take on the original conflict, from someone who worked in the Admiralty at the time - the withdrawal of HMS Endurance from the south atlantic, said to have been one of the triggers for the war, was apparently as a result of a budget spat between the MoD and the Foreign office - it had no military purpose being there, so the MoD decided they wouldn't pay for it any more and if the Foreign Office wanted it there they could bloody well pay for it, hence it got withdrawn and Argentina took it as a green light that the UK wasn't that bothered.

I think Argentina needs to leave us alone over this. We need the remnants of Imperial glory and if we lost the Falklands we'd all end up having some horrible national psychosexual breakdown.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323764#Comment_323764 2012-02-09T04:05:13-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Pow http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2594 Big recession, unpopular govt trying to do all manner of mad shit, lets have another war in the falklands! w000t! I'd love for us to get our heads properly kicked in at a war, i think it would do ...
I'd love for us to get our heads properly kicked in at a war, i think it would do a lot of good for the national psyche.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323809#Comment_323809 2012-02-09T11:12:45-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Kradlum http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3664 apart from it being on the news a lot today anyway It made almost a quarter of page 30 in my paper today. We care far more about who is going to be the next England football manager. We're ... apart from it being on the news a lot today anyway

It made almost a quarter of page 30 in my paper today. We care far more about who is going to be the next England football manager.

We're replacing the one old navy ship we have down there with a new ship, and sending a prince to fly a rescue helicopter. We might send a nuclear submarine, although we might not as we might have one there already (we're not telling).

Meanwhile, Argentina and her neighbours have banned all Falkland's ships from their ports.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323827#Comment_323827 2012-02-09T14:14:12-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Osmosis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=866 @ Ian Mayor - The Mail's Dominic Sandbrook has been posting some simply astonishing bilge over the last few months, in which a variety of far-fetched military disasters befall the UK, previously ...
The Mail's Dominic Sandbrook has been posting some simply astonishing bilge over the last few months, in which a variety of far-fetched military disasters befall the UK, previously benign/irrelevant foreign politicians take on Bond-villain mannerisms, and everyone ends up in prison camps. Even the Duchess of Cambridge.

The Falklands one is here. The one where Sarko turns into Napoleon is here.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323828#Comment_323828 2012-02-09T14:19:28-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Osmosis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=866 I'd love for us to get our heads properly kicked in at a war,That's a bit of a silly thing to say. I'd love for us to get our heads properly kicked in at a war,That's a bit of a silly thing to say.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323858#Comment_323858 2012-02-10T00:13:01-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 JP Carpenter http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2485 @Osmosis - that Mail stuff... that's an absolute gem... beautifully batshit. I love the dog whistle lines like 'new PM Ed Miliband', it's like he's sitting there going 'how do I make retired colonels ... Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323862#Comment_323862 2012-02-10T00:55:11-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Ian Mayor http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=882 @Osmosis That's the stuff; tender morsels of paranoid rambling, filtered through a transparent gauze of rightwing propoganda via that... tone. That "look how calm I am in describing this, ...
That's the stuff; tender morsels of paranoid rambling, filtered through a transparent gauze of rightwing propoganda via that... tone. That "look how calm I am in describing this, it's really a possibility, I'm not crazy, I JUST WANT YOU TO... no!, [shush] no, not crazy at all" tone.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323895#Comment_323895 2012-02-10T07:26:28-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 JP Stargazer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=603 That said, since Argentina don't seem to have a particularly compelling claim, it does appear to make sense for the 3000 inhabitants to continue their self-determined status as a British Overseas ... That said, since Argentina don't seem to have a particularly compelling claim, it does appear to make sense for the 3000 inhabitants to continue their self-determined status as a British Overseas Territory.

oookeeyyy... The claim over Malvinas is a very old conflict, long before the war. And, yes, it has been used for political purposes mostly. But, imagine having a guy who lives in a big ass mansion, 5 blocks from where you live, claiming that, I don't know, your fence is his! "Oh, look, this piece of dirt is just this close from your territory, but is actually mine. Look at these dirty old papers, almost unreadable, they say I'm right!". So, yeha, the claim has been an issue among our population for over 100 years. Fact.

