Sat, 25 May 2013 06:29:38 -0700 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.4 & Feed Publisher http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330229#Comment_330229 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330229#Comment_330229 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 02:32:18 -0700 Horrible Warning Si REMAKE/REMODEL meme is one of my favourite things. Artists need a place to show off and Whitechapel should always be It. A handful of entries will be showcased on Bleedingcool at the end of each challenge.



THE RULES:

This is for ART ONLY. Any pen-portraits, or crappy scribbles padded-out with words, will cause a deployment of the newly-trained Urethral Attack Maggots. And a banned account.

No stock-photo manipulation. No half-arsed bollocks. Anything deemed to be piss-takery will be nuked from orbit. Original photography is fine.

No more than ONE submission by any one person.

INSTRUCTIONS:

FUCK FUCKING VAMPIRES

So, my delicious haemobotherers of delight: it can’t have escaped your attention that fang-touting brooding gothbait bastards are all over the media like a rash at the moment. Not that they ever went away, really, but the slew of so-called reinventions – in fact just new scrotal slings for the same old lizardy bollocks – has been particularly heavy over the past decade.

You know the score, of course. In the Byronic tradition: blood-supping aristocratic wronguns, scantily-clad virgins, power-over-mortals, etc. Switch in the odd cloud-of-smoke, an occasional kapoosh-now-it’s-a-bat, maybe lose the aristocratic bit, add a quiff, give him an iPad, blah blah blah. It’s still an inefficient leechpredator who creates his own foodchain competition, has a set of the worst Kryptonitealikes Evar, and probably has really really smelly poop. Vampires, when you think about it, are really really rubbish.

So let’s make ourselves a new monster. Let’s get rid of all the fluff, all the questionable traditions, all the pale-and-interesting emo wank and all the cloaks.

You will design for me a Creature who can live Among Us. We want a fiend who preys on the community in as creepy and unconventional a way as possible. Avoid obviousness - this isn't a guzzler-of-flesh, but a Stealer Of Power. Does it eat laughter? Ideas? Screams? Sexuality? What role in society would it take: this thinner-of-the-human herd?

Put away the folklore bibles. Don’t even bother flumfing around on Wikipedia for foreign versions of the vampire trope. You will be original. You will be cunning and clever and sinister and awesome. And funny, if you like.

What does the SuckBeast of today – or, hey, tomorrow – look like? ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330230#Comment_330230 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330230#Comment_330230 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 02:35:03 -0700 Magnulus http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330236#Comment_330236 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330236#Comment_330236 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 03:22:03 -0700 Oddcult

Deleted for taking the piss in 5...4...3.. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330242#Comment_330242 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330242#Comment_330242 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 04:31:07 -0700 Jason A. Quest http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330243#Comment_330243 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330243#Comment_330243 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 04:34:45 -0700 Horrible Warning Si http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330249#Comment_330249 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330249#Comment_330249 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 06:31:40 -0700 gnilleps http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330258#Comment_330258 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330258#Comment_330258 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:15:03 -0700 phill_sea
Bank executives are a high level form of vampirism, certainly, but they lack the visceral and abject horror that vampires are known for, that are the core of what makes vampires vampires.

(Ignoring the complete lack of abjection [PROVE ME WRONG WHITECHAPEL] and...) Thinking more environmentally, iPhones are, let's face it, FAR more symbiotic than anyone ever thought a current day human--> device relationship could be. Vampires aren't symbiotic (are they?), that's their horror, for me, is that eventually they destroy their environment.

So, what ideas does this provide for us? Are current day vampires more symbiotic than simple ennui relief for teenagers?

That they create their own competition, is that still a thing that needs discussion? What would evolution around that fact look like?

I'm usually not too active in these threads, but I like this one. Hopefully my questions and prodding(s) are seen the be the productive discussion continuations they're meant to be. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330260#Comment_330260 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330260#Comment_330260 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:18:12 -0700 Horrible Warning Si http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330272#Comment_330272 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330272#Comment_330272 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:38:46 -0700 Rootfireember http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330286#Comment_330286 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330286#Comment_330286 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:07:23 -0700 Richard Pace

Any real work on creating the bloodsuckers of today would likely end up with my holding it back and doing something with it

~R ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330298#Comment_330298 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330298#Comment_330298 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:30:17 -0700 dnewling
Oh well, at least it's got me thinking about what to do for my entry. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330304#Comment_330304 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330304#Comment_330304 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:16:54 -0700 dnewling


This is a play on one reason I think the vampire is so appealing. I think there is a vampire in every one of us; a part of us that lusts for our 'darkest desires'. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330374#Comment_330374 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330374#Comment_330374 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:20:03 -0700 dnewling http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330397#Comment_330397 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330397#Comment_330397 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 04:27:18 -0700 Scrymgeour http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330419#Comment_330419 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330419#Comment_330419 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:34:40 -0700 Magnulus Famine as portrayed in Good Omens.

