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CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 21

Horrible Warning Si — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:10:59 -0700

It's Thursday, it's mid-afternoon in London, it's another wrongheaded morning in Mericky, it's who-the-fuck-knows-when in Australia, and it's time for more Crossed Hideosity.

Episode 21, live and free-to-air.

Remember: Not safe for work, not safe for minors, not safe for people of a nervous disposition, not safe for Lipsy London, not safe for fat arses, not safe for box-shaped animals.

ANNUNOFYOOSAWITKUMMIN

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ErikCJones — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:28:14 -0700

Shaky, you smug bastard.

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Oddcult — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:56:54 -0700

Totally called it.

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Horrible Warning Si — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:59:26 -0700

You're Psibreaker on Twitter?

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Oddcult — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:31:12 -0700

Who? Me? No.

Just, you know, in my head.

Not Psibreaker in my head. I called it in my head.

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curb — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:17:49 -0700

Haha, did not see that coming! Nice curveball, Si!

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twentythoughts — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:58:32 -0700

Ha. Makes perfect sense, really... As mentioned earlier, Rab can no longer afford to have Shaky around there. So he'd WANT it to turn out Shaky's way.

If Shaky played it that way, then he's way trickier than I thought.

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Malkydel — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:12:48 -0700

Didn't see it coming, even though on reflection it makes perfect sense- the trying so damn hard.

I liked the little touches in this episode; like when Don starts out all bombastic. The first two letters of Tabitha are bolder, his enthusiasm seems to leech away just as soon as he realizes who's been picked.

Very interested now to see the justifications behind Shaky wanting to be back out.

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mister hex — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:55:58 -0700

Did. NOT see that coming.

WILL say, without fear of contradiction, that BAD SHIT is gonna happen.

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Alan Tyson — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:16:56 -0700

I had the slightest feeling that Shaky was playing a game with us, but I didn't actually expect this.

Oh. Oh GOD. Did he make sure they picked Tabitha, too? We didn't actually see her name come up. Does Shaky want a little "just us and the end of the world, eh girl?" time with the pretty art girl?

...or. OR. Is he making sure everyone who clearly won't survive much longer on the island gets off it, maybe to get somewhere better? Is Shaky as bad a guy as he seems, or is that a misdirect, too?

Shaky, you bastard. I don't know what the hell to do with you, I really don't.

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Purple Wyrm — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:38:32 -0700

As soon as Tabitha's name came up, I started wondering. Sneaky, sneaky bastard. Can't wait to find out how it goes down next week.

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fenrir07 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:45:50 -0700

The sortie will be interesting. We'll probably see more of the übercrossed.. Shakes' will make it back, ofc. Maybe Tabs too, maybe not. Selina and Viceroy, it's buhbye time for them.

I reckon Sister Teresa will finish off Baldy... :)

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twentythoughts — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 01:48:54 -0700

Just going to mention here that just because a story starts out from someone's viewpoint, that's no guarantee that they're going to survive. See the "A Song of Ice and Fire" series. That series just loves killing important narrators.

Potential scenario 1: Shaky dies or flees or gets lost, someone else finds his diary, continues the narration method that way.

Potential (and much more hilarious/vicious/evil) scenario 2: Shaky becomes crossed, keeps crossed-narrating through bloodstained (edit: and semen-stained) scribbles in the diary.

Potential scenario 3: Shaky dies or flees or gets lost, and the diary narration goes away.

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longtimelurker — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 03:45:02 -0700

Surprising and satisfying.

Bet Des doesn't take it lightly and seeks some form of revenge.

The introduction of the nun character is just too much. She's even called Sister Theresa! "We have to feed the Crossed, they're victims of sin." Too funny!

I also agree Shaky's survival is by no means guaranteed. The entire story is about his transformation from a noble coward to a ruthless leader. Stands to reason he could turn Crossed and become Cava's primary villain.

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longtimelurker — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 03:59:25 -0700

@Alan Tyson

I would say no. Don picked out Tabitha's name, and I don't see Rab confiding to Don what Shaky did, because Don would have simply found a way to weasel out of it.

Actually Tabitha is doomed, a horrible death which will lead a heartbroken Shaky to take comfort in Seline, you betcha! LOL

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longtimelurker — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 04:01:05 -0700

"WILL say, without fear of contradiction, that BAD SHIT is gonna happen."

It's great to have you back, Hex.

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longtimelurker — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 04:20:53 -0700

@Malkydel

"his enthusiasm seems to leech away just as soon as he realizes who's been picked."

Yeah, you can almost hear him thinking, "Shit, who's gonna paint my royal portraits now?"

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twentythoughts — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 04:24:01 -0700

Also, if Shaky DOES turn crossed, I fully expect to see a repeat of the "introducing the different personalities on the island" thing they've been doing on break weeks from a Crossed perspective.

