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    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2012
    My work is mostly text documents and spread sheets with the occasional still illo.

    So I simply store everything in a folder called Dropbox that its on my desktop with all the work documents inside it.
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2012
    I use Dropbox, Box, and Ubuntu One.
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2012

    I have personal experience with Mozy Pro, for true online backups. Dropbox is great and all, but you're really just talking about backing up files.

    If you want to back up an entire system for real - settings, favorites, all that - you need a program that does true backups. Mozy or Carbonite are in that class.
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    I don't trust "cloud" services for backup. 1) They could up and vanish, or simply lose my data, and if that happens all the breach-of-contract lawsuits in the world won't bring your data back. 2) There is no real assurance of privacy; some of them have been known to snoop, or to hand over people's data just because someone with a badge asked nicely.

    Instead I use a hard drive connected to my home network (I built something myself, but you can do it with something like a Pogo Plug), where I dump backups of everything on my computer. OS X's Time Machine feature makes this brain-dead easy on my Mac; there's gotta be something for Windows that's in the same league, but you'll probably have to pay extra for it. The backup drive is hidden away in my house so a thief isn't likely to find it and take it. It'd take an honest-to-god search warrant for anyone else to get at it. The one thing it doesn't do is protect me in case of a disaster that takes out the whole house, which is a pretty low-probability thing, really. For off-site backup, and to protect against the backup drive failing. I make an encrypted copy of that every so often, and stash it at a friend's house. Nobody I don't trust 100% is involved.

    (I also use Dropbox, but only for synching work in progress between the computers I use. I treat it as a file-transfer service, not as storage.)
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2012

    If it's in the same building it's not a backup. It's just a copy.

    If your entire livelihood is built on data, you should be using a proper backup system.

    As a games company, our data is everything we are. The equipment can be replaced with insurance money. Our daily backup is a remote copy to the parent company on the other side of the planet. A previous company i worked at did weekly backups. Two copies of everything taken and put onto DAT tapes. Four months of these done in rotation, one kept on-site in a fire-proof safe, the other placed in safety deposit.

    At the very least you need to be putting a monthly backup into storage somewhere that isn't your office on top of any local extra copies you're making. Your parents basement, a cousins valuables safe, essentially anywhere that can't easily be taken out at the same time as your office. No good backing up your laptop files to your media server if someone breaks in and steal them both.

    If you don't do this, you will suffer for it. It might be decades, but it will happen. Everyone that doesn't do this regrets it at least once in their life. Ask Warren...
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2012
    #onlinebackups While Dropbox isn't true srsbsns backups, I do love it because it's made me more mobile & it's also made it easier for us to hire more remote workers, since now we can just edit certain files back and forth without remembering to email them back or sync them up or anything annoying like that. I'm actually setting up a remote harddrive to back up via Time Machine so I can have non-cloud storage - it's really just a harddrive I used to share over the same LAN with my neighbor, but then I moved.
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2012 edited

    That's basically what dropbox is for, the clue is in the name. It's for doing shared collaboration with people who live apart. It's really not designed for backups or long term storage of anything.

    (Hmm, I'm in a really snarky mood today guys it seems, sorry!)
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2012

    I've recently started playing guitar in a band again and it's going well. But I used to play better. Or at least, I knew some secrets, passed down to me by the guitar teacher I had when I was at school, which outlined in really simple terms which chords were in which keys, or how to work out keys from chords, and then which scales went with those chords or keys, or something. Like, just... the main one, then a relative one, which was the same really, then a minor one which also worked but sounded sad, or something.

    I can't really remember this kind of info any more, but I used to have it laid out really simply. I can't now find anything that puts it quite so simply and helpfully as that. I've tried a few guitar books and websites, but they're either just really basics like open chords, or heavy theory.

    That sheet I used to have pretty much let me play anything I wanted, and whilst I sorta can work out bits of it all by ear, I haven't got that great an ear, and having it again, or just the basic 'how-to-work-it-out' info would really be useful.

    There's got to be some musicians here that know what I mean, without complicating it.

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    I stopped using Dropbox for anything serious after they left the back door open to anyone and everyone a year or two back. I simply don't trust their security.

    SpiderOak on the other hand generates encryption keys locally, so even if they did fuck up as badly as Dropbox did, the only data people could access would be encrypted. With SpiderOak you can also tell it what folders you want to backup, whereas Dropbox still only backs up the contents of the one folder (unless they've updated recently).

    Oh, and SpiderOak is free, just like Dropbox. But even then it depends on how much you're backing up - if you're doing high quality audio, video or photo then you'll have to pay for enough space for it all.
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    After a good night's sleep I realised that using Dropbox would require me to either duplicate the files I want to backup, or radically alter my directory structure - neither of which I really want to do. So it looks like Dropbox is out.

    I'm currently tossing up between Spideroak, Crashplan and Mozy. One of the things I need to backup are close on 10 years of digital photos, so I'm going to be paying for storage beyond the free allowance each provides no matter which one I choose.
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    This is a very timely conversation for me. I'm just looking at ways to get more robust and regular with my backups. I'm generating a lot more content now than I was a couple of years ago and I also need home access to work files so I can keep plodding away on things after hours.

