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    Caught "Epic" today. Wow, but that movie seems to be in some kinda competition to see how many adventure/family movie tropes it can include.

    Of particular note is the charming but rash, youthful soldier guy who doesn't know how to be part of a team but is a smooth talker who charms the female lead, and who learns Important Lessons about teamwork. They take this particular one to pretty ridiculous extremes, actually, when it comes to the "be a dumbass who doesn't follow orders and thus screws things up" bit.

    Also, the movie IS actually surprising - in a bad way - in how black-and-white it is, right from the start. They throw in a brief mention in the beginning about the balance between rot and life, but then they throw that away and make the people in charge of rot into orc-like bad guys who may now be mercilessly and guiltlessly killed off in masses. Instead of, y'know, acknowledging that stuff needs to rot in order for important part of the plant and animal life to thrive.
    It gets to the point that they seemingly get rid of the rot entirely. Yeah, good luck with your forest where nothing ever rots now, y'all. Though that might actually make a decent idea for a sequel, if they get off the bad-guys-are-bad-and-evil train.

    On the whole, though, it's a perfectly entertaining popcorn flick. And for all the complaints from adult reviewers, it seems that the movie IS a hit with the kids who do watch it.
    • CommentAuthorflecky
    • CommentTimeJun 12th 2013
    @twentythoughts: I watched "Stoker" the other night. I found it OK, but was expecting it to be a bit longer.

    I have to admit I quite enjoyed "The Paperboy" and the sleazy-steamy feel of it.

    Why the hell did I bother to watch "The Last Exorcism Part 2" a few days back? Maybe I just feel sorry for that actress in it. Poor chick. Nope - a waste of my eyes.

    I also watched "Irreversible", and found myself a bit...disturbed?
    • CommentTimeJun 12th 2013
    Anyone who can watch /Irreversible/ and not come away at least a *bit* disturbed is dead inside. You could use it as a test for detecting sociopaths.
    • CommentTimeJun 12th 2013
    Yeah, Irreversible is... a film I saw. It's a brilliant piece of filmmaking, certainly, and I love the fact that Gaspar NoƩ just keeps making films that make you feel something that others don't and FUCK the people who try to tell him and the movie-going public that this makes his movies abhorrent and speculative. I was warned against going to see I Stand Alone by the guy who OWNED THE CINEMA that screened it because it was a reprehensible glorification of child rape and incest... Right.
    • CommentAuthorandycon
    • CommentTimeJun 12th 2013
    Thanks Finagle, now PRISM is gonna see my 5 star reviews for Irreversible and A Serbian Film and send me away before I can set up this years Amazonathon (All you can watch Italian Cannibal movies AND All you can eat cold cuts)
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    @andycon "I'd buy that for a dollar".

    @ longtimelurker

    Good points on Oblivion, Tom does have an impressive fan base and it'll probably see beyond that too - to people unfamiliar with sci-fi tropes like my Mam who enjoyed it.

    You might well also be right about Elysium - I didn't know Blomkamp was directing. We'll see.

    I think that Wolverine will make its money back, that much is true, but I do think it could fail to make a lot more money if it's a bad film and word gets out. Don't get me wrong, I think it'll make enough money to possibly make another Wolverine film but I have a theory that this could be the beginning of the end.

    Man, poor old World War Z - I'm not surprised about the China recut. Apparently their Iron Man 3 has a different ending too.

    Good points to bring up.

    @ all - Irreversible is the kind of film you watch once and try very hard to never watch ever again.
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    @ Ben Gwalchmai - man, I don't have to try not to watch Irreversible again. Part of me still wants to cry when I see Monica Bellucci.
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2013
    I've never been able to decide if I dislike Irreversible more or less than Baise Moi because I've never felt the need to watch either again...
    • CommentAuthorflecky
    • CommentTimeJun 14th 2013
    I finally got to see the new Star Trek flick, and I started to fall asleep halfway through. Probably nowt to do with it, as I was shattered. But I just didn't really feel much for the characters in it; pretty hollow, me found them! Maybe it's my age, but I've not gotten buzzed-up on a Trek flick since First Contact.

