2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347637#Comment_347637 2013-01-31T09:34:18-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Horrible Warning Si http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1223

t's Thursday, it's mid-afternoon in London, it's another wrongheaded morning in Mericky, it's who-the-fuck-knows-when in Australia, and it's time for more Crossed Hideosity. Episode 36, live and ...

Episode 36, live and free-to-air.

Remember: Not safe for work, not safe for minors, not safe for people of a nervous disposition, not safe for Cuervo Cold, not safe for shire horses, not safe for A! D! T!

ELLOELLOELLO]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347640#Comment_347640 2013-01-31T10:18:27-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 blighty http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10752

You know, it's funny: In the discussion of what happened to Seline, someone had made a crack about her being at the bottom of a giant pile of rape or something like that. Which was taken in the ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347641#Comment_347641 2013-01-31T10:26:52-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Mister Arioch http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10896

Wow. That was more or less exactly what I was expecting, and it was still tough to read. Not to mention more than a bit unnerving. Poor Seline. I'd like to have believed that the soldiers wouldn't ...

I'd like to have believed that the soldiers wouldn't be so short-sighted - their actions pretty much eliminated Cava as a potential partner in trade, and in the world of the Crossed, I would think you'd want all the allies (and possible resources) you could get. But apparently they were past the point of being rational ... and paid a price for it.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347642#Comment_347642 2013-01-31T10:34:46-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739

It should be the tag line: CROSSED -- it's worse than you can imagine.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347644#Comment_347644 2013-01-31T11:06:10-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Dethklok http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10805

Not condoning rape AT ALL, but none of the fine young bucks chasing Seline could pull weapons to shoot her before she set off the grenade? That's the Crossed world, though. If the plusfaces don't ...

That's the Crossed world, though. If the plusfaces don't do you, you do yourself. It seems like the concept of a square deal was beyond England's finest.

And as always, the Crossed children freak me out the most. The Crossed kid scene reminded me of the scene in 28 Days Later when Jim was attacked by the infected child in the diner out in the country. Was that your inspiration, Si?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347649#Comment_347649 2013-01-31T12:07:37-08:00 2013-01-31T12:08:27-08:00 Mister Arioch http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10896

> but none of the fine young bucks chasing Seline could pull weapons to shoot her before she set off the grenade? They were probably hoping not to kill her, so they could keep having their way ...

> but none of the fine young bucks chasing Seline could pull weapons to shoot her before she set off the grenade?

They were probably hoping not to kill her, so they could keep having their way with her. And they probably didn't believe she'd really do it.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347650#Comment_347650 2013-01-31T12:27:10-08:00 2013-01-31T12:27:26-08:00 ddavie http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10855

That was hellacious! (Not the rape, his divination of occurrences.) I liked Shay's simple reply, "busy" to anyone who spoke to him whilst he strode through the fort putting together all ...

For all his bitching and moaning about poor, useless Seline he comes right out and says those remaining from the other crew don't measure up well enough to fill HER shoes - a damn bold statement. Yet he still has to pick a couple to tote back. Having said that...I'm wondering is 3 REALLY all that much more than 2? Unless the instructions were "no more than 2 or you have to be Jackson's sheep" I'd think a 3rd in the boat wouldn't be a deal breaker. And if it is, let Rab and Pudgy Jon choose the keeper.

Great as always, Si - thanks once again!]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347655#Comment_347655 2013-01-31T15:24:48-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 fenrir07 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10857

Watch out Viceroy!!!!! :D

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347656#Comment_347656 2013-01-31T16:17:07-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 DavidLejeune http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4220

I'm pretty sure a single hand grenade wouldn't be enough to blow open the gate like that.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347657#Comment_347657 2013-01-31T16:40:03-08:00 2013-02-01T14:10:47-08:00 Berserker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=41

The second most disappointing thing about this episode was my prior speculation being completely on the mark. This is NOT to say I'm disappointed in the story, not at all. Si still managed to find ...

