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    It's Thursday, it's mid-afternoon in London, it's another wrongheaded morning in Mericky, it's who-the-fuck-knows-when in Australia, and it's time for more Crossed Hideosity.

    Episode 25, live and free-to-air.

    Remember: Not safe for work, not safe for minors, not safe for people of a nervous disposition, not safe for celery, not safe for postcards, not safe for Rye Whisky.

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    Viceroy is a complete liability. What the hell was he playing at with that child? Any views on Jackson? Is he going to stay with the sortie? He was meant to hang around until they got to Kelso but he's forgotten to pack his sheep.

    The gamekeeper is loathsome but he sort of had a point. They couldn't sit around in the old folks home 'ad infinitum' could they?
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2012
    The Gamekeeper really is a fucking monster. Looking forward to seeing if/how he meets his end. I hope he does, because a Crossed Gamekeeper sounds bloody terrifying.
    • CommentAuthorDethklok
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2012
    Agree, Viceroy is a fucking idiot. If he thinks any Crossed, even a child, is no threat, let him get off the island and stay out in the wastelands. See how long he lasts.

    Although the Crossed child in the cold freezing to death was a good touch. It reminded me of a rattlesnake. The kid was in dire straits, in rags and wounded. Probably had frostbite. And still could get the energy to attack. It's amazing, in a way.

    The Gameskeeper...I have a feeling he's going to step too far, be too ruthless, and it will snap back at him. Sounding the alarm for the Crossed at the home was not a smart play. A lot more Crossed cound have swarmed the area and the group could have been found out. I think the Gameskeeper has proven himself too volatile. He knocked out the Pakistani kid to draw everyone out of the home. What if a Crossed had come across the boy, knocked out? The GK made him helpless. He needs to go.
    • CommentAuthorMrMonk
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2012
    More importantly, knocking out the Pakistani kid and lying about his condition, got Sister Teresa out of the home.
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    The Gamekeeper is a romantic at heart, risking life and limb (well, the boy's life and limb, anyway) for the Nun of his dreams.

    Have a feeling Viceroy is out there in serial killer territory. Of course, it's all relative when you live with the Crossed!
    • CommentAuthorfenrir07
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2012
    Viceroy made it. I thought this episode would have been the end of him (I do still think he'll be the first to die from this bunch though).
    Figure it'll be curtains for the Creepy Gamekeeper soon too...

    ...tip of the hat to the team behind the comic. Looking forward to the next episode... :)
    • CommentAuthorNo Fear
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2012
    It will be interesting if they reveal their stories in the next chapter. Viceroy will need to get 'smart' if hes going to survive,ditto Selene who seems a more likely candidate for death/infection.The Gamekeeper is, as Shaky says, a cunt but he has survived and helped the others survive too. Obviously he is not an altruistic man but as Shaky observes on the sortie, they have no leader so are weaker for that. If the GK is dead I hope his passing is pretty memorable. (The contrast between Viceroy and the GK shows the two extremes of behaviour. Viceroy could be a dark horse as mentioned earlier). I think Jackson is more spooked then he lets on and may well stay with the others for longer. Look forward to the next chapter.
    On a side note, any feelings on the announced 'Patient Zero' story scheduled for Badlands#50?
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2012
    Someone mentioned on the last thread a theory about the crossed virus inverting a person's character, making especially good people especially awful. This makes me wonder, if the gamekeeper became one of the crossed, would he become a decent sort of fellow?

    It's sort of crazy to have a human that I find more repulsive in this story then the crossed. I mean, the crossed at least have an excuse for being terrifying and awful.
    • CommentAuthorblighty
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2012
    @No Fear You know, I am a little worried about that. For one thing, I think the mystery of the Crossed infection is a strength. Not having any idea what it is exactly(manmade virus, natural virus, some supernatural cause, etc) is a good thing. It adds to the weird and hopeless nature of the situation. Also, there is a simple logical reason: there cannot be a "patient zero" because it has been repeatedly established that the pandemic broke out all over the world simultaneously(for example, issue 2 of the original series where Randall talks about how the Canadians put their army on the border, thinking it was just an American problem, only to find out that the infection was already all over Canada).
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    If it's a virus, it could easily have been incubating for a while before it finally went full-cross. People getting aggressive, but not enough that they were being incarcerated. Going on airplanes, etc.

    And the "patient zero" could easily be a localized patient zero.

    We shall see!

