2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339436#Comment_339436 2012-08-31T20:06:46-07:00 2012-09-02T03:47:53-07:00 mjmartinejohn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8529

Never happy to see a creator that has been around for so long struggling on the market, but Dave put a note in the back of the last Glamour Puss stating that he has been struggling as of late to get ...

Say what you will about the man, but for someone that has given his life to the medium if saddens me to see him struggling for an audience. Is there life after Cerebus?

And what does this say about the comic book community?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339440#Comment_339440 2012-08-31T21:39:34-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 James Cunningham http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2925

In all fairness, Glamourpuss was never going to rake in a giant readership. It was a really fun experiment, but I just don't see how it could have expected much in the way of a life. I bought it ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339441#Comment_339441 2012-08-31T22:41:58-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 oddbill http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4272

Dave Sim marginalized himself with his misogyny. It is irrelevant how much he has given to the medium. He deliberately and with dedication made himself a public spectacle of the dehumanization of ...

I couldn't give two shits about his other contributions. There is lots of great art in the world.

No one deserves an audience. It's a thing you build through trust. Dave Sim spit in his audience's face. So he lost it. End of story.

What does that say about the comic book community? It says they know how much attention he deserves.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339450#Comment_339450 2012-09-01T03:03:22-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 Wood http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5205

I bought every Cerebus books, even though reading them became more and more painful as the author's insanity made its way more and more into the story. I still thought it was the work of a genius, ...

So when I saw what his new comic looked like, just by looking at the cover, my first thought was "Yup, he still has problems with women", and I just could not bring myself to buy it.

You ever had a friend who got into a weird cult or an extremist political fraction ? You used to be good friends, but now every time you meet all he does is rave about how we are now living in a feminist totalitarian dicatorship, and it's just so painful even though you can still catch glimpses of the guy he used to be, so you hang out with him less and less often until you stop seeing him at all. And now he's complaining about how he's all alone and nobody likes him anymore...]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339463#Comment_339463 2012-09-01T08:21:18-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 Argos http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7792

Yeah, on the one hand I wanted to read Cerebus because I've heard good things about it, and because I've been told about the weird shift it gradually makes as he gets a bit crazier, and also because ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339464#Comment_339464 2012-09-01T08:23:57-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 William Joseph Dunn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2798

Even if Sims didn't alienate his audience with his misogyny, I think Glamourpuss would still have a hard time getting an audience. To me, it's a blog on paper. The material might be interesting to ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339482#Comment_339482 2012-09-01T18:27:44-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 mjmartinejohn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8529

There is so much of the Dave Sim misogyny talk, and I admit I know nothing about it having only read the first half of Cerebus (maybe only the first quarter). It must have gotten really quite bad to ...

And I agree about Glamourpuss, it isn't for everyone, but I sometimes think that the titles on the fringe, the titles that are made with greater chance for the creators involved are the ones that deserve the attention, because they are trying to push the envelope, and as such should be met with a certain level of interest. Anyone know of any titles that deserve recognition and don't seem to get them??

Or creators?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339488#Comment_339488 2012-09-01T21:19:07-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 oddbill http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4272

No titles or creators deserve recognition. You produce work and try to build an audience. If things work, wonderful. If they don't, oh well. There are billions of people in the world, and millions of ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339508#Comment_339508 2012-09-02T07:24:52-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 steevo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2415

@oddbill - What? "...abandon the futile pursuit of "deserving" work."? So...stop looking for things that are good because you can't ever find all of them? Stop asking people to ...

I guess my real question is -- Does this boil down to a semantics thing? Or are you telling people not to pursue their interests because there is too much good work out there and they can't ever see it all?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339511#Comment_339511 2012-09-02T10:02:26-07:00 2012-09-02T10:28:36-07:00 oddbill http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4272

No, It's more a semantics thing I guess. I was in a bad mood last night so it looks like I phrased that in a perhaps not-very-helpful aggressive way. I think approaching things with the frame of ...

I think approaching things with the frame of mind of "does this deserve more attention than it is getting" is bad. It sets you up for resentment when you could just be enjoying it without feeling somehow it is being cheated. It makes you think other more popular things are less deserving. Just look at he way things like Twilight are reviled. I doubt I would enjoy those books, but lots of people do, for reasons no different than the ones I like many comics or science fiction stories. John Ford's Growing Up Weightless, about role-playing gamers in a moon colony, is never going to have the audience of Twilight, through I think it is a better book. Does it deserve that audience? No. It's just one book in millions, about what it is about. I just like it.