I'll leave the rest to all of you.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347659#Comment_347659 2013-01-31T18:14:44-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 SenorSmoothie http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10926

;_;7 Rip Selene went out like a boss. Has there been any female character that has not been raped in a Crossed comic? Like......maybe 2 at the most. Sigh, maybe mix it up next time?

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347662#Comment_347662 2013-01-31T18:25:57-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Mr Fantastico http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10929

I kinda feel that the rape was pretty cliche, couldn't there have been a trading relationship between The Fort and Cava. In no post apocalypse situation do survivors ever work together.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347666#Comment_347666 2013-01-31T20:44:15-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 The Big Texan http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10936

I agree that a single hand grenade would not have been sufficient to blow the gate, but maybe the gate was rigged to blow outwardly and take as many plussies with it in the explosion as it could. ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347670#Comment_347670 2013-01-31T21:58:32-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Deadly Ramon http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10873

I would have expected members of the Black Watch to have better discipline than that, even in a world gone completely mad. I wonder if anyone who has served in that regiment reads Crossed and this ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347675#Comment_347675 2013-01-31T23:50:51-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 curb http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1334

^ Sadly, recent history in Iraq suggests that British troops don't need the world to be ending in order to abuse civilians.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347686#Comment_347686 2013-02-01T03:24:43-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214

Yeah, and this is where you lost me. How long's it supposed to have been? A year? Not that? Overseas deployments last for longer in areas without knocking shops and all guys, even soldiers, have ...

How long's it supposed to have been? A year? Not that? Overseas deployments last for longer in areas without knocking shops and all guys, even soldiers, have dry spells lasting longer. In a shitty situation, where there's a chance of establishing a new supply route, discipline doesn't break down like that. Especially for a minger.

Sure, prisoners get abused and dehumanised, but not a potential ally. Lamp-shading it by talking about 'that movie' was just a bit too much too.

Of course, it could be that thingy's CSI version of events was way off and overly influenced by 'that movie' but it was almost like once it was going in that direction, the story was painted into a bit of a damned if you do or don't mixture of metaphorical outcomes. Going with it but lamp-shading the hell out of it just felt a bit unsatisfying though.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347694#Comment_347694 2013-02-01T05:30:58-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 fenrir07 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10857

"....It all goes horribly wrong..." Seline dying, well - I figured she would, like I think all the others eventually will get bumped off - but didn't think she would be raped. I thought ...

Seline dying, well - I figured she would, like I think all the others eventually will get bumped off - but didn't think she would be raped. I thought there would have been all sorts of people holed up in the castle, including women and children. But well...., the castle had to fall, of course, because if I got it right the crossed world rests on a number of truths, one of them being that no fixed position can withstand the crossed. I imagine Cava will also eventually fall. Meanwhile maybe they need to get a new Sofia to Cava or it's only a matter of time before the men starts to rape the women there too... :/]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347695#Comment_347695 2013-02-01T05:59:17-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739

...all of which only proves that most of us would have made the same mistake that Shaky did in that situation. We would have assumed "real soldiers wouldn't do that" and would have gotten ...

Having said that, it does make the story darker and uglier, and I don't blame anyone for being turned off by it.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347698#Comment_347698 2013-02-01T06:24:06-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214

'Real' soldiers with that much ammunition and a defendable position would have been able to kill all of the crossed in front of the gate prior to a supply run before more could turn up too. Sure, the ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347700#Comment_347700 2013-02-01T06:30:30-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Mister Arioch http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10896

Agree with you completely, Oddcult. I'm a bit disappointed as well.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347703#Comment_347703 2013-02-01T07:49:31-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Deadly Ramon http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10873

I'm disappointed, too, as I am whenever even a semi-likable character meets with a gruesome end in these Crossed series. However, the stories are still quite attention-riveting and entertaining. ...

