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    • CommentAuthorArgos
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012
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    just seen on twitter as a RT: "If Obama is re-elected Ok needs to succeed from the union." Along with some other tweets about "succeeding"
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    I swear, I have to figure this out every 4 years... What's the difference between a Regular Vote and an Electoral Vote?
    You vote for who you want and each state is divided into areas, whoever gets the most votes in that area get an Electoral Vote, right? Or am I completely off?

    EDIT: I'm a Canadian so I can't vote, but I always get a good laugh out of watching the political race on cross border TV and always get a little nervous as the results can have an actual impact on my country.
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    just seen on twitter as a RT: "If Obama is re-elected Ok needs to succeed from the union." Along with some other tweets about "succeeding"


    Can we just let them succeed already?
    • CommentAuthorArgos
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012 edited
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    @warped servant - you're about right on the difference.

    edit: to elaborate - each state is worth a different amount of electoral votes. Some as few as 3, some as many as 20. The popular vote determines who gets that states' electoral votes.
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      CommentAuthorOsmosis
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012
     (10833.5)
    Goose Island Honker's Ale, BBC late night coverage and a guy on my left insanely connected to Twitter.

    Right now it's 78-89 the wrong way, but let's be honest, it's early yet.
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    No surprises so far, but I think it be a long night.
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      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012
     (10833.7)
    It's early, and the really interesting states (Ohio, Colorado, Virginia, among others) still haven't been called.
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      CommentAuthorOsmosis
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012
     (10833.8)
    Although everyone in the buildup (in the UK at least) was focused on Ohio, Florida is the one to watch. It's currently absolutely neck and neck.
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      CommentAuthoroldhat
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012
     (10833.9)
    This is actually kind of terrifying with how close it's getting...
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    If somehow Obama wins Florida though, it can shut Mittens down early. Not likely, but they're are saying the new demographic of non Cuban Latinos makes it possible.
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      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012
     (10833.11)
    Florida is making me drink faster. I started this night with a full bottle of Kraken. I'm starting to wish I'd bought another one.
    • CommentAuthor256
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012 edited
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    @Warped, Argos - each state has a number of electoral votes that it delivers (all of) to the candidate who won the popular vote in that state. congressional elections are districted, but presidential ones are not.

    the number of electoral votes that each state has is assigned by black magic.
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    So... wait.... if Romney gets 51% of of the votes in a states that has 13 Electoral Votes then he gets all 13 E. Votes?
    That seems so very wrong...

    And the Electoral Votes per state aren't determined by the amount of eligible voters / people that live there?
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      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012
     (10833.14)
    At least theoretically, it's based on population. Typically, states with more populous cities will also have more electoral college votes.
    • CommentAuthor256
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012 edited
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    checking something on the wikipedias, it emerges that (some?) states can split their electoral vote - nebraska in 2008, for example - but very rarely do.

    and yeah, you can make a convincing argument that it's a pretty shitty system. but when you look into the (long, convoluted) history of how it ended up like that, and some of the alternatives, you can sort of see how it happened.

    edit: pennsylvania!
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      CommentAuthortaphead
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012
     (10833.16)
    And all the bars have now closed, so am out of potables.

    HALP
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    But... couldn't you, fairly realistically, have 60% of the votes go to the person that lost?
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      CommentAuthorOsmosis
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012
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    I'm told (out-political geeked for once) that Nebraska and Maine split their electoral college votes proportionally.
    • CommentAuthorArgos
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012
     (10833.19)
    Yes, and that's why most people want to get rid of the electoral vote system. Cos it's poo poo.
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      CommentAuthorOsmosis
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012
     (10833.20)
    @Warped - completely possible to get a minority in the popular vote and a majority in the electoral vote. It's a consequence of a limited area first past the post system - it's also possible here in the UK (and I think has happened here).

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