(I know the rule against writing, but I figured this was okay as it's an already established character in a book many of us will have read anyway.) ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330448#Comment_330448 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330448#Comment_330448 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:19:09 -0700 struthersneil


Hope this link works as I'm doing the uploading from my phone. I'll see if I get time to colour this tomorrow, otherwise it is what it is.

Good to be back! Been a while!

Edit: updated with colour. B&W here. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330452#Comment_330452 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330452#Comment_330452 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 21:04:24 -0700 dnewling http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330453#Comment_330453 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330453#Comment_330453 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 21:09:33 -0700 agnosticator http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330462#Comment_330462 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330462#Comment_330462 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 01:19:47 -0700 Horrible Warning Si http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330468#Comment_330468 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330468#Comment_330468 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 05:28:17 -0700 Beamish http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330475#Comment_330475 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330475#Comment_330475 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:20:22 -0700 sneak046 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330500#Comment_330500 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330500#Comment_330500 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:38:11 -0700 struthersneil http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330570#Comment_330570 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330570#Comment_330570 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:27:12 -0700 kmcleod ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330591#Comment_330591 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330591#Comment_330591 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:47:24 -0700 Jason A. Quest live Among Us ... preys on the community in as creepy and unconventional a way as possible ... Does it eat ... Sexuality? What role in society would it take: this thinner-of-the-human herd?..."

]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330592#Comment_330592 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330592#Comment_330592 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:59:01 -0700 Jason A. Quest zombie? ;) ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330602#Comment_330602 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330602#Comment_330602 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:33:18 -0700 Horrible Warning Si http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330608#Comment_330608 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330608#Comment_330608 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:10:44 -0700 Jason A. Quest you-doing-here feeling about them sometimes. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330620#Comment_330620 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330620#Comment_330620 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:18:20 -0700 Wood http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330624#Comment_330624 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330624#Comment_330624 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 02:46:17 -0700 government spy http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330631#Comment_330631 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330631#Comment_330631 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 04:23:27 -0700 nigredo
@government spy

Hoskins wasn't in the film but the actor who plays the detective does resemble him a bit... ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330634#Comment_330634 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330634#Comment_330634 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 04:55:34 -0700 Jason A. Quest http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330636#Comment_330636 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330636#Comment_330636 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 05:43:27 -0700 government spy
I will never forget the little condom guy w/ teeth, somewhat reminiscent of the Alien when it first popped out of the guy's chest. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330651#Comment_330651 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330651#Comment_330651 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:51:29 -0700 kmcleod
@Jason A. Quest--
"But I thought Jesus was a zombie?"

Crosses, blood-drinking, slavish followers--that's vampire couture.
Besides, zombies are migrants, not entrepreneurs. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330705#Comment_330705 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330705#Comment_330705 Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:45:43 -0700 Paul Sizer

...a Creature who can live Among Us. We want a fiend who preys on the community in as creepy and unconventional a way as possible... a Stealer Of Power. Does it eat laughter? Ideas? Screams? Sexuality? What role in society would it take: this thinner-of-the-human herd?

Ali sits in the local internet cafe, nursing an expresso that she doesn't really need to drink, feeling the waves of data wash over her again. And again. Again.
Lunchtime is a rich, potent time. Each URL. Each cel pulse.
And when she's had enough for the day, Ali writes down what she remembers and does what she pleases with each bit, each number, each digit. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330762#Comment_330762 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330762#Comment_330762 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 08:28:25 -0700 Joe B http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330764#Comment_330764 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330764#Comment_330764 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:19:56 -0700 Kosmograd
]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330771#Comment_330771 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330771#Comment_330771 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:06:44 -0700 Morac http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330779#Comment_330779 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330779#Comment_330779 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:32:12 -0700 Paul Sizer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330783#Comment_330783 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330783#Comment_330783 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:37:50 -0700 mthemordant
@ Jason A. Quest - I think it's been established now that Jesus was in fact a Litch. http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/4/5/11/enhanced-buzz-4883-1333641173-17.jpg ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330792#Comment_330792 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330792#Comment_330792 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:48:52 -0700 Horrible Warning Si http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330849#Comment_330849 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330849#Comment_330849 Tue, 01 May 2012 15:40:54 -0700 Oxbrow

Obvious satirical brickbat - giant franchises where if you stand outside one you can see another one along the street. Homogenised, homogenising, everywhere. Draining choice, one shopfront at a time.