The whole framing of his thread just sets me off. The naive question of "why can't Dave Sim" find an audience which turns out to be genuine naïveté as the first poster has apparently barely read Sim and knows nothing about the hatred of women, gays and feminists he so carefully and explicitly argued in his comics. Then turning this into "who deserves more attention?"

It's just a way to add a dash of bitterness to what could otherwise have been simply, "what non-mainstream comics do you like?" And that question should go into a thread that hasn't already been poisoned with Sim's name in he title.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339513#Comment_339513 2012-09-02T10:46:42-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 steevo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2415

Fair enough. It probably would be a question better asked in another thread. Especially since I would imagine there are several people staying away from this thread specifically because Dave Sim's ...

I've not read any of Sim's work and I really don't have any interest in it, though I've heard good things about the art portion of it and bad things about the personal politics involved regarding his take on women being...you know...black holes or whatever the fuck he gets on about.

But I digress...

Just wanted to jump in and make sure we weren't starting to shout people down for expressing interest in things around here. If that happened I would be ever so sad.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339514#Comment_339514 2012-09-02T11:06:18-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 James Cunningham http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2925

Speaking as a person who bought almost every issue (I missed one or two thanks to spotty comic store supply) I agree that it didn't have any hope of finding a large audience. I was calling it a blog ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339516#Comment_339516 2012-09-02T12:26:53-07:00 2012-09-02T12:42:18-07:00 William Joseph Dunn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2798

to answer mjmartinejohn's second question, I think comics/creators that I'd wish more people would be more aware of are mostly doing webcomics. Tim Hamilton is awesome and I think he should be ...

should be huge:

http://activatecomix.com/23.comic

Cameron Stewart is a little bigger name since he's done more mainstream work than Tim Hamilton, but his webcomic "Sin Titulo" is great too:

http://www.sintitulocomic.com/2007/06/17/page-01/]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339527#Comment_339527 2012-09-02T14:49:15-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 mister hex http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4411

Little known fact - Dave Sim once micturated in Bill's breakfast. Dave Sim ... jeez. Barely HALF of Cerebus is readable. A tenth of it is GREAT (like Frosted Flakes but better.) The rest is a ...

Dave Sim ... jeez. Barely HALF of Cerebus is readable. A tenth of it is GREAT (like Frosted Flakes but better.) The rest is a bowl of soggy cereal floating in hateful luke-warm piss.

(At one point, it was almost all text, various bizarre essays & exegesis that'd make a normal reader's eyeballs bleed and even someone TRULY insane like, say, Philip K. Dick go "whoa".)

Dave Sim DID spit in the face of the audience. So did any number of musicians (Iggy Pop, for one) and yet they don't inspire the hatred and vitriol that Sim does. (His very name "poisoned" this thread, according to bill.) Hey, here's a fun question - how many fourteen year old girls do you think Mick Jagger has slept with over the years? And yet you love the Rolling Stones. Huh. Wow.

Dave Sim, love him or hate him (and I am definitely both), has done more for comics than anyone at Marvel or DC. He SAID he'd do 300 issues of Cerebus - and did. He said it'd end - it did. (He never said it'd all be worth reading. It wasn't ALL worth reading.) Without Sim, I doubt you'd see the creator-owned market as it exists now.

As to his views on women (which actually are abhorrent) - I'll paraphrase Jack Kirby - (some dude wrote some long letter, explaining to Jack why so-and-so could not POSSIBLY have taken place and how DARE he try to pass this off. Kirby's response?)

"Oh. So?"]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339531#Comment_339531 2012-09-02T15:46:06-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 William Joseph Dunn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2798

Dave Sim's problem can be summed up by this old joke: "so I went to my psychiatrist and said: hey doc, I have hard time making friends you fucking cock sucker!"

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339536#Comment_339536 2012-09-02T16:43:58-07:00 2012-09-02T16:47:56-07:00 KeeperofManyNames http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3394

@William Joseph Dunn: I suspect maybe the tendency of Sin Titulo to go on year long hiatuses might be what's holding it back from wider recognition. Thanks for bringing it up, though, I had no ...

