2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339721#Comment_339721 2012-09-06T08:43:08-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 Horrible Warning Si http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1223

It's Thursday, it's mid-afternoon in London, it's another wrongheaded morning in Mericky, it's who-the-fuck-knows-when in Australia, and it's time for more Crossed Hideosity. Episode 20, live and ...

Episode 20, live and free-to-air.

Remember: Not safe for work, not safe for minors, not safe for people of a nervous disposition, not safe for gingham pleats, not safe for strongboxes, not safe for beer-swilling-slugs.

ISSALLGONHORRID]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339723#Comment_339723 2012-09-06T08:46:36-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 nelzbub http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10569

Shaky you devious bastard.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339726#Comment_339726 2012-09-06T09:24:59-07:00 2012-09-06T10:43:51-07:00 Dethklok http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10805

And I hate Shaky now. The thing about survival situations, even ones as fucked up as Crossed, is that everyone has to come together and pull in the same direction. But Shaky keeps rocking the ...

The thing about survival situations, even ones as fucked up as Crossed, is that everyone has to come together and pull in the same direction. But Shaky keeps rocking the boat. Cheating the lottery the first time was not cool, but understandable. Relatively no hard feelings, considering the circumstances. Buying off Don with Sofia ...slippery slope, but all right. But this? I think Shaky may need to watch himself. Setting a Crossed on Rab is asking for trouble, as the man seems like a hardass.

The thing that is more worrying is the food supply. If the Crossed virus can survive processing by fish that eat dead Crossed in the water, the survivors are up the creek. No telling how common/uncommon the delayed reaction to the fish is. Reminds me of the 1st Crossed trade w/ the Crossed soaking their bullets in semen to carry the virus further and troll people.

Thing is, Shaky is trying awful hard to avoid the lottery. But what I've noticed about Crossed as a theme in the books so far is an odd mix of 'light at the end of the tunnel/fucked up shit'.

Crossed trade #1: Stan and Cindy recieve closure about Cindy's dead son and grow closer. They also have a friendly dog with them. Bad news: everyone else dies.

Crossed trade #2: The father of the family was some jumped up religious rapist and child abuser. He got what was coming to him when the Crossed attacked their compound in the mountains. Bad news: the mother of the family deliberately infected herself and is now hunting the ones who got away. Good news: the survivors manage to escape a mass Crossed attack and find their horses again at the end of the story.

Crossed trade #3: The survivors in that story find a man who may know about a cure to the virus. Bad news: He's a lying psycho who killed everyone except for the Final Girl.

Long explanation, I know, but it fits a pattern. I get the feeling that given the focus in this story to Shaky skipping over the lottery, he might get exactly what he wanted, but be miserable by the story's end. He might escape the lottery, but everyone else finds out what he did and exile him from the island for being a snake. Or the Crossed invade Cava and kill everyone there and the ones out on the recon mission live.

That's the thing about Crossed. You think you might win, then life fucks with ya.

Thoughts?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339727#Comment_339727 2012-09-06T10:08:38-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 Malkydel http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10828

Definitely agree. It looks like we might be working up towards everyone turning on Shaky rather than just to the Lottery. Then he's screwed. You try so hard to run away from something that you end up ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339728#Comment_339728 2012-09-06T10:23:06-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 Horrible Warning Si http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1223

[snigger]

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339731#Comment_339731 2012-09-06T10:53:34-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 Malkydel http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10828

That is a snigger of both evil and foreboding. It ought to be in red jagged font

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339744#Comment_339744 2012-09-06T13:26:39-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 Tundra http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10838

Trading TF2 Earbuds for "Red Jagged Font"

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339746#Comment_339746 2012-09-06T13:32:10-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 twentythoughts http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7347

It's not like this is a promise that Shakey can enforce. Shakey gets chosen for the sortie, what's he going to say? "But I threatened to not shoot the crossed kid that was slobbering on you so ...

