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    • CommentAuthormanglr
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2012
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    Is anyone else seeing a family resemblance between the man and the dog?
    • CommentAuthorandycon
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2012
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    I feel so bad for that dog and what it's seen/had done to it.
    • CommentAuthorStefanJ
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2012
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    They seem kind of bored. Maybe this is just the way they relax before watching Downton Abbey.
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    This is about a year old, so it may well have surfaced here before, but it's a good point for any comedy writers to bear in mind.

    Will future generations understand “The Simpsons”?
    • CommentAuthorSolario
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2012
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    @magnusisasillyname

    I think that article is pretty poor to be honest.

    The idea that out-dated references aren't fun was pretty much disproven by most of the cartoons of the 1940's - Looney Tunes in particular. Especially if the references are mixed in with more universal humour (I don't think Family Guy will age well.) If the people behind the shows are skilled enough, references will still be funny, even if nobody gets them. At worst, they'll end up as absurdist jokes and at best, they'll tell you everything you need to know about the subject, while simultaneously making fun of it.

    The worst thing about the article is that it doesn't make parallel to, but completely diverges from the Simpsons to become a hit-piece on Community. To use Community of all shows to illustrate that there's a conflict between referential humour and character-based humour is bordering on moronic. Community is the shining example of how you can use referential humour to create character-based humour and vice-versa. If you look at a running gag in the documentary episode like Troy's infatuation with Levar Burton, you don't need to have watched Star Trek: TNG, Reading Rainbow or Roots to get any of the jokes: When Troy is sitting in the bathroom singing the title song to Reading Rainbow, gear shifts into half of a reference to Star Trek and ends up turning it around to be about Troy's hero worship of a guy who was on a couple of big and small TV shows, you'll laugh anyway. Before that episode I had no idea who Levar Burton was, but it got the biggest laugh out of me all the same, because the experience it's built around is universal.

    That article is a battle cry for blandness and humour so broad that it hits the mark for no one. You can use references to strengthen and nuance character jokes, and you don't need to have watched all the TV shows from the last 70 years to get it.
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    I couldn't help thinking to myself, while reading that article, that some of the examples of great art that the Simpsons references, according to the article, are themselves heavily reliant on references. I mean, Shakespeare is also best understood today with a whole slew of footnotes, as is Gilbert and Sullivan. They're both fun on their own terms, but you get a lot more of the humor if you understand their particular reference humor. It seems like he's just privileging the past over the present. I can see why someone would do that (I haven't been interested in Family Guy for a long time, personally, and internet humor seems to be more and more dependent upon self-reference) but that doesn't make it a great analysis, especially when he's complaining about, of all things, Community.
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    I await the "I MADE YOU A GOATSE, BUT--" variation on that meme in due course.
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    @Solario + KeeperofManyNames - All very good points there. I must admit, it was late when I found it, and after reading the first half, I kinda skimmed the stuff about Community. I think Keeper's point about Shakespeare is especially valid. No art exists in a bubble, it is all reliant on the culture from which it grew, even if it isn't directly referencing individual elements of it. An understanding of the cultural and historical context always gives a deeper reading of the text, and that's something the writer of the article seems seems to overlook. Still, it provoked some debate, and made you think about it, so it's done its job in one respect. :)

    And now...



    Through destruction, a washing machine achieves transcendence
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    Hardcore Corn, the hottest site for free corn-on-corn action
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      CommentAuthorbarton
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2012
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    • CommentAuthorOxbrow
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2012 edited
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    I don't agree with the Simpsons article, but it was certainly well timed on a night of various geek sites pointing to the show spending 45 seconds on a couch gag remake of the Game Of Thrones title sequence in an apparently unconnected episode.

    In other news, the patron saint of Dublin's heart was stolen from its cathedral, and the police who recovered pieces of the True Cross stolen last year have been called in.
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      CommentAuthortedcroland
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2012
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    Icelandic Cartoonist Hugliekur Dagsson explains racism....

    • CommentAuthorArgos
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2012
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    @tedcroland omg, I've seen that entire movie. There's a Rifftrax for it. It's so bad.

    Also, for those with Pinterest, apparently pinning others' photos on pinterest is not entirely legal and the Terms & Services pinners agreed to too holds them responsible for ALL legal feels if Pinterest gets sued for a photo you re-pinned. So uhh, might wanna rething having an account if you don't want to risk some photographer suing you over a picture on pinterest. While I personally don't think there's anything wrong with posting a photo on Pinterest so long as you've credited the artist, there are artists out there who aren't okay with it. Never know when one of them will take action.
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      CommentAuthorPurple Wyrm
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2012 edited
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    Danger 5 - Currently airing on Australian TV

    Danger 5
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      CommentAuthorBeamish
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2012 edited
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    I've been enjoying this tumblr for a while, for classic Marvel goodness.
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    Seriously good TED talk. A must watch for anyone who, ya know, breathes and lives on the planet.