I suspect maybe the tendency of Sin Titulo to go on year long hiatuses might be what's holding it back from wider recognition. Thanks for bringing it up, though, I had no idea it started updating again! It's dense stuff, but it's fascinating stuff all the same, and it does deserve a wider readership. ...Er, rather... it could stand to see a wider readership?

Hm. Maybe the reason "deserve" is a word we use in this context is because the alternatives are kind of awkward.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339568#Comment_339568 2012-09-03T11:11:17-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 scs http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7988

These days Sim is at his best when doing basic exposition and history such as Judenhaas and the historical sections of Glamourpuss. When he brings in analysis, it both pollutes the history and ...

Judenhaas and the historical sections of Glamourpuss. When he brings in analysis, it both pollutes the history and detracts from the story. I've been reading Glamourpuss irregularly, but mostly for the art (which is great) and the history of photorealism in comics. In Glamourpuss? plot and story are concerned are almost non-existant, and as parody of the fashion industry it's pretty weak. If I had to sum up the problems the series has in a word, it would be "unfocused."

That's the same comment I'd make of almost everything he's done since Rick's Story (Judenhass is a notable exception, but it breaks no ground in any area except in the photorealistic presentation). This isn't to say that Cerebus was ever fully focused. It was all over the map depending on Sims obsession du jour. But at least until the last 60-70 issues, things at moved along. The first early part of Going Home had some moments, but from then on it was weak satire and Sim soapbox to the end. That weak focus and mediocre satire carry forward into Glamourpuss.

Someone (Sim?) said that Cerebus' story was over at issue 200. I somewhat agree. Guys (201-219) and Rick's Story (220-231) were usually entertaining and sometimes compelling, even when Sim was being self-indulgent. But they were mostly stories where Cerebus happened to be a participant, they weren't Cerebus stories except that they relied on the first 200 issues to provide setting and situation. Starting with Going Home, Cerebus was mostly a systematic shedding of what had gone before, a series of meandering and ill-conceived artistic analyses, and a lot of poorly thought-out axe grinding. Sad, sad, sad.

Having said that, let's get back to the topic. Sim is having trouble getting people to pay attention for two reasons.

First, his current work (Glamourpuss) is rarely interesting in and of itself. Nothing grabs you unless you're interested in history of comics, and even that is kind of obliquely approached. This was been a problem with Cerebus since 1998 started Going Home. From there forward, there are only two moments that really stick in my head - Cerebus and Jaka walking through the array of Cirinists, and when Cerebus realizes that his father is dead. That's not much for five years of work. Second, since 1998 he's consistently produced stories that do not reward deeper reading - in fact, deeper reading and independent research into the topics he covers (Hemingway, F. Scott Fitzgerald, religion, etc) reveals how flawed his analyses are.

Taken together, it's a fourteen-year record of work that is uninteresting on the surface and a failure at deeper levels. IMHO it's no surprise that interest in his newer work keeps dropping.

There's no question that Sim is one of the giants of the field, both as artist and as a mover and shaker. But unless he comes out of the intellectual black hole he's built, his career is largely over. I'll keep buying occasionally in hopes that he levels up, but I'm not holding my breath.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339571#Comment_339571 2012-09-03T14:00:27-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 oddbill http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4272

@mister hex - He didn't micturate he expectorated. And it wasn't my breakfast it was a late brunch. Facts matter!

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339577#Comment_339577 2012-09-03T18:32:13-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 mister hex http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4411

@ scs - Thank you for reading Cerebus. Sorry you had to read Cerebus. (I gave up. I love comics but it's a commitment. To someone who oughtta be commited.) The dizzying highs, the tedious lows, I ...

I enjoyed Glamorpuss but I'm not surprised the market didn't support it. I'm glad he did something after Cerebus that wasn't Cerebus.

@oddbill - I knew that but I needed it to be pee and breakfast to make my soggy cereal analogy work. You're right, of course, facts matter.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339578#Comment_339578 2012-09-03T19:24:22-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 andycon http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10109

*has read the entirety of Cerebus multiple times, possibly more than Sim himself* I think I might be one of a handful. I guess what really surprised me from the glamourpuss letter was the fact ...

I think I might be one of a handful.

