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    @DavidLejeune- I've been watching what the guys have been doing on YJ. I saw Brandon Vietti in the hallway Friday and told him he and the guys have been crushing it. I wish CN would treat YJ (along with the other WB shows) better though.
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    Now that they've got the DC Nation block, they at least have a pretty solid timeslot, and they've been airing new episodes ever since they put it there. The worst thing CN has done with its good shows is shuffle them around non-stop, and then put them on hiatus with no warning or indication of when they'd return. Sym-Bionic Titan never got a fair shake because they kept moving it around, f'rinstance.

    Bringing back Toonami and sticking the DC shows in there would be the most ideal, though. They're probably losing a lot of viewers just because 9am on Saturday morning is not when the target audience for those shows is likely to be awake and watching TV.
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    @DavidLejeune - actually ratings for Green Lantern, and Young Justice have gone up since it's been on the DC Nation block. Thunder Cats ratings went up as the DC Nation's lead in as well. Mainly because (like you said) people can find it now. Might be a little too little, a too late though for some of those shows.
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    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2012
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2012
    This is way, way late, but I finally ran acros Mr. Ellis' X-Men on G4 from the start, caught the first two episodes last night. Complete fun. Mr. Ellis manages to make Cyclops interesting, which is quite a feat.
    • CommentAuthorSolario
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2012 edited
    In regards to Dan Harmon getting fired from Community:

    Not only is Harmon gone, so is Chris McKenna, the Russo brothers and Neil Goldman. Don't know if they left in protest or were fired. Basically, the only one left aside from the cast, is Megan Ganz (who, I should mention, is great.) I doubt she'll get enough leverage to guide the show now that the Happy Endings people are taking over. They should have just cancelled it, instead of this horrible, shambling zombie we're going to get.

    No one knows exactly why Harmon was fired, but the Sony spin-machine is trying to make it about how Harmon was difficult to work with; which isn't unlikely, but seems strange, as I'm sure there are a lot worse showrunners out there. Here's Harmon's thoughts:
    "Why’d Sony want me gone? I can’t answer that because I’ve been in as much contact with them as you have. They literally haven’t called me since the season four pickup, so their reasons for replacing me are clearly none of my business. Community is their property, I only own ten percent of it, and I kind of don’t want to hear what their complaints are because I’m sure it would hurt my feelings even more now that I’d be listening for free."
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    A couple of days ago I watched two episodes of How I met Your Mother, I didn't laugh once. Why is this shit getting produced and Community is getting kicked about.
    • CommentAuthorSolario
    • CommentTimeMay 20th 2012
    I actually don't think How I Met Your Mother is bad, just a bit bland, but at least it has likable characters, good actors and tries to do some different once in a while. I rarely laugh at that show anymore, but it's not like it's The Big Bang Theory or something similar.

    The showrunners taking over Community are the people who did Aliens in America, which I haven't watched, but also the US version of the IT Crowd. So that's not bodding well either.
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    Meanwhile, in season endings... both Grimm and Person of Interest ended on nasty cliffhangers, with major characters in peril. Difference is, Person of Interest got it right.
    I don't dislike Grimm, but it's biggest flaw is balancing the episodic worldbuilding with weekly procedural tales. Person of Interest pretty much got this nailed by the middle of the season. I honestly think it's my favourite new show - and it's renewed.

    Also, Nikita is way more fun than you probably think.
    • CommentAuthorSteadyUP
    • CommentTimeMay 20th 2012
    As long as Megan Ganz is still around, I have hope for Community. If she goes, I think that's a pretty clear sign that they're taking it in a different direction as opposed to just having issues with Harmon personally.
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2012
    The problem is that Community was very, very heavily a product of Harmon's supervision. He was a hard ass and had final say in everything. Without him, the show just isn't the same.

    Also, this.
    • CommentAuthorSteadyUP
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2012 edited
    ...oh, jesus god.

    The funny thing is, that actually illustrates perfectly one of my favorite things about Community - Joel McHale being a good-looking, in-shape actor type is a major plot point, rather than pretending he's an everyman, or worse, an unpopular dork.
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2012 edited
    For a little balance, here's an interesting take from Cheers showrunner Ken Levine.