I don't think the men on Cava will start raping (gang or otherwise) the women because: 1) Tabitha, Jackie, and especially Elisa can fend off any unwelcome advances; 2) Mrs. Masoud and Jackie have husbands with whom it's probably a good idea not to mess; 3) Roshan and Chanice have protective fathers; 4) Maria is too old, but can likely take care of herself; 5) Edith and Christie are frumpy and smell like mothballs and cat piss; and 6) Jamie's a sodomite, Rab possibly so, and Jackson's a zoophile.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347704#Comment_347704 2013-02-01T07:58:15-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Horrible Warning Si http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1223

Have a little faith, folks. Story's not over yet.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347706#Comment_347706 2013-02-01T08:31:01-08:00 2013-02-01T08:38:51-08:00 Steve Toase http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10253

Jamie's a sodomite, Rab possibly so Just looked at the Interlude and it says he is from Edinburgh not a Biblical city mentioned in Genesis.

Jamie's a sodomite, Rab possibly so
Just looked at the Interlude and it says he is from Edinburgh not a Biblical city mentioned in Genesis.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347711#Comment_347711 2013-02-01T09:19:05-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214

Easy mistake to make though.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347713#Comment_347713 2013-02-01T09:30:57-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Steve Toase http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10253

Same climate

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347714#Comment_347714 2013-02-01T09:37:24-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739

"frumpy and smell like mothballs and cat piss" Keep it classy, Deadly!

Keep it classy, Deadly!]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347739#Comment_347739 2013-02-01T18:50:00-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Deadly Ramon http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10873

Si's the one who wrote what they smell like, though I was mistaken when I said cat piss (the sentence read "pee-smelling cat-obsessed nutfuck spinsters"). See ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347740#Comment_347740 2013-02-01T18:54:40-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Deadly Ramon http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10873

Just looked at the Interlude and it says he is from Edinburgh not a Biblical city mentioned in Genesis. I didn't use the word as a proper noun, just an adjective synonymous with ...

Just looked at the Interlude and it says he is from Edinburgh not a Biblical city mentioned in Genesis.

I didn't use the word as a proper noun, just an adjective synonymous with "homosexual."]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347768#Comment_347768 2013-02-02T11:48:59-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Joe B http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=940

The thing is, you're all going off of what Shaky thinks has happened given the available evidence. It could have been a matter that she went in expecting to sweet talk them into remaining there. The ...

I don't see Seline getting out of a room full of soldiers. It seems more likely that the soldier came down to take care of business on his own and then the events carried on as Shaky thinks. Or they did have a go at her as a means of breaking her to get the information and the soldier came back for another round by himself.
The only thing that we the readers and Shaky have to go on is dead, uncrossed, aroused soldier (singular) a length of rope (which may or may not have been used for what we think it was used for), and what is apparently Seline's finger in a grenade ring.
I for one am with the other people there for getting what they need loaded and out of there before there's more crossed to deal with. Or other survivors looking to finally get something off the bastards who wouldn't let them in.
As for the number of people to bring back, I'm sure rationing of supplies and space is important. But I can't help thinking of the scene in the Seven Samurai where the guys sent to recruit the samurai apologize to the elder who sent them, since they were supposed to get three or four. And the elder said, "seven should be enough, had I told you get seven you would have come back with twenty."
And who knows, with what Shaky's been pulling, he might not be welcome back. Which would open space for the last person.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347780#Comment_347780 2013-02-02T16:33:38-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 Deadly Ramon http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10873

I think two of the skinnier new crew wouldn't take up that much more space nor would they weigh that much more than one Seline. Bring them all aboard!

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347782#Comment_347782 2013-02-02T17:37:45-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739

Shaky should just let Tabitha sit on his lap!

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=10977&Focus=347878#Comment_347878 2013-02-05T09:29:23-08:00 2013-06-19T22:25:31-07:00 texture http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1472

Stakes is high. Spurrier, you're doing a bang-up job. Enjoying the hell out of this series, especially the bits that are hard to stomach. I feel like Spurrier has a better grip of the morally ...