I think Argentina needs to leave us alone over this. We need the remnants of Imperial glory and if we lost the Falklands we'd all end up having some horrible national psychosexual breakdown.


I do hope you're joking.


It's funny. I don't have anything against most brittish people. Hell, most of my cultural shit I love and care comes from England... wich is, of course, the great latinamerican paradox of the 20th century and of this century. But I go ape about stuff llike this. I don't know, wasn't there an asian island wich was under british power not long ago, and that was ultimately given back to it's original "owners"??]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323896#Comment_323896 2012-02-10T07:30:45-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 JP Stargazer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=603 Of course, the truth is, everyone here, too, doesn't gives a shit when it comes to think what would we do with the islands, IF we got it back?? Yeah, it's mostly a political issue, and that's what's ... Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323901#Comment_323901 2012-02-10T08:48:16-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 nelzbub http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10569 from the daily mash link link]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323907#Comment_323907 2012-02-10T09:23:11-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214 Okay, but what happens if Argentina gains control of the islands? Does it boot out a few thousand people who live there and own land there that they've either inherited or bought through legal means? ...
If there were an Argentine population that was being subjugated or disenfranchised somehow then I'd be with you, and if the people who lived there wanted independence, I'd be with them. But when there isn't really an Argentine cultural presence, history or population, and no one living there is really taking anything away from Argentina, then surely it's up to the people who live there to decide what they want?

Despite the proximity, there's never actually been an Argentine colony there, with attempts at them not lasting more than a few months, and even Spanish and French ones didn't last too long.

Do any Argentinians actually want to go and live on the Falklands? Let's say, hypothetically, that sovereignty did pass over to Argentina. Aside from, say, a few farmers who were wealthy enough to set up there, who'd want to live there? Are there people who are saying they would? There's no diaspora on the mainland, no Argentines with 'Malvinas heritage'. Argentina originally wanted the islands as a prison colony.

I suspect the islands value as something to posture over is far more valuable than actual sovereignty. And that goes for both sides.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323915#Comment_323915 2012-02-10T11:51:05-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 nelzbub http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10569 Just read those Dominic Sandbrook links..... wow.... the daily mail eh? fuuuuuck.. can't manage any more words.

wow....



the daily mail eh?


fuuuuuck..





can't manage any more words.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323922#Comment_323922 2012-02-10T13:34:35-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 JP Carpenter http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2485 I do hope you're joking. Dominic Sandbrook suggests I'm not... I do hope you're joking.

Dominic Sandbrook suggests I'm not...]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323951#Comment_323951 2012-02-11T00:26:06-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Kradlum http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3664 I don't know, wasn't there an asian island wich was under british power not long ago, and that was ultimately given back to it's original "owners"?? If you mean Hong Kong, it was leased ... I don't know, wasn't there an asian island wich was under british power not long ago, and that was ultimately given back to it's original "owners"??

If you mean Hong Kong, it was leased from the Chinese and given back when the lease ran out, a very different situation.

There were British living on the Falklands before Argentina gained independence, so it can hardly be seen as "giving it back", and who would we be giving it back to? The descendants of another bunch of colonialists?]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=323964#Comment_323964 2012-02-11T11:09:37-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 256 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4827 The claim over Malvinas is a very old conflict, long before the war. And, yes, it has been used for political purposes mostly. But, imagine having a guy who lives in a big ass mansion, 5 blocks from ... The claim over Malvinas is a very old conflict, long before the war. And, yes, it has been used for political purposes mostly. But, imagine having a guy who lives in a big ass mansion, 5 blocks from where you live, claiming that, I don't know, your fence is his! "Oh, look, this piece of dirt is just this close from your territory, but is actually mine. Look at these dirty old papers, almost unreadable, they say I'm right!". So, yeha, the claim has been an issue among our population for over 100 years. Fact.

