Whitechapel - CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343673#Comment_343673 2012-11-08T08:12:34-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Horrible Warning Si http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1223 It's Thursday, it's mid-afternoon in London, it's another wrongheaded morning in Mericky, it's who-the-fuck-knows-when in Australia, and it's time for more Crossed Hideosity. Episode 27, live and ...
Episode 27, live and free-to-air.

Remember: Not safe for work, not safe for minors, not safe for people of a nervous disposition, not safe for Lego, not safe for Derek Laud's unique business model, not safe for the TaxMan.

WOHYOOFINKIN]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343674#Comment_343674 2012-11-08T08:19:06-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Alan Tyson http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1299 Huh. Well now, who's this guy? (I like Tabitha's theory, by the way. Though I'm a little skeptical of it precisely because it's somewhat comforting).
(I like Tabitha's theory, by the way. Though I'm a little skeptical of it precisely because it's somewhat comforting).]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343676#Comment_343676 2012-11-08T08:37:10-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Dethklok http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10805 Tabi's explantion seems to click. And her story is the first time I've felt sorry for a Crossed. The fact that the Crossed was killed immediately by his mates lends credibility to Tabitha's story. ...
But the Crossed to a one all seem to have a manic happiness to them. I remember when Shaky was talking about the first day in London. The emergence of the Crossed seemed like some kind of horrible frat party gone wrong. But eventually as the population died or Crossed, they became more sly and cunning, in a way.

What will happen when the entire population of Earth is dead or Crossed? The disease, beyond the initial deathstroke to human civilization is real species extinction, because the Crossed will never go beyond extreme violence and normal humans will never have any peace. Mankind is finished. The Crossed comic series is just the final journal entry of a dead race.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343677#Comment_343677 2012-11-08T08:48:27-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 kzootron http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10779 Si, I honestly think you are one of the best writers to work on the crossed universe next to Garth. Can't wait for the annual as well. Keep up all the great work! CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343678#Comment_343678 2012-11-08T08:53:15-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 BadBeast http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10877 Maybe Tabitha can set some sort of "Art therapy" workshop up, you know? Try to reach the buried goodness inside the crossed with fingerpainting, that's bound to loosen the impacted stool ...
I mean, it's all very well for her to posit a theory like that, but surely, for the sake of veracity, we should have her try it out? She almost reached her Art class squeeze, even got a response, but it was quickly jumped on by his buddies.

Maybe if she tried some one on one cognitive Art therapy with selected crossed, she might manage to reawaken some sense of aesthetics in them, thereby kindling a spark of humanity and curing them. (If she can get through the lesson without getting all "Mrs Robinson"on them that is)
It has to be worth a try!]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343684#Comment_343684 2012-11-08T09:35:02-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 mister hex http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4411 @ badbeast - no, it doesn't. Bad idea from the word "go". What makes you think rapeyfuckmonsters have a soul? Or that our little group of survivors does? Or ANYONE? All this little art ...
@ Si - JESUS! You don't fuck around.

(I steadfastly maintain that scrollin' and clickin' ain't no way to read a comic book, though.)]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343685#Comment_343685 2012-11-08T09:45:11-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Wood http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5205 Am I the only one wondering about the "song about bloody hedgehogs" ? CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343687#Comment_343687 2012-11-08T09:53:48-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Horrible Warning Si http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1223 Song about bloody hedgehogs, believe it or not, has an explanation. BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO BUY THE CROSSED: BADLANDS ANNUAL TO LEARN IT. That's the level of soulless market-based crossover wanky ...
That's the level of soulless market-based crossover wanky nonsense we go in for at Avatar. You don't HAVE to buy the annual to understand *WYWH*, but the hedgehog song shall remain an eternal mystery if you don't. BWAHAHAH.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343688#Comment_343688 2012-11-08T10:00:15-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 No Fear http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10811 I dont think the school boy saying 'cunt cunt tasty custy' was him displaying any sort of soul or softness/goodness. If he had found Tabitha the usual results would occur. And having touchy feely ... Another good episode. Oh I have wondered who Jackson was prior to the outbreak, for some reason I keep thinking he was a priest (lol) so I will be getting the annual for his back story, shameless commercial monsters that Avatar are!!]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343689#Comment_343689 2012-11-08T10:06:32-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Santiago3 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10895 Si, I gotta say, I am in love with this series so far. Your story "Wish You Were Here" is the only thing that keeps me coming back to the world of The Crossed again and again. It doesn't ...
To me, what's truly intriguing and captivating about the Crossed universe isn't necessarily the Crossed themselves, but rather the situation. The ultimate test of survival for people raised in a rather harmless, coddling world. Seeing them deal with the obstacles - both material and emotional - is what really grips me in this storyline.

