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      CommentAuthorallana
    • CommentTimeFeb 23rd 2013
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    On a related topic, Jon Stewart's compilation of dashboard cam footage from Russia was fucking amazing. I had no idea there was such a proliferation, or that there was a societal necessity for their footage. Watching these is probably what I'm going to do for the rest of the day -- I mean, work on group project, yes definitely.

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    @dorkmuffin: Oof, I switched the two states, and said Alabama instead of Georgia. Yeesh, my US geography is that bad? Ok, Georgia makes sense then. Yeah, Indiana's is still plain creepy.
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      CommentAuthortaphead
    • CommentTimeFeb 23rd 2013
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    ... I need to stop collecting doppelgängers. Shit's getting way outta hand.
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      CommentAuthortaphead
    • CommentTimeFeb 23rd 2013
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    Depression Quest, an interactive text game about living with depression. It's not fun, but it is important. It left me a wee bit shaky.
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    @ taphead - Wow... I had to stop cos it got a bit too close to the bone, but it's beautifully executed.
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      CommentAuthorD.J.
    • CommentTimeFeb 23rd 2013
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    Guys, I won at depression and it was really easy.


    ...I think I might have missed the point.
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      CommentAuthorTF
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2013
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    @allana

    the fact that they created dialogue and became part of a narrative means that they should've been put back up.


    I agree with you, I think they should have left it up - maybe replaced the embeds with links and stuck a warning and apology at the top of the page; they should definitely have left comments open to let people talk it out.

    But, really: They should have listened to the video before they put it up, that's where a sense of editorial responsibility should come into it - especially given the holier than thou attitude they ride on.

    My breaking point with Boing Boing came a couple of years ago when Xeni posted a video of an upset father shouting into a webcam after his daughter was naive enough to play with 4chan. Xeni's tone was "look how stupid this mustache man is" - and her response to criticism in the comments was pretty much: you didn't pay for Boing Boing and you don't have to read it.

    But I don't think it's worth taking a bombastic stand against Boing Boing either way because I don't think they really have principals to betray - they're just a blog with a lot of contributors, like a sometimes messy tumblr from an age before tumblr existed.
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2013
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    @ Allana

    The video in question. I have to say the "best" part of it is the anchorwoman's "Ooh, one more time."

    • CommentAuthorArgos
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2013
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    Man, that depression game is, well, depressing. On the one hand it was sad reading things that hit close to home, but on the other it was nice to see feelings I've experienced before described so clearly by someone else.
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      CommentAuthorallana
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2013
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    I was surprised how un-impressed I was with the depression game. I guess that's reassuring? That I don't know what it's really like?
    I guess it just felt ... obvious, or maybe too literal, like I imagine real depression is a lot fuzzier, more abstract.

    @ john jones, I didn't link the video here because my interest is in the internetty-narrative, not the gratuity.
    • CommentAuthorArgos
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2013
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    It can be really abstract, but I felt it did a good job of describing the general apathy and lethargy a person can go through when they're depressed, and the utter hopelessness of feeling unable to do anything about it.
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      CommentAuthorsneak046
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2013
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    Dash cam crash is poor taste, but not as poor taste as many of the 'news' footage from war , natural disasters etc that get shown on TV all the time. If Mark Frauenfelder was guilty of anything it was posting-without-checking-details-first, and I'm never gonna criticise for doing something I have also done many times...

    As for the takedown, if he at the time thought there was a fatality I can understand why he removed the post.
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      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2013
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    Re: Depression Quest, I actually sort of felt better after playing, which I think is kind of amazing. While the act of playing was a bit shocking, since it mirrored a lot of how I feel most times (I've never been clinically diagnosed as depressed, but it wouldn't come as much of a surprise), but afterwards I felt weirdly capable of dealing with it. I guess it's one of those "once you know there's a trap, you can avoid it" things - having it all laid out like that helped some.

    So, in short, bravo designers.
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      CommentAuthorDextra
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2013
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    Guys? I....I don't even know.....I just....*cries blood*

    Someone made a Crossed/My Little Pony Tumblr.

    Not safe for work. Not safe for LIFE. For the love of all that is good, don't click on it. I just want to make it known that it exists. And it is HORRIFYING.
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      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2013
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    I apparently made someone have to dash to the bathroom after reblogging the Crossed: Equestria thing on Tumblr.

    I feel a little bad about that.
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2013
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    If this actually happened, I think Jennifer Lawrence might be my new favourite person...

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    Quick, to the Vladmobile!

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    @allana:

    Sometimes it's horribly, terribly banal and obvious. Like "oh come on" obvious. Also, there's shit all you can do about it.
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      CommentAuthortaphead
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2013
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    Re: Depression Quest, I'm shamelessly copying my comments from a couple of FB threads that got busy:

    One of the more harrowing aspects of this game is that it actually describes a best case scenario of sorts. A job, a supportive relationship, the means to get therapy and medication are all available.

    ... which is, of course, the point, especially since one of the points of emphasis here is to show the different mechanisms of reversing the process. But it's good to keep in mind the situations where these support systems are not present.

    And on the "why can't you just get a grip" thing that you sometimes hear (never in these parts, though, 'cause yer all awesome), the game does a great job of illustrating how those Good Options (that you _do_ know would do you good) just aren't available. "Get a grip" is the first thing that gets crossed out in red, so to speak.