Logo (the art bit) on its own here. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330851#Comment_330851 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330851#Comment_330851 Tue, 01 May 2012 15:46:18 -0700 dnewling http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330931#Comment_330931 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330931#Comment_330931 Wed, 02 May 2012 16:17:13 -0700 Shang


Chromatophage - sucks colour out of people for sustenance. Victims probably lose all personality or something :P ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330943#Comment_330943 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330943#Comment_330943 Wed, 02 May 2012 21:18:13 -0700 dnewling http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330967#Comment_330967 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330967#Comment_330967 Thu, 03 May 2012 08:03:25 -0700 kmcleod Cafes, social media and video games flow through this challenge; has the feel of concepts aligning. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330968#Comment_330968 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330968#Comment_330968 Thu, 03 May 2012 08:07:54 -0700 government spy across the street from a Starbucks. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330981#Comment_330981 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330981#Comment_330981 Thu, 03 May 2012 11:07:10 -0700 Wood http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330989#Comment_330989 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=330989#Comment_330989 Thu, 03 May 2012 13:25:23 -0700 Oxbrow http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331007#Comment_331007 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331007#Comment_331007 Thu, 03 May 2012 17:28:21 -0700 dnewling
But my entry's up now and I'm happy with it, so no more takes on the vampire for me. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331104#Comment_331104 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331104#Comment_331104 Fri, 04 May 2012 18:13:41 -0700 Shang http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331142#Comment_331142 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331142#Comment_331142 Sat, 05 May 2012 08:55:15 -0700 Zlatan

When I was a little boy I thought this was how it works.
Some people still do I think. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331143#Comment_331143 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331143#Comment_331143 Sat, 05 May 2012 09:03:20 -0700 mojokingbee
It feeds on your insecurities and doubts.....less messy, more efficient and plentiful in supply.
also...drawing reflections is hard and I can't top Vamp condoms. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331150#Comment_331150 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331150#Comment_331150 Sat, 05 May 2012 11:29:36 -0700 Axel Medellin

Oh, you know you have fed her. You do it everyday and enjoy it. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331160#Comment_331160 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331160#Comment_331160 Sat, 05 May 2012 17:20:10 -0700 256
@Zlatan - really not sure how I feel about that.

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Rupert Murdoch: The ultimate fucking Vampire. Enough said. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331206#Comment_331206 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331206#Comment_331206 Sun, 06 May 2012 05:55:12 -0700 Zlatan http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331214#Comment_331214 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331214#Comment_331214 Sun, 06 May 2012 09:36:03 -0700 oogliemooglie
Thanks in advance, man! It will help considerably with the nightmares. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331226#Comment_331226 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331226#Comment_331226 Sun, 06 May 2012 15:34:34 -0700 Zlatan imaginary monster trying to magically convert a young victim to be like him. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331232#Comment_331232 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331232#Comment_331232 Sun, 06 May 2012 18:40:34 -0700 Herr Hussein ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331233#Comment_331233 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331233#Comment_331233 Sun, 06 May 2012 18:54:47 -0700 Pupato


]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331248#Comment_331248 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331248#Comment_331248 Sun, 06 May 2012 23:12:04 -0700 imaginarypeople you should make the jester throwing jellybeans, just a suggestion ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331257#Comment_331257 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331257#Comment_331257 Mon, 07 May 2012 02:51:42 -0700 kmcleod http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331337#Comment_331337 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331337#Comment_331337 Mon, 07 May 2012 19:46:29 -0700 Oxbrow
... Nicely done.

(AAAAAAAAAAAGHHHH!) ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331352#Comment_331352 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10628&Focus=331352#Comment_331352 Mon, 07 May 2012 23:58:19 -0700 Pupato