Keep up the amazing work, and I look forward to the next iteration!]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343690#Comment_343690 2012-11-08T10:09:07-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 BadBeast http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10877 @mister hex; My subtle sarcasm seems to have gone right over your head. My aim was to suggest a scenario that would provide a fitting end for this vapid, self absorbed bimbo, trying in vain to ... My aim was to suggest a scenario that would provide a fitting end for this vapid, self absorbed bimbo, trying in vain to justify dropping out of Law School to get an Art degree, just so she could shag underage boys.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343691#Comment_343691 2012-11-08T10:22:59-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 BadBeast http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10877 It's just struck me that this might not be the first time Scotland has been infected. Sawney Bean and his incestuous Clan of cannibals plagued Galloway for over 25 years back in the early 1600's. ... CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343692#Comment_343692 2012-11-08T10:31:34-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739 "vapid, self absorbed bimbo" That's pretty relative isn't it with the likes of Seline in the room? Besides would you kick her out of the bed with monsters at the door? I expect Shaky ...
That's pretty relative isn't it with the likes of Seline in the room? Besides would you kick her out of the bed with monsters at the door? I expect Shaky won't.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343696#Comment_343696 2012-11-08T11:28:12-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Mister Arioch http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10896 One of my favorite chapters so far. Excellent stuff. CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343697#Comment_343697 2012-11-08T11:39:14-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Wood http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5205 @Si is it a song about that thing that never happens to the hedgehog, even though you can do it to almost every other animal ? CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343705#Comment_343705 2012-11-08T12:56:44-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 BadBeast http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10877 @longtimelurker; Seline is going to surprise everyone. Once she's worked through her issues, and she's all fired up on prayer she's going to be like an avenging warrior for Jesus. And do you ... And do you really think Shaky is going to "get some" any time soon? Or ever? Jackson is his Shepherd now.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343712#Comment_343712 2012-11-08T13:45:43-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739 Yes Shaky will "get some." He's based on the author! CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343718#Comment_343718 2012-11-08T14:25:16-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 mister hex http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4411 @badbeast - WHO SAYS I AIN'T SUBTLE? cause I ain't subtle. When might we purchase such a fine annual?
When might we purchase such a fine annual?]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343729#Comment_343729 2012-11-08T17:34:17-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 twentythoughts http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7347 The Song About How I Stopped Trying With Hedgehogs And Settled For Sheep. CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343730#Comment_343730 2012-11-08T17:36:16-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Kay Orchison http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10078 @Beast - Naw, I reckon Seline will get Crossed. Come over all fierce and rapey. Either that or get eaten and make everyone feel guilty about feeling relieved. CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343731#Comment_343731 2012-11-08T18:26:15-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 BadBeast http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10877 @longtimelurker; Well, it's 27 weeks in, and he's not had so much of a sniff yet. He might even get so frustrated, he volunteers for the crossed, just for the sex . . . . . that would be an ... CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343732#Comment_343732 2012-11-08T18:26:17-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 fenrir07 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10857 I think the Crossed are more interesting as a monster, or enemy, than say your nomral Zombie. Other than that I don't worry so much about what makes them tick, or how they sustain themselves - as I ...
The logistic aspect for the uninfected is also almost as impossible. Everything has stopped working, more or less, so nobody makes anything anymore. Matches, needles, clothes, bullets, shovels - the supply is limited, and pretty much everything that is used wears out, sooner or later. So, unless your part of a tribe in some remote area of the world where conditions are more or less stone age - chances are good you're gonna' run out of stuff, should you be able to stay alive for any length of time...

...good episode..., and yeah Viceroy made it again..., hell, maybe he'll even get to tell his story before he kicks the bucket... :)]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343736#Comment_343736 2012-11-08T19:17:39-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 BadBeast http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10877 @enrir07 Way to suck all the joy out of survival! I'm just going to sit here now and wait to die. What's the point? CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343747#Comment_343747 2012-11-09T04:52:55-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 fenrir07 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10857 @BadBeast Indeed, what is the point? :) "…They’re all doomed, of course, and mostly they know it. But – as they see it – what’s the alternative? One of the big story threads ...
Indeed, what is the point? :)

"…They’re all doomed, of course, and mostly they know it. But – as they see it – what’s the alternative? One of the big story threads we’ll be exploring revolves around precisely that notion. Now that you’ve found sanctuary… now that you’re settled and there’s nowhere left to run… what the fuck do you do with your life?"