    Also, the crossing doesn't invert people so much as simply bring out the worst in them. Taking away all the little inhibitions that say "raping someone through the ear is wrong".

    And also, yes. Crossed GroundsGamekeeper Willy is hella scary. Horsecock ain't got nothin' on him.
    • CommentAuthorWood
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2012
    I think I remember that Garth Ennis said that there would be no explanation in the original Crossed comics because it was not that kind of story.
    • CommentAuthorBerserker
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2012
    I found myself wondering today - assuming they make it back to Cava - will there still be a Cava for them to return to?

    It looked a lot like the plussers were watching it in the first chapter, so it stands to reason that the sortie might come 'home' to a smoking hole in the dirt.
    • CommentAuthorfenrir07
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2012
    I think Cava will be overrun and most people killed, eventually - but not just yet. There's still too much story left in the people and the struggle on the island..., IIRC, in the crossed universe fixed positions are always overrun...
    • CommentAuthorBadBeast
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2012
    I think that was Sister Theresa in that rib that chased them on the first night out. Shaky recognised someone on that boat, and he lied when he said he couldn't see if they were crossed or not, because through those sights it was obvious. But I don't think she's crossed like the others, because the cross on her face goes like an "X" instead of +. She's probably trying to help the crossed or something stupid and Nunnish like that.

    Whoever it was on the boat, I don't think we've seen the last of them, simply because of the "X" cross on the woman's face. Why was her cross different? It must be significant, because so far, the story's attention to detail has been pretty tight. And something must have happened between Shaky and the rest of the Gamekeeper's group, because none of them made it to Cava with him.
    And the only thought was "I miss Theresa".

    She's gone bad. I think, but not crossed. Mad, or bad enough for the rest of the crossed to give her a wide enough berth to avoid getting infected.
    • CommentAuthorNo Fear
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2012
    I think the whole thing with the X is a gigantic McGuffin and will not mean anything significant. She is definitely crossed whatever form the stigmata takes, after all not many people use a severed leg to abuse themselves with. The interesting thing is how she reached this point, and being in the same area as Shaky cant be a coincidence. As for whether she is some sort of 'super crossed' again I dont think that will be the case. I know that there have been some crossed who have shown rather more cunning/guile/intelligence then the others (Horsecock and the mother from 'Family Values' spring to mind) but I hope there are no more radical variants to the infection. After all, if you have super crossed who are worse then 'normal' crossed then the other end of the scale might suggest you have crossed who try and resist the infection. And I dont want them humanised at all.
    Oh maybe someone could make a list of things we actually know about the crossed, in general, as seen in all the comics not just WYWH. Look forward to next weeks episode.
    • CommentAuthorBadBeast
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2012
    I must have missed the frame with the severed leg nubbin rubbin'. I'm going to have to look again, and now I'm starting to feel ever so slightly aroused, and that ain't fuckin' right! I could try counting sheep, to take my mind off it, but that boat's sailed too, thanks to Mr "Mint Sauce" Jackson. Oh well. So it goes.
    • CommentAuthorBadBeast
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2012
    Ha ha, found it. Well, at least she seems to be happy. Now I know why Shaky wants to get off the Island.
    As for your list No Fear, the crossed seem to become fixated on tasks. For most of them, the task seems to be sexual gratification or / and violence. But for the "supercrossed", like Ma Pratt, HorseCock, or Theresa, it seems they fixate on those they were close to, who never got crossed. In HorseCock's case, it's poor blind Kelly. Ma Pratt hunts down her Daughters.

    So I'm thinking Shaky and Theresa must have been bumping uglies. I'll hazard a guess that the Gamekeeper puts the rape to Theresa, and when Shaky catches him in the act, he goes all "White Knight" and slots him. Then Theresa's long suppressed Catholic "fuck me" kicks in, and she gets a wide on for Shaky. Who bottles it, and spurns her because he's such an emotional cripple. So . . . . . . . and this is just speculation, Sister Theresa fucks everyone else in the GK Clan to death. I think she possibly bumps into Psycho Harold , who crosses her with some tit soup made from Lori's infected funbag.
    • CommentAuthorBadBeast
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2012
    The "X" faces seem to be uncrossed, which is maybe why they got "crossed" in a different way in #1:17. They also have some kind of medallion around their necks. Maybe Theresa hooks up with them, and becomes a kind of "Three legged Messiah". (Then moves to the Isle of Man?)
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    This is coming close to crossing the 'No Posting Fiction' line.

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