In fact, this is more reason for them to get Shakey OFF the island, on the sortie. He's both proven to be the kinda guy who can calmly watch a plusface attack, but who's also downright dangerous to keep around. If I were Rabb, I'd want him far away from me. Because if he's willing to do THAT, then who knows what he'll do to get other privileges?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339748#Comment_339748 2012-09-06T13:47:53-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 ErikCJones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8341

He HAS to end up on the sortie, now that the two "leaders" on the island know he's only out for himself while they try to imagine that everyone's on the same team. That's something i've ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339757#Comment_339757 2012-09-06T15:51:47-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 Dethklok http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10805

Erik, the Crossed do NOT make better teams than the survivors. In the Crossed: Family Values trade, there's a scene that shows the Crossed mentality and dynamic. A survivor was watching a pack of ...

But I think that Shaky fucked himself on this one. He wants to live so badly, but he's a coward at heart. He can't hack it on his own like that crazy guy who comes to Cava to trade, Jackson, can. He can't maintain vital machinery, he can't shoot like a champion. He's not mentally ferocious. There's too much of the old world still left in him, where those qualities we as the readers are now starting to hate would amount to really nothing because the world is sane.

I think Rab has to get him now. Shaky crossed the line in a lot of ways, including using an actual Crossed on him. Rab can never turn his back on him now as he did in the watchtower.

IDEA! Perfect ending to the story IMO would be if Shaky is forced onto the recon mission and somehow ends up infected. He makes his way back to the area around Cava because even if he is Crossed, he remembers everything. He then dies by drowning in the harsh current around Cava, or he's shot. End of story. Wheel has turned.

Thoughts, Si?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339761#Comment_339761 2012-09-06T17:06:53-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 K1i1 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10851

The way I think it's going is- Shaky, through sheer deviousness born out of cowardice, makes it off the sortie. While the sortie's away, the Crossed attack, leaving Shaky the sole survivor, left safe ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339776#Comment_339776 2012-09-07T00:21:42-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 curb http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1334

That was a nicely tense episode. That slowly descending strand of drool from Boy's mouth? Brrr... This story is set to run for a couple of years, right?

This story is set to run for a couple of years, right?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339777#Comment_339777 2012-09-07T02:46:46-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 Horrible Warning Si http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1223

*The webcomic* is set to run for a couple of years, yes. I make no comment regarding story or character.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339779#Comment_339779 2012-09-07T06:06:24-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 fenrir07 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10857

Hello all! I've read most of the various crossed series and I find them to be, basically, the story of the Wold War II holocaust, only it never gets as far as allied victory. Like, say, the Warsaw ...

I've read most of the various crossed series and I find them to be, basically, the story of the Wold War II holocaust, only it never gets as far as allied victory. Like, say, the Warsaw Ghetto the situation will gradually worsen until it reaches the unthinkable and most of the people will die. One or two might slip away in the sewers to an unknown fate.

I follow the story with great interest but I of course assume the people on Cava are as doomed as the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339781#Comment_339781 2012-09-07T06:27:50-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 ErikCJones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8341

Dethklok, I see your points but i'm sticking to my guns. Fucked up though they may be, the Crossed are a community that is self sufficient. They can be fooled like any other gang (as in Psychopath) ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339784#Comment_339784 2012-09-07T07:53:13-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 Dethklok http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10805

Just noticed that whenever there's a skip week with a interlude with Shaky's journal, the 'Dear Reader' picture is always a group of Crossed surrounding a tall post with a ladder out of reach. Could ...

It may not even be Shaky. Hell, Shaky might end up at the end of this tale off scot-free. You have to remember. This is Crossed. Sometimes the bastard wins. And the Crossed win anyway.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339785#Comment_339785 2012-09-07T08:14:34-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 ErikCJones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8341

Agreed. I love the picture of the lone survivor surrounded by Crossed. When I saw that in the back of one of the single issues I was all in.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339787#Comment_339787 2012-09-07T09:03:40-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739

I can tell the art team's having a lot of fun with the "gamescreeper." He's hideous. More thoughts on Shaky, but I'll reserve judgment for now. It does appeal to the anti-fascist in me.