Source:
http://www.crossedcomic.com/2012/03/14/mirror-mirror-si-spurrier-shares-thoughts-on-semi-autobiographical-character-shakey/]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343749#Comment_343749 2012-11-09T05:21:10-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 stanandcindy http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10766 Tabitha is guilty of anthropomorphising the comely school boy. He probably indicated to his chums that he could arrange a pleasurable rape & dismemberment session with an attractive art teacher. ...
Viceroy has hidden depths. Ex SAS perhaps? He may go full Rambo & save the day.

It'll be interesting to see how Mr 'Brain Splatter' develops. He looks pretty hardcore.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343750#Comment_343750 2012-11-09T05:28:27-08:00 2012-11-09T05:53:37-08:00 BadBeast http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10877 I suppose when looked at from an entirely sociological viewpoint, it's the survivors who's behaviour is bucking the trend (in "crossed") The crossed live in small, itinerant groups of like ...
In 200 years time, when these pockets of so called 'survivors' have dwindled away to nothing, it will be the Crossed that will have ensured the future of our species, it will be men like Horsecock who will be remembered as the folk heroes of the future, the Robin Hoods of their day. The Crossed's adherence to their new (even if currently abhorrent) paradigm of reduced social skills may be what is evolutionarily vital for Humanity to survive. At least they don't have room for Bankers, Lawyers, or Governments, and that has to count for something at least.

ETA: And it's not often that reading comics (especially ones about cannibal rapezombies) has actually increased
my daily working English vocabulary, so many thanks Si, for "Retardulous". I've used it in conversation 4 times since yesterday, and I didn't once feel at all ridiculated.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343754#Comment_343754 2012-11-09T06:02:22-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 ErikCJones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8341 I've always felt like the Crossed don't worry about parasites and such in unclean water because their bodies run so hot all the time it's like they're constantly running a fever, burning out anything ... CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343756#Comment_343756 2012-11-09T06:28:59-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 stanandcindy http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10766 I can't see the Crossed having the patience to deal with the challenges of parenthood. An infant would be regarded as an interesting sex toy / tasty snack and nothing more. They'd die off relatively ... CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343757#Comment_343757 2012-11-09T06:54:12-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 BadBeast http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10877 @stanandcindy, Without making any judgements here, that's exactly the kind of argument that was used so effectively to suppress the emancipation of Slaves for so long. CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343758#Comment_343758 2012-11-09T07:04:13-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739 Lol, Bad, don't ever change, and don't ever go away. You're too much! CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343761#Comment_343761 2012-11-09T08:00:29-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739 For me, any zombie epic works better as a metaphor. I find myself less interested in the realistic aspect, as in, "How would the zombies survive and how many years would they last?" and ...
At its root, any zombie epic is a story of possession. The zombies used to be "normal" but now are possessed by a compulsion to do things they would ordinarily never do. To an outsider, the behavior resembles a horde. Usually the only recourse is death or assimilation.

Shaky is not Crossed, but look at what the bastards have already forced him to do. He's shot at least three kids in the face. He's leading expeditions to forage for supplies. He used to write in a coffee shop, and while Tabitha reminds him that is an important use of time, it was probably the ONLY thing he ever did. But now he has a cunning and a ruthlessness that gets him where he needs to go. He considers men like Rab and Jackson and the Gamekeeper, not as strong men who will protect him and that he needs, but often as rivals he must contend against, learn from, and eventually conquer. It is a powerful mindset. He is a thousand times stronger than that man who fled the coffee shop.

"The Robin Hoods of their time," yes, BadBeast, my young whippersnapper, that is very insightful, and I don't mean any irony in that, even though you might've. Remember that the real Robin Hoods lived in an age that was very, very dangerous. You had to pay outrageous sums for protection (as much as two-thirds to nine-tenths of your income in most cases) and the heroes were the men who stole from the "protectors" and gave back to the people so that they wouldn't starve.