"SKIPP old dreads toilet plunger runsway in boat SINK BOAT kill skipp got plan

star on chest gonna fuck through it with propelr"

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Matt Timson — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 04:52:11 -0700

I successfully called it last week. Right after Si spoiled it for me in the pub.

:D

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Horrible Warning Si — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:27:22 -0700

The moral of Timson's story is that everyone should buy me drinks all the time.

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Berserker — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:58:12 -0700

It IS an interesting question - just HOW MUCH did Shaky 'rig' this draw?

WE never see ANY of the slips with other people's names on them, so we have to take it for granted ( so far, anyway ) that they were genuine. Like Malkydel pointed out, Don seemed a little taken off guard when he read off Tabitha's draw. Or maybe he was just trying to power through 'reading' a lie?

If Shaky did rig ALL the names, why did he choose two of the most feeble candidates on the island? Was this Don and Rab's way of fucking him back? Or worse, did Shaky choose them knowing they'd be easy pickings if/when they do encounter Crossed on the sortie, and hopefully give him time to escape while the plussies have their fun with them?

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stanandcindy — Sat, 15 Sep 2012 02:36:35 -0700

I kinda guessed Shaky was going on the sortie but I am surprised that he wanted in on it. I suppose he may want to escape the mind boggling tedium of daily life on Cava for a brief period of time. Alternatively, he may have something else up his sleeve. Perhaps there is someone or something on the mainland that he needs to see / obtain? We never got an explanation for the flashing light. Maybe he wants to check that out?

I wonder if Jackson will be going?

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twentythoughts — Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:32:17 -0700

Y'know, come to think of it, there is a little bit of plothole/misdirection in the way Shaky acted, if he wanted to be in the sortie from the start.

If Shaky wanted to ensure being picked, how exactly was he supposed to accomplish that (without being caught) by rigging the draw? The only way he could make sure that his name was picked, would be to either toss out all but four paper slips, or to write his name on all but three paper slips. Either way would be noticed, no question about it. The only reason one could have for opening the vote box or whatever, would be to remove your own name.

I guess I could be willing to file this in either the "character didn't think something through initially/was a dumbass" drawer, or figure that he changed his mind after the first attempt.

Or Shaky could just be so obsessed about getting his way that he decided he'd rig the vote the OTHER way once the "staying on Cava" plan failed.

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taphead — Sat, 15 Sep 2012 08:36:53 -0700

By getting caught trying to rig the vote. Risky, but apparently paid off.

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twentythoughts — Sat, 15 Sep 2012 09:59:05 -0700

I don't quite buy that. It doesn't even make much sense as a Batman Gambit.

But hey. Crazy world, crazy people.

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johnjones — Sat, 15 Sep 2012 10:30:29 -0700

I don't quite buy that. It doesn't even make much sense as a Batman Gambit.

Sure it does. People cannot stand cheaters. You catch someone attempting to rig the lottery, what's your reaction? You want to make sure it goes against them. Remember that with the stones and Don, we never hear Shaky say "I want you to get me out of the lottery." For some reason, Shaky desperately wants to go on the sortie. So, he makes sure to get caught trying to rig the lottery. He also uses the stones to try to buy the result he wants. Finally he did the thing to Rab to ensure that Rab hated/feared him enough to put him on the sortie and get him off the island.

We've never actually seen how Shaky came to Cava. Isn't it possible that he's part of another group? A group that wants Cava's supplies? And that he's on Cava as a spy, learning layout, the people, the defenses? Now he needs to come back to his real group to give over that information. Who knows, maybe this other group is actually a gang of more self-controlled Crossed and Shaky is the "pet normal" they send in to blend in, learn things and otherwise open the way for them to come in and have their fun...

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Alan Tyson — Sat, 15 Sep 2012 10:58:48 -0700

And that he's on Cava as a spy, learning layout, the people, the defenses?

This could be why he keeps all those dossiers in the journal. I mean, yes, he's a writer and he needs to write, I can understand that perfectly. And Si needs to introduce us to the other characters during skip weeks, I also understand that.

But what if it's NOT just skip-week filler? What if the skip-weeks ARE the plot?

I don't think I actually believe that this is the case, but it's interesting to think about nevertheless.

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twentythoughts — Sat, 15 Sep 2012 11:04:38 -0700

True. I did say earlier that if Shaky played it so that they'd have no choice but to put him on the sortie, he was hella clever. I just assumed then that when he finally put forth his threat to Rabb, he demanded exactly what he wanted.

The theory that Shaky is a mole is a decent one. It even fits with the title. Wish you were here, right? At that, it makes even more sense that he'd want weak people with him.