    Jason mentioned Time Machine. I use Macs as well - a Pro at the studio and a Mini at home, although I'm about to trade up to an iMac - and I got a bit of advice regarding Time Machine from a former colleague who now runs a Mac rescue service. He said not to rely entirely on Time Machine because if your HD totally fails and needs reformatting or replacing, it often does not restore completely.

    It's great for quick recovery work, the corrupted/deleted file, the crashed app, but for large-scale recovery he recommends Carbon Copy Cloner. It's free and you can schedule it but you have a lot more control over format and order things are backed up in and how the backups are written than you do with TM. Crucially you can also create a bootable image of your main disk so if that's what's hit the deck, you're up and running again in minutes instead of hours.

    SpiderOak looks interesting. My wife swears by DropBox but the single-folder thing is an issue for me. I was considering a kludge workaround using CCC to write only today's changed files to the DB folder, but SpiderOak might be a better solution. I'll also be getting an external HD for monthly backups that I can send home with my Dad so that there's a third remote copy. All my old work is backed up to DVD and my folks have copies as well, but some of the newer stuff - I'd just need one break-in or flood and I'd be screwed.
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    I'm not using it currently, but I used to use Carbon Copy Cloner extensively, and it's rock-solid.
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2012 edited

    Another possibility is to roll your own online storage. You can purchase (for most platforms) software such as JungleDisk which will simply allow you to access a chunk of online storage (Amazon, in the case of JungleDisk) as a virtual drive. You can then use whatever encryption and backup software you like to target it.

    Amazon's online storage rates are fairly reasonable and predictable. If you use them simply as online storage, then utilize your favorite encryption solution to encrypt your local hard drive (which we all know we probably should be doing anyhow), then one can use a free file sync utility such as SyncBack or an image backup utility such as DriveImageXML to target that as your backup selection. Alternately, you can back up first to an encrypted hard drive, then send an encrypted image of the hard drive offsite by copying it to the cloud drive.

    One final alternative would be to utilize a NAS. Network storage servers like the Netgear ReadyNAS or Buffalo LinkStation generally have the ability to do two things: Back themselves up automatically to a USB drive, and sync automatically to another similar NAS unit at a remote location. With a NAS, USB drive backups are generally automatic - just plug it in and forget it. Ideally you use two or more USB drives and rotate one offsite.

    Finally, if you have two similar NAS units and an offsite location with high speed access, you can back up one NAS directly to another NAS. This is an ideal solution if you want to back up your office to a home office, or if you can get friends or parents with highspeed to host another NAS for you. The two units will sync files directly between each other over the Internet. This can serve both for backup (long-term retrieval of archived files) and Disaster Recovery, as it will maintain a complete copy of all your current data.

    As people said before, though, don't confuse Disaster Recovery with Backup. A complete offsite mirror of your *current* files won't help you if you need to retrieve a file from months ago. Be careful when evaluating your solution so you know how far back their retention allows you to go. Retaining multiple copies can get expensive.
  6.  (10536.54)
    #comics subscriptions online

    One of the side effects of living in the boonies, as beautiful and otherwise lovely these boonies are, is that there really isn't a reliable local comic book shop, the place I ordered from in Duluth wasn't all that reliable either. And quite frankly, I only really want to order phonogram, so going through a shop seems a bit much. So, those of you that get your stuff online, which site do you use? I'd go directly through the publishers but Image doesn't do online subscriptions.
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    Would anyone like to give me some feedback on a script I've written for a 2000 AD Future Shocks story? Obviously you'd need to be a fellow amateur, and obviously we'd need to do it via email, not this forum.

    It's my first real attempt at writing a comic script, and whilst I like the idea I'm not sure if the script itself is any good or technically sound. It's for 5 pages of comic, so it shouldn't be a huge time commitment.
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2012

    I will, I wll, skizzfan42 at the gmails.
  8.  (10536.57)

    I'm fresh to Whitchapel and just have some small matters to attend:
    1. Is there an f.a.q about?
    2. Lexington Ky is having it's first comic con this very week and I am shopping for artist for my first comics venture. Any genral advice?
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2012


    Er, I mean, welcome!

    Closest thing we have to a FAQ is the rules thread, which should set you right on what you can and probably shouldn't do. Other than that we're generally a respectful, tolerant lot of questions and if you ask questions most people will answer them.

    Two things to keep in mind though: Whitechapel is always considered NSFW and there is absolutely NO crying in Whitechapel.
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    Muy thanks. Tears are for the weak and fiction. Roger Dodger.
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    Another big rule for writerly types is POST NO FICTION. It'll be deleted on sight as it would leave Si and any other professional writers who stop by in a difficult position. Every now and then there might be a thread for some non-fiction yarn spinning, but that's it.

    @Beamish - Thanks! Email coming any moment now.