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    • CommentAuthorcjstevens
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2008 edited
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    OK proposals for a smoking licence have been suggested by the ministerial advisory board called Health England.. I know this concept probably made Warren have a mental breakdown but fear not, the living legend Charlie Brooker recently added a column ridiculing this absurd authoritarian notion on the Guardian website...
    For smokers or anyone with a sense of humour gland this is essential reading. Check it out people:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/feb/18/guardiancolumnists
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      CommentAuthorPete Martin
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2008 edited
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    and yet there is never a licence for drinkers, stopping people getting absolutely twatted and turning otherwise nice bars into twatfarms by having it taken* off you the moment you become a burk.

    In short, i've had to avoid drunks 99 times than a smoker.

    *by a bouncer. After he's broken your hands over his knee.
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      CommentAuthortedcroland
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2008
     (1077.3)
    The Law=Universally agreed upon morality dealing in physical, emotional or material harm between separate parties (or tries to be).

    Common Decency=Suggested ways to interact with people so you aren't called a cunt and get a fucking black eye.

    What is it that these people are missing about this? Next it will be illegal to not cover your face when you sneeze.
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    Rights issues aside here, is the idea that smokers can be annoyed out of smoking then ?
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      CommentAuthorChrisSick
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2008
     (1077.5)
    I like that he doesn't want to ban smoking entirely, as that would just create more contraband for criminals to traffic in. He just wants to make it really, really hard for consenting adults to do what they like. Brilliant. That C.S. Lewis quote was worth the price of admission alone.
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      CommentAuthorChrisSick
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2008
     (1077.6)
    J, that seems to be the idea, here in the States most states(and the Feds) have levied huge taxes on cigarettes in the hopes that a finical discouragement would be enough to get people to quit. So it's pretty similar, just directed differently.

    I know not what others may say, but as for me, you'll get my cigarettes after you've taken my whiskey and my guns. Good luck.
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    Never going to happen.

    Just a loose-jawed quango chairman coming up with unworkable ideas. It must be a slow-news day for the media to have even paid attention to him.
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    Also.... they already tax the bloody fuck out of cigarettes.

    I had an American girlfriend who smoked many years ago. The price of them here nearly made her faint.
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      CommentAuthorChrisSick
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2008
     (1077.9)
    Yeah, I was in London a few years back and the price scared my spine out of me, worse even than the NYC which is among the worst in this country.
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    There are not enough curse words for how angry this makes me.
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      CommentAuthorEgon
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2008
     (1077.11)
    They'd be better off with just raising prices. That's what got me to quit, if that's what their game is.
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      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2008
     (1077.12)
    Doesn't really affect me unless I visited england, but might I recommend lashing him to a bus and dragging him for a mile or two?
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    God bless the brooker. I'm just waiting for the introduction of double-speak although I've noticed it in American Teen-speak which makes me angry-mad.
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      CommentAuthorChrisSick
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2008
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    The problem with raising prices, Oct, was illustrated beautifully in NJ, where they kept increasing the cigarette taxes and rather than invest the money in anti-smoking campaigns aimed at teens and kids(as they promised) they wound up using it to balance the budget. Which is fine, except the tax is huge, and if people actually stop smoking because of it then the budget won't be balanced for long
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      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2008
     (1077.15)
    @ screaming meat:
    I try to ignore teen-speak over here as much as possible, but I notice it too when they manage to be screaming louder than my headphones on the train... makes me want to rid the planet of their foul-essence...
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2008
     (1077.16)
    So let's see, Le Grand mentioned this idea during a radio interview.

    There's little to no evidence whatsoever it has even been raised with government.

    Essentially, its a beat-up by a "smoker's rights group" that probably get 90% of their budget from RJ Reynolds.
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      CommentAuthormuse hick
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2008
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    they wheel this shit out once in a while because smokers are easier to tackle than real criminals -- try and appear as if you winning some battles because you can't win any others. poking at addicts is like shooting fish in a barrel.
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      CommentAuthorJoeViturbo
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2008
     (1077.18)
    They aren't requiring licenses to smoke in America (yet) but they are beginning to severely restrict the availability of places to smoke. I'm from Ohio and while I do not smoke, I was terribly disappointed to here that the Ohio Smoking Ban passed prohibiting smoking in public places or places of employment. Laws like these are not limited to Ohio either. All my non-smoking friends can't see the danger until I point it out to them. I'm against it because I see it as a loss of personal freedom that is a slippery slope. Where does it end?
    no smoking laws in America
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      CommentAuthorsmerwin
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2008
     (1077.19)
    @JoeViturbo:

    Criminy. Ohio too? I was there a couple years ago and loved that we didn't have to go out in the wet to smoke.
    • CommentAuthorpi8you
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2008
     (1077.20)
    That's an ugly list, good thing I don't smoke! Recently though, I read about a bar at some point north here in Minnesota that has cleverly circumvented the smoking ban. Once a month(or week?), they put on a 'stage performance' where anyone can be a performer, which allows them to smoke cigarettes as props in the performance, all with the blessing of a particular exception within the ban.

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