More thoughts on Shaky, but I'll reserve judgment for now. It does appeal to the anti-fascist in me.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339793#Comment_339793 2012-09-07T10:27:15-07:00 2012-09-07T10:27:35-07:00 twentythoughts http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7347

Re: Strand of crossed kid drool: Great. Now I want to see a Crossed doing the dangling-a-glob-of-spit-over-someone's-face thing that kids do to gross out someone they've got pinned down.

Great. Now I want to see a Crossed doing the dangling-a-glob-of-spit-over-someone's-face thing that kids do to gross out someone they've got pinned down.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339803#Comment_339803 2012-09-07T12:18:01-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 curb http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1334

Spit if you're lucky.

lucky.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339813#Comment_339813 2012-09-07T14:34:10-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 tomrahster http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10836

Ok, didn't see that coming. Liked the comment "whatever horrors took his voice went deeper than the change." Made me wonder what stays with someone when they become the Crossed, and what ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339896#Comment_339896 2012-09-09T21:13:20-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 Rootfireember http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1551

Stories sound so much LONGER when it's put in the amount of time it takes to make them. Reading collections, novels and whatnot, it's easy to forget that there's a fair amount of time and effort that ...

....shitcakes. I'm gonna be reading this for years. My mind'll be warped...]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339920#Comment_339920 2012-09-10T07:15:11-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 blighty http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10752

@tomrahster: The Crossed basically do remember everything from before they turned(in previous series they fly jets, earlier in Wish You Were Here they operate tanks, etc). Most of the time they don't ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339927#Comment_339927 2012-09-10T09:15:59-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 texture http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1472

Shaky did what he had to do. It'll end up fucking him though, for sure. What's in the basement?

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339930#Comment_339930 2012-09-10T10:04:26-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 johnjones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1052

@ blighty That's one of the worst things about the Crossed. They still think. They still remember. The person that they used to be is still in there, unlike your typical zombie. It just that ...

That's one of the worst things about the Crossed. They still think. They still remember. The person that they used to be is still in there, unlike your typical zombie. It just that what's in there is the worst possible version of that person.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339940#Comment_339940 2012-09-10T15:42:06-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 tomrahster http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10836

@blighty: Thanks for that info. I haven't read any of the other Crossed stories. If they'd come out a decade ago, I'm sure I would have bought the books, but now I'm a dad with 4 little kids, I ...

A Crossed version of Archie...that would make an interesting cover...]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339953#Comment_339953 2012-09-10T19:58:53-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 johnjones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1052

This is probably as close as you're going to get.

]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339973#Comment_339973 2012-09-11T06:04:40-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 ddavie http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10855

As warped as it probably makes me, I could read trade size volumes of this every day. "Crossed" - as different, violent and every other type of psychotic is one of the better story lines, ...

(Oh yeah - meant to ask last week but what the hell is "whelking"? Shaky gets the job from Rab and I assume it's one of the shittiest you can have on Cava - but is it actually collecting snails? Or I'm guessing there's a far grosser meaning / slang definition overseas. Thanks!!)]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=339985#Comment_339985 2012-09-11T11:51:05-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 Joe B http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=940

Whether the others believe the kid got out on his own or not, Shaky has got to start watching his back. Everyone knows he tried to fix the lottery from the portrait incident. I could see Don saying ...

The thing with being a survivor in any type of eschaton level of event is the need to be able to trust that your fellow survivors have your back. You may not agree on much of anything, you may not personally like the other person; but until the circumstances allow a change in groups it's best to deal. And Rab strikes me as the type to not let the shit that Shaky just pulled go without some serious payback.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=340055#Comment_340055 2012-09-13T04:28:16-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 Kosmopolit http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1346

I half-expect the series to end with Shaky writing in his diary atop the ladder surrounded by The Crossed. As to my guess for what's in the basement: the person or person who's been caring the ...

As to my guess for what's in the basement: the person or person who's been caring the nursing home inamtes. I seriously doubt they'll survive the encounter with the gameskeeper and his group.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=340056#Comment_340056 2012-09-13T05:07:31-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 stevefrank http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10849

Lot of characters are interesting to do this....

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10826&Focus=340072#Comment_340072 2012-09-13T10:38:49-07:00 2013-05-24T19:44:51-07:00 No Fear http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10811

re Shaky, chapter 21 really has a twist.