I didn't say there wasn't a claim being made by Argentina - just that the claim isn't compelling. And, honestly, "this land is near us = it's ours" isn't very compelling. There's quite a lot of land within 290 miles of Argentina; most of Chile, for instance.

For the record, it's really weird to be agreeing with a British foreign policy decision.

Out of interest, does the Argentine government have a position on the independence of Taiwan (ROC) from China (PRC)?]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=324209#Comment_324209 2012-02-14T04:11:33-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Flabyo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1306 We're screwed now. Sean Penn has sided with Argentina. Sean Penn has sided with Argentina.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=324238#Comment_324238 2012-02-14T09:37:38-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155 @Flabyo And, once again, an American opens his mouth displays his ignorance in thinking anyone gives a shit.
And, once again, an American opens his mouth displays his ignorance in thinking anyone gives a shit.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=324405#Comment_324405 2012-02-15T21:36:36-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 JP Stargazer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=603 @Oddcult: Yeah, you owned me. Pretty much with you on that.
Pretty much with you on that.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=324618#Comment_324618 2012-02-18T18:30:29-08:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 invisible_al http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1328 Do we have any visibility of the domestic problems the Argentine government is trying to distract the people of Argentina from with this dick waving? It's awfully convenient for all sides, ...
It's awfully convenient for all sides, Argentine government wrap themselves in the flag, Cameron does likewise, folks in the MOD who want to protect their budgets make noise etc etc.

Anyone got a summary of why Sean Penn is sticking his nose in so I don't need to listen to his bullshit?]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=327929#Comment_327929 2012-03-28T04:41:36-07:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Foamhead http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8779 Falkland Islands: Argentina's dissentersFor many Argentines, their country's claim of sovereignty over the Falkland Islands, or Malvinas as they are called in Spanish, is clear. Recent opinion polls ... Falkland Islands: Argentina's dissenters
For many Argentines, their country's claim of sovereignty over the Falkland Islands, or Malvinas as they are called in Spanish, is clear.
Recent opinion polls suggest that two-thirds of the population support this view.
Amid such strong backing for the government's position, dissenting voices find it hard to engage debate.
"I'm not really bothered about the claim over the Malvinas. I don't think it changes much to have them [as part of Argentina] or not," says historian Luis Alberto Romero.
"What does worry me is the rise of a nationalistic feeling that can cause traumas in our society," he says, referring to public support for the country's military regime when it decided to invade the South Atlantic islands in 1982.
]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=327934#Comment_327934 2012-03-28T05:22:34-07:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 roadscum http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7712 @The Mighty Foamhead: I suspect the BBC may have an interest here, the clue is in the name. Bunch of weasels squabbling over oil, fish and propaganda brownie points if you ask me. Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=327938#Comment_327938 2012-03-28T05:54:43-07:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Osmosis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=866 The Guardian has been running a good series of long articles from and about the islands in advance of the anniversary. I liked this audio slideshow a lot. I ran it on fullscreen through some proper ... audio slideshow a lot. I ran it on fullscreen through some proper speakers. I think it looks a lot like where I was born and grew up. Minus the minefields, of course.

This article I caught in the paper. The author, Andy Beckett, has some more related articles under his name.]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=327950#Comment_327950 2012-03-28T08:08:28-07:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Emperor http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1503 Like most Brits I struggle to care too much about the Falklands, but if the people living there want it to stay British then let them. Of course, if we follow that line of reasoning then we also need ...
]]> Malvinas Fucklands http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10475&Focus=328230#Comment_328230 2012-03-31T02:23:44-07:00 2013-06-19T14:32:01-07:00 Osmosis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=866 A collection of photos during the war and from the last few years. The Atlantic: 30 years since the Falklands War.
The Atlantic: 30 years since the Falklands War.]]>