I guess what really surprised me from the glamourpuss letter was the fact that up until the last few years Sim had been able to live off of the sales of High Society-Church And State II.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339581#Comment_339581 2012-09-03T20:33:50-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 mjmartinejohn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8529

Okay, so I read Cerebus years and years ago. And only about a half of it. And I retain little information for long (just my brain), and I don't remember reading anything particularly harmful towards ...

I picked up a couple of issues of Glamourpuss, the last one having a letter in it that I found quite shocking. Despite what you may think of Dave Sim, he has given his life to a body of work, has dedicated himself to a medium and it seems like few give a shit. Sure Glamourpuss isn't going to be breaking any records of any sort, but it is a testament of love for the medium, and the work of a madman. So, I decided to get some opinions as to why someone whom I haven't read a whole hell of a lot about, but who seems to care about the medium, and has some talent in some fashion has been tossed to the curb. Question answered.

@oddbill My questions may not seem overly related, or that well thought out, and they aren't, but I'm asking them all the same, because I'm curious about them. I didn't realize that each and every question on a message board had to be interrelated, my goal was to promote discussion on a topic that was bothering me. And sure my attention shifted halfway through, but I do believe that (in my mind) it is related. Indie creators have a hard time letting people know their work is around (as you've mentioned), and as Dave Sim is a major contemporary figure in comics I thought we might discuss the creators that aren't damned for their politics, and are plugging away at work in relative obscurity for the LOVE of the medium.

Sure I am shifting attention away from the topic I chose, but if Dave Sim is damned to go down for his politics (as the majority seems to have pointed their thumbs down) than perhaps it is better to discuss those that are worth talking about. @william Thanks for the suggestions, I've read a little of Sin Titulo, but I have never read any of Tim Hamilton's works. I have a hard time reading comics on a screen.

Or we could talk more about Dave Sim, and why I should be convinced to revisit his major body of work?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339584#Comment_339584 2012-09-03T20:43:56-07:00 2012-09-03T20:44:12-07:00 oddbill http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4272

he has given his life to a body of work, has dedicated himself to a medium And I'm arguing that this is utterly valueless and worth nothing, nor should it in and of itself be worth anything. If ...

he has given his life to a body of work, has dedicated himself to a medium

And I'm arguing that this is utterly valueless and worth nothing, nor should it in and of itself be worth anything. If someone devotes themselves to an activity to the exclusion of most of the rest of life, that is not something worthy of praise for itself. That "Despite what you may think" that you preface it with is, in fact, the only part that matters. Not that someone spent their life making comics, but what comics did they make.

Look, Charles Crumb spent most of his life scribbling in notebooks like this:



then he died. Nobody cares. Nor should they.

Devoting your life to something does not confer worth onto that thing, or the monomaniacal devotion to it. If it drives you to reclusion (or is a symptom of mental disorder), that is not ennobling.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339586#Comment_339586 2012-09-03T20:57:34-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 mjmartinejohn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8529

Truth in those words @oddbill. I see your point. I would argue that point though, as it seems like a somewhat nihilistic take on the world. I give worth to those things that I deem worth my ...

I have no idea who Charles Crumb is, I like Robert Crumb (as my mania is fixated on comics,) so the fact that he wrote a bunch of shit in books means absolutely nothing to me at all, but for someone it is probably the bees knees, they confer the worth onto his work with their will as I have done with Dave Sim's.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339588#Comment_339588 2012-09-03T21:01:05-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 oddbill http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4272

Charles Crumb is Robert's brother. You should watch the documentary Crumb.

Crumb.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339589#Comment_339589 2012-09-03T21:02:04-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 mjmartinejohn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8529

I have. That memory is just not doing it for me. Zwigoff.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339590#Comment_339590 2012-09-03T21:04:48-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 mjmartinejohn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8529

Or should I say my memory is not doing it for me. I remember now that you've mentioned it. I forget about 90% of everything that I read. Shame really, but I blame it on the drugs.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339591#Comment_339591 2012-09-03T21:05:12-07:00 2012-09-03T21:05:41-07:00 oddbill http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4272

How can you have watched that film and not remember Charles? He is such a huge part of the film. Robert throughout is constantly talking about how much he thinks his brother Charles is a better ...