    Man of Steel?
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeJun 14th 2013
    Man of Steel's good.

    Owes a hell of a lot to The Authority. Quite dour for a Superman film. Very much 'Superman Begins'.

    It really gets that Superman is a Jewish messiah myth by having him face space nazis, which was interesting.
  4.  (11051.11)
    "Man of Steel" was a good Superman movie, yeah. Not perfect, and sometimes a little too wrapped up in its own stylish touches, but very much worth seeing. It has some darned good superpowered fights in it, and does a good job of wrapping a good story around someone as high-powered as Superman.

    I'd argue that it's either the best or second best Superman movie made, depending how well you feel the first Superman movie has aged. Seriously, watch it again without nostalgia goggles on. It's still good, but it could be argued that it's showing its age in not-great ways.
    • CommentTimeJun 15th 2013
    As I recall, the first Superman movie has that silly-ass stuff with Lex Luthor trying to sink California to score on real estate and Superman flying backward to save Lois Lane. The best of the Superman movies, for me, was Superman II.
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    How many great stories does Wolverine have as a solo character, anyway? Origin and Weapon X were already dealt with in his first movie, and the rivalry with Sabretooth is played out, I think. The main villains in Old Man Logan belong to other studios.

    Expect future Wolverine films to be set in Asia, and not just because it's a growth market. It makes sense for the character.
    • CommentTimeJun 15th 2013
    It really gets that Superman is a Jewish messiah myth by having him face space nazis, which was interesting.

    This! My Girlfriend got the impression a lot of the plot elements were taken from 1930's comics.

    It's a grand, enjoyable movie.

    It's also interesting as a catchall for the other big movies of the last few years - as much as it drew from Batman Begins it took an awful lot from JJ Abrams Star Trek, and had lots of "homages" to Avatar, the Star Wars Prequels, Prometheus, War of the Worlds, Iron Man, Thor, The Matrix....
    • CommentAuthorflecky
    • CommentTimeJun 15th 2013 edited
    @johnjones: Yes, Superman II was my favorite of the bunch.

    @TF: I don't know how I feel about that. There are a few films on that list I really don't care for - Avatar, Star Wars Prequels, Prometheus. I'm not really feeling this JJ Abrams Star Trek thing, either. Anyway, I'll go and see Man of Steel in a few days.

    I enjoyed reading World War Z a few years back; all that mental stuff with the Battle of Yonkers, zombies frozen in ice, Japanese bloke trying to escape from a block of flats, solitary bird with her radio set etc. I'm going to go and see it, but with an open mind to avoid disappointment.
    • CommentAuthormanglr
    • CommentTimeJun 15th 2013

    The only thing World War Z the movie shares with the book is the title. Best to think of it as 'Brad Pitt's Zombie movie' and avoid the comparison altogether.
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    "homages" to AVATAR, STAR WARS, THOR, etc.

    That means it's a referendum. Which means it was conscious and deliberate. The creators decided to ask, "where does Superman fit among the popular films of our time?" "Does he still have a place?"

    Anyway, going to see it in a few hours.
  7.  (11051.18)
    Saw Man of Steel. I liked it, but didn't love it. What saved it were the action scenes (finally Superman has some big action scenes) and Costner and Laine giving the movie some warmth. I hope it does well enough to undo the damage that the Green Lantern movie did.
    Interesting for all of Nolan's "Batman and Superman don't share a universe" that there was a Wayne Industries satellite.
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeJun 15th 2013
    I have a few words I'd like to say to anyone who thinks the Christoper Reeve Superman film is the bestest Superman ever:

    'Can you read my mind?'
    • CommentTimeJun 15th 2013 edited
    I was going to see Man of Steel, but I ran out of time and went to see This Is The End instead. This was a horror-comedy that actually brought horror and comedy. While there was certainly plenty parody as one could expect from actors playing "themselves," there was a surprisingly meaty and sweet core to the movie in the relationship between Jay and Seth. I don't think it's much of a spoiler to say the movie left very little room for sequels, I'd welcome them if they came. Seriously, This Is The End. This Really Is The End. Seriously, No Kidding Around, This Really Is The End.