Horsecock certainly wasn't a "hero," but he was a leader, and he was very quick to recognize who among the outsiders were the biggest threats. His form of warfare was not just rape/slash/kill, but EXTERMINATION, and he specifically targeted the child among the group. It's all about eliminating the offspring of your enemies and replacing them with your own offspring. The Crossed are new, and immature, but their tactics and methods of warfare are ancient. Horsecock led, because he was the most ANIMAL, he led with the concept of helping the pack survive in the here and now and pushing the species as a whole to become more ANIMAL as well. He even carries the reproductive tool of an animal. That's not an accident. During the sabbatical, Stan meets a wolf pack.

Getting back to that concept of possession. The brilliance of Garth's idea was to invent a new kind of zombie and then explore what kind of zombie it could be. The brilliance lied in the fact that we don't know everything about this new zombie, that this new zombie could threaten us in unexplored ways. The Crossed is actually the protagonist. It is inconceivable that the Crossed would have offspring. It seems impossible. But if the Crossed are the evolutionary next step, the Cro-magnon man to which the Neanderthal must adapt or perish, then it follows that humanity after the Crossed will be something entirely different. We don't know what that is yet because it remains to be seen. We need artists of brilliance to discover it and show it to us, and I trust Spurrier and the team will.

Tabitha's explanation is daft, but while she doesn't hit the bullseye I think she's in the first or second inner ring.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343763#Comment_343763 2012-11-09T08:11:20-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 twentythoughts http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7347 Also, "ha ha GAY GAY GAY" got a chuckle out of me. CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343764#Comment_343764 2012-11-09T08:13:05-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 stanandcindy http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10766 The Crossed aren't an evolutionary step. They are afflicted with a weird & ultimately fatal disease. You won't call someone with rabies an evolutionary step would you? CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343765#Comment_343765 2012-11-09T08:19:06-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214 How do the Crossed reproduce? How do they not starve or die of illness? How is it possible to fuck a dolphin's snothole? How do you kill a vampire? Any damn way the author wants to write it. ... How do they not starve or die of illness?
How is it possible to fuck a dolphin's snothole?
How do you kill a vampire?

Any damn way the author wants to write it. It's fiction. (with apologies to John Landis)]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343768#Comment_343768 2012-11-09T09:07:19-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 BadBeast http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10877 Well, on examination, the Crossed have shown (at least, the remnants) of many positive human qualities. There has been altruism, in the form of Stumpy riding on the back of wossname, then ...
Co-operation, through commonality, so there is obviously enough social awareness to utilise established Tribal dynamics like following totems (Horsecock's Horse's cock), or defiling the totems of others. (Crucifixions)

They show initiative, and inventiveness. (Admittedly, it's mostly directed towards inventive sexual carnage)

Delayed gratification, when weighed against mission accomplishment, and the ability to make complex organisational decisions on the spot, all suggest that there's nothing wrong with their logical deduction process, or their basic levels of intelligence.

I suppose what I really mean is that technically, the only difference between the Crossed, and the survivors, is a degree of impulse control. They are driven by the same basic urges, to fuck, to consume, and to establish dominance over your weaker fellows as the rest of us are. They're just more honest about it. For success at this basic instinctive level, intellect is superfluous, so it's been put on a back boiler for now. And the only reason they don't seem to reproduce, is probably down to basic uterine abuse. Once those crossed chicks get start to get preggers, there should still be a release of hormones that forces a semblance of motherhood in them. There certainly hasn't been any sign of hormonal deficiency among the Crossed so far.

As an evolutionary step, (assuming they can breed) they still show great potential for human survival.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343773#Comment_343773 2012-11-09T11:30:45-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Deadly Ramon http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10873 The Crossed worry about unhealthy bacteria and parasites in their drinking fluids (not necessarily water) about as much as they do about contracting an STD. CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343774#Comment_343774 2012-11-09T12:16:56-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 fenrir07 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10857 I think the crossed are just meant to be a variation of the zombie, a suitable monster for a scary story, nothing more. There were probably never much thought put into the biology of the crossed, and ...
But in comparison to the uninfected the crossed seem truly inferior in every way and their only strength seems to be their numbers. Because the laws of the crossed universe seems to dictate that the unifected are unable to counter attack, defend a fixed position in the long run and can only stay alive if constantly on the move - the crossed will nevertheless always have the upper hand.