(edit: posted before your second post appeared.)]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339603#Comment_339603 2012-09-04T02:38:21-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 kperkins http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=456

Oh well, Ray Petibon used to be "Greg Ginn's brother", now it seems to be the other way around. Such is the vagaries of life. It's a crap shoot. People take to some things, and not ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339839#Comment_339839 2012-09-08T18:32:42-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 mjmartinejohn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8529

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/09/07/dave-sim-career-end-point-doomsday-scenario-glamourpuss-cancelation/

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/09/07/dave-sim-career-end-point-doomsday-scenario-glamourpuss-cancelation/]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339847#Comment_339847 2012-09-08T22:47:35-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 James Cunningham http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2925

So very grim, but he's right about it being "doomed to failure from Day 1." It was a vanity project, albeit a gorgeously illustrated one, but I honestly don't know a single person who ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339853#Comment_339853 2012-09-09T02:07:53-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 Wood http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5205

I could tell Dave Sim was getting desperate a few years ago already, when Cerebus started getting published in France, which meant Sim handed over control over his work to a publisher.

started getting published in France, which meant Sim handed over control over his work to a publisher.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339981#Comment_339981 2012-09-11T11:19:13-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 Wood http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5205

Meanwhile... Kim Thompson And Eric Reynolds Basically Make An Open Offer To Publish Dave Sim

Kim Thompson And Eric Reynolds Basically Make An Open Offer To Publish Dave Sim]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339982#Comment_339982 2012-09-11T11:32:10-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 William Joseph Dunn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2798

maybe if Sim wants to continue publishing Glamourpuss, he should sell the early Cerebus books digitally and have Glamourpuss as a backup feature as an "added value". this way work of his ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=339989#Comment_339989 2012-09-11T12:34:49-07:00 2012-09-11T12:35:10-07:00 James Cunningham http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2925

I was actually talking about Glamourpuss to the guy at my local comic store the other day, and he was talking about how he managed to sell it to women 15-25 or so- as a fashion comic. The clothes ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=340031#Comment_340031 2012-09-12T12:55:43-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 Argos http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7792

Kind of ironic. It really is great illustration, though. Much as I can't stand what he has to say about my ilk, I can't deny him his talents.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=340122#Comment_340122 2012-09-13T16:32:37-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 mister hex http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4411

I own a fanzine (circa ... 1972? 1975? Not sure, ain't seen it in a while) with early Sim artwork. "Crude" is one word to describe it but ... there's something THERE. His art has developed ...

@ James - I agree, there's a market for what he's done. The Comics Market is apparently not it. And as an infrequent purchaser of Glamourpuss, I never really got what he was talking about with the strips that I never saw and were before my time. Had he I don't know, done a strip about the sweat-shop bullpen days of early comics (or even just early Marvel) I would've read the SHIT outta that.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=340398#Comment_340398 2012-09-17T07:27:56-07:00 2012-09-17T07:29:18-07:00 mister hex http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4411

Now THIS is interesting ... http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/front-page-comic-news/62513-dave-sim-mark-millar.html

http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/front-page-comic-news/62513-dave-sim-mark-millar.html]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=340495#Comment_340495 2012-09-18T10:01:27-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 mjmartinejohn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8529

Maybe Sim just wants to bitch and moan. Slapping back offers to help is not cool.

bitch and moan. Slapping back offers to help is not cool.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=340504#Comment_340504 2012-09-18T11:22:54-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 andycon http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10109

well to his credit he didnt completely dismiss them, just said there are a lot of factors that need to be thought through. also when an offer is kinda/sorta/totally insulting to 1/3 of your life's ...

also when an offer is kinda/sorta/totally insulting to 1/3 of your life's work I'd get a bit defensive as well.

I just love how in the middle he goes off on this crazy hemmingway/Fitzgerald ramble that only Dave Sim can. The guy really needs an agent/manager to listen to his ramblings and break them down into normal people responses. Basically he needs to hire his ex-wife to come back and run the business end of things again. (From what it looks like from the kickstarter e-mails she is going to be doing a bunch of audio stuff for the ebooks so it seems they are back on good terms again)]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10813&Focus=341808#Comment_341808 2012-10-07T11:47:20-07:00 2013-05-18T08:40:08-07:00 Wood http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5205

Meanwhile : IDW to publish complete collection of Cerebus covers in 2013

IDW to publish complete collection of Cerebus covers in 2013]]>