    And here's an old quote from Dan Harmon, commenting on the D&D episode:
    The studio and network response at the table-read was so removed from that. They were so upset about the crime of this episode having been written. The note session as a whole was preceded by a 45-minute period of them walking around the lot whispering to each other. They told me they would come up to my office and meet me privately. When they came up, I had the director and all of the writers in the office with me, because I was terrified. They sat down, and they said, “Look, where do we start?” I couldn’t believe this was happening. I was like, “This is opposite of how you should feel right now. This is a great episode. We’re going to get a 1.7 no matter what. We will build our ratings in other ways. The episode is not about credit cards; it’s not about Hilary Duff. It’s going to get the same numbers. There is a cultural build to a hit show. We have to prove to people that we’re capable of good things so they can trust us, so that we can have a relationship. One day we will either be a highly rated show or we’ll be cancelled. It will not have to do with this moment. This episode is good, the story is good, these characters are good. Anyone who doesn’t tune in because the commercial says they’re playing Dungeons & Dragons, it’s not my fault. It’s not on me.

    It was such a depressing note session, because they didn’t even have any notes on the story. They just didn’t want it to exist. I took a photograph of my eyes driving home that day at 3 p.m. because I was leaving work early. I looked in my rearview mirror, and I was crying. More than crying, I was red-eyes, tears streaming, weeping. And I was weeping out of self-pity and frustration, like a child weeps when he doesn’t understand his parents’ rules. “Why can’t I have ice cream when I ate my liver?” I took a photo of it, so I could show it to them between seasons, because as I told my girlfriend when I got home, “I think I’m going to have to quit my own show, because I can’t operate under these circumstances. I can’t be this proud of something that the people paying me to do it are this ashamed of. It will never work. We’ll never achieve anything. It’ll never connect.” So it was the best of times and the worst of times. I think that episode is fantastic. I haven’t watched it again, but I remember it as being something else. I invite people over to my house to watch the episodes with me on Thursday night that I’m really proud of, and that was definitely one of them.
    • CommentAuthorSteadyUP
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2012
    I'll say this - if Hawkthorne was the last "weird" episode the show ever does, they definitely went out with a bang.
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    I love Community, in the same way I love Arrested Development and Venture Bros.

    They are all smart, nuanced, witty, subversive, and well written shows that rub my G(iggle) Spot in the best way possible. I am not surprised Community was not appreciated by the masses.

    The Uncultured Swines can keep the crapfest that is Big Bang Theory.

    I am just happy that I got three seasons out of a show that I love(Hell, Firefly didn't even get one whole season)

    As for Season 4, I'll give it a few episodes, the original talent may be gone, but I still love the cast, and I have a feeling that even if the writing is safe and generic, the cast may still be able to make it work with their ample charms and talent, and no, I am not refering to Allison Bries boobs(Although, I am thinking of them now. BoopBoopBeeBoop.Sex!)

    Although to be fair, they got big shoes to fill, I was hooked on Community with the first episode. That is rare.
    • CommentAuthorkhaoohs
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd 2012
    @DJ Stawes, I wish you hadn't shared that link about the new Community showrunners. I saw that pilot, and it was a total crapfest.

    @boodoffstage, I have to disagree. I believe that the lovable monkey Annie's Boobs is full of charm and talent.
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    To each his own I guess:) I have a very high tolerance for monkey charms. Fuck the monkey, "Annies Boobs"
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    So, based upon recommendations from other Whitechapeler's, I watched Deadwood. A couple of things:

    1. Really liked the show, as if I didn't already swear worse than my fellow prison guards.

    2. Thought it was funny that the actor who played Dan
    was also the retarded brother from Something About Mary.
    Retarded brother from Something About Mary

    3. Really wish someone would have told me how the series ended with a whimper. Seriously kind of a let down.

    Now I'm moving on to The Wire. One episode left in Season 1, and somehow got my lady hooked on it as well.
    • CommentTimeMay 24th 2012
    Megan Ganz has confirmed a return to Community, so maybe not everything is totally utterly hopeless quite yet.