However, it is easy to see how the unorganised, small groups of crossed who's only fighing tactic includes the suicidal headlong rush into the fray - would be exploited by the much smarter uninfected. I don't really see how the crossed could beat a Challanger tank, not to mention a platoon, or a company of tanks. How they could storm a castle. Nor do I see how the crossed rabble would cope with chemical warfare, they'd die like flies. :)

But, there can of course not be any chemical warfare against the crossed, as the crossed stories seem to be really about how the survaviours get killed off, not how they beat their enemy. ;-)]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343778#Comment_343778 2012-11-09T12:52:47-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214 They storm a castle by fucking a load of hamsters they found in a pet shop, then playing cricket with them and whacking them for six over the castle walls. Spermy hamster debris is enough to turn the ...
A tank? Spermy hamsters down the gun pipe, then a cork, or I dunno... a big baking potato, then BANG:- Spermy hamster all over the crew inside. Job done.

Et cetera.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343779#Comment_343779 2012-11-09T13:03:23-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 BadBeast http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10877 The Crossed are more than just horny zombies or monsters for the protagonist to overcome. The quality of writing throughout the Crossed universe has incrementally given many of them histories, ... CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343786#Comment_343786 2012-11-09T14:46:42-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739 "you wouldn't call someone with rabies an evolutionary step" I guess not. Maybe better to call it a purifying fire, weeding out whoever is weak or defenseless. I know that's harsh. If ...
I guess not. Maybe better to call it a purifying fire, weeding out whoever is weak or defenseless. I know that's harsh. If the Crossed broke out, I wouldn't survive the first day. I know that. Most people wouldn't. The world the Crossed would give us would be worse in every way. It is a perfect nightmare. WYWH shows the truth of that, I think, both in the early scenes and the aftermath. Yes, it's fiction. But it TOUCHES the truth, if that makes any sense. The Greeks and Romans never thought their civilization would end either. But they weren't destroyed by civilization; they were destroyed by barbarism. When the average citizen loses basic survival skills it puts the society at risk.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343791#Comment_343791 2012-11-09T16:02:36-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 fenrir07 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10857 Ancient Greece was defeated by Rome because the legion was more effective on the battlefield than the phalanx. It would be a bit of an simplification to say that Rome was destoryed by barbarians, ...
I figure the crossed are more like super-violent neanderthals with a constant hard-on. Like the neanderthals they band together in small groups, attack their prey from close range, communicate in a crude language and don't comb their hair... :)
...and we all know what fate evolution had in store for the neanderthals... :D

If the crossed epidemic broke out I'd live through it and post a bit about it on facebook. :)]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343796#Comment_343796 2012-11-09T16:38:54-08:00 2012-11-09T16:39:23-08:00 twentythoughts http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7347 @fenrir07: Read the other printed Crossed comics... You may change your mind. The Crossed get a really cruel idea, and run with it, for fun. From what I've seen, it seems to amplify the worst ... focus on them.

Slight spoiler for the first Crossed paperback:
At one point a group of Crossed are seen jacking off into a bowl. Turns out that the bowl contained bullets... And these bullets are then fired at non-Crossed. Contaminated bullets, that turn people over. This is the same group that, as far as I remember, also made it a hobby to capture non-infected, infect one of them, and lock them up in a makeshift arena to watch the ensuing 'show'.


Crossed seem to be more like a really crude version of idiot savants: When they set their minds to something, they can be pretty clever about it. They're just so focused on it, they forget about a lot of other stuff. And the things they focus on are, for the most part, these dark impulses that would be shoved to the back of a normal human being's mind.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343799#Comment_343799 2012-11-09T17:08:17-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739 @fenrir07 I guess I read the wrong history books. I believed the barbarians wiped out the Roman rulers and plunged the world into 1000 years of Dark Ages. But it's all good. Your points are ...
I guess I read the wrong history books. I believed the barbarians wiped out the Roman rulers and plunged the world into 1000 years of Dark Ages.

But it's all good. Your points are well-made, and it's a testament to the writing that it can establish a discussion at such a high level.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343801#Comment_343801 2012-11-09T17:13:51-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739 @twentythoughts They are like a human virus, aren't they? Their primal purpose is to kill and/or contaminate others.
They are like a human virus, aren't they? Their primal purpose is to kill and/or contaminate others.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343834#Comment_343834 2012-11-09T23:20:34-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Steve Toase http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10253 @longtimelurker the concept of the Dark Ages has long been disproved by the richness of the culture in the Norse, Anglo-Saxon, Byzantium world. Of course the irony of this comparison is that the ... CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343848#Comment_343848 2012-11-10T08:27:54-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739 Ah, the joy of Whitechapel, where you can bask in the pleasures of horrific artwork and get a history lesson. CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343853#Comment_343853 2012-11-10T10:44:06-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 twentythoughts http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7347 @longtimelurker: Not necessarily. Could be that the Crossed infection makes them act that way in order to spread the infection the most efficiently, yes... You see that elsewhere in nature. But the ... CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343855#Comment_343855 2012-11-10T11:00:04-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739 @Steve Toase The nomadic invasions that brought an end to the Roman Empire were attended by extreme devastation and depopulation of huge areas. If that isn't equivalent to what the Crossed did, I ...
The nomadic invasions that brought an end to the Roman Empire were attended by extreme devastation and depopulation of huge areas. If that isn't equivalent to what the Crossed did, I don't know what is.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343857#Comment_343857 2012-11-10T12:22:38-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 BadBeast http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10877 @20thoughts; Syphilus, when it gets to contagious maturity in an infected woman, conditions her skin and hair, dilates her eyes, and releases huge amounts of sex pheromones to make her as alluring to ...
If you were a viral infection, and you just drained your host of life, there will be no germy sneezes, no foetid squits or gouts of semen with which to carry you to your next host. All you get, is trapped in useless dead meat. Bad move Ebola, to be so virulent that the host cannot spread far geographically between symptoms apperaing, and death. Bad move, evolutionarily. Ebola becomes the doomed Panda of infections, and soon to perish.

I bet the most successful viruses will never be discovered, because they have adapted so well with the host they don't produce any symptoms. They might even enhance the host's biological function, or their intelligence, playing the long game, and passing invisibly and without any detectable process from host to host, via it's normal reproductive process. Then it would be in the infection's interest to preserve the host's life in whatever way possible, to maximise it's own potential. Viral enhancers. Replenishing themselves just enough to remain viable and undetected in the host. Adapting to avoid the immune system. And what are the immune system's antibodies, anyway if not another micro organism that came in as a parasite, but stayed as a symbiote?]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343858#Comment_343858 2012-11-10T12:34:32-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Steve Toase http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10253 That period, and the subsequent 1000 years, were also responsible for Russia, the Normans, the establishment of Dublin, the arrival of the Angles, Saxons and Jutes in the British Isles, the ... Other cultures at the time considered Barbarian by the Romans included communities such as the Pazyryk culture. The period following the end of the Western Roman Empire (And that is only technically an end as it continued with the Holy Roman See in the West and the Byzantine Church in the East.) was only a Dark Age from the perspective of an urbanised Roman population. Seen from the perspective of the rest of the continent it was a time when art and knowledge flourished. This is the reason why it tends to be referred to as Early Medieval, or in some texts as sub-roman or post-roman. I have to confess that my area of research is a lot earlier and I have a passing interest in the Roman period and beyond.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343889#Comment_343889 2012-11-11T04:48:29-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 No Fear http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10811 Yet to be proven that the Crossed infection is down to a virus. CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343922#Comment_343922 2012-11-11T20:47:01-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Deadly Ramon http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10873 Actually, that group of crossed jacking off into the bowl of bullets doesn't appear to be the same group led by Horsecock. I'm no gunsmith, but I imagine that semen-smothered ammunition isn't ... I'm no gunsmith, but I imagine that semen-smothered ammunition isn't exactly a part of the recommended routine firearms preventative maintenance manual. The crossed can't keep their own clothes from quickly becoming tattered rags; how their guns can still perform flawlessly, with nary a misfire or jam in sight, is something I ascribe to mere artistic license.

On another note, anyone notice how some characters turn immediately upon contact with a bit of crossed-infected fluid, while others take a bit more time? I suspect that Shakey has some natural immunity to the pathogen because he was wandering throughout blood-soaked ground in and around London with bare feet.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343938#Comment_343938 2012-11-12T09:42:32-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 blighty http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10752 @Deadly Ramon You are correct. The crossed jerking off on the bullets is in the second issue. Horsecock doesn't appear for several more issues. I also had wondered about the thing with Shaky walking ...
Big mystery count: What is the deal with the nun and her X face? The X's cut into the faces of the crucified soldiers along with the weird, non aggressive crossed behavior noted by Jackson would indicate that she has become a leader/organizer on more of a large scale than we have seen in previous series. There is also the booby trapped cow and the beheaded rabbit artwork(?) thing. I think these are both from the nun and her crowd(some kind of religion dedicated to dismemberment and insertion? lol).

Who is that well wrapped and goggled crossed we momentarily saw at the end of the previous issue? No idea on this one.

New character who just popped in for a chat? I think it is the easiest answer: just another survivor. Will probably demand to be taken along.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343942#Comment_343942 2012-11-12T11:27:18-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 BadBeast http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10877 @Deadly Ramon, I reckon the Crossed jerk off on everything they can't fuck, as a matter of course. CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343959#Comment_343959 2012-11-12T21:31:25-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Deadly Ramon http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10873 At the risk of humanizing some Crossed, has anyone else wondered if some of them at least respond to the infection in an unconventional way? Maybe some become fearless but not sadistic, or others ...
About the crossed jacking off and raping everything, I wonder what would happen to someone who subsists on Viagra upon getting infected. Instant cure for impotence?

Finally, that well wrapped and goggled crossed at the end of the prior issue reminded me of Doomsday (Superman's nemesis) for some reason.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343965#Comment_343965 2012-11-12T23:14:34-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 taphead http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2284 Who is that well wrapped and goggled crossed we momentarily saw at the end of the previous issue? No idea on this one. The implication is that he's Skip's brother. Consider the title Wish You Were ... Who is that well wrapped and goggled crossed we momentarily saw at the end of the previous issue? No idea on this one.

The implication is that he's Skip's brother. Consider the title Wish You Were Here. The nun, the brother; I wonder who'll pop up next. (Not Tabitha's lover, I'd imagine...)]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=343983#Comment_343983 2012-11-13T09:02:52-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 blighty http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10752 @Deadly Ramon Lol. It does look like Doomsday's initial appearance. Now I can't unsee it. @taphead I would have to say that I don't think that is the case. Skip's brother was too badly injured, ...
@taphead I would have to say that I don't think that is the case. Skip's brother was too badly injured, and it just seems too easy. Your tying it in to the title is nice though, I hadn't considered that.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=344031#Comment_344031 2012-11-14T03:00:51-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 BadBeast http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10877 I reckon that "X" is the cross of St Patrick, and they're all Irish. CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=344032#Comment_344032 2012-11-14T04:07:35-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Wood http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5205 Nonsense. This is Scotland, and it is the cross of St Andrew. CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=344035#Comment_344035 2012-11-14T07:14:36-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 ddavie http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10855 For Oddcult: "How is it possible to fuck a dolphin's snothole?" I've just spent about 10 straight minutes NOT getting anything done at work because I was in laughter stasis...that was ...
Honestly most of these in the thread are funny as hell. As I read through all the posts of everyone gathering and guessing at why X = X and Y = Y around this story, my own thoughts are...I think they're just psychotic and the characters themselves (written as realistically as possible in that insane environment) are "reaching" on their own for an explanation simply because it's human nature to search for the answer. But the long and short of it is like Odd said - because it's in the script. LOL. But I enjoy reading all the different theories and directions that never crossed my mind while I was also thinking up my own answers as to why something is or isn't, this way or that, and who will do what next!! :-)

For the most part I succumb to the fact that Si is pure genius and writes the absolute craziest shit he can think of while tying it to the previous week, and making something new for the next! Every story within "WYWH" thus far has been SO very good! And the metaphors are a kind of new and supreme vernacular salad!

Keep up the insanity, Si! And thanks as well to those who post here for the mostly hysterical reads and insights in between the releases - I don't know about anyone else but I like the threads that pop up after a new issue damn near as much as the comic!]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=344038#Comment_344038 2012-11-14T08:55:25-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 Dethklok http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10805 Just got the trade for Crossed vol 4. The 'Homo Superior' arc is fucked up. Cannot unsee. Worth my money.
Worth my money.]]> CROSSED: WISH YOU WERE HERE -- Episode 27 (Season 2 Ep 5) http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10899&Focus=344040#Comment_344040 2012-11-14T09:30:03-08:00 2013-05-23T14:24:36-07:00 tomrahster http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10836 Been ill for a few days, and didn't get around to reading this chapter until today. Excellent story, just keeps getting better - but the best bit? I only have to wait until tomorrow for the next ...
But then I have to wait a week for the bit after that.

Damn.]]>