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    we were joking here at work if you had to make an American remake of Oldboy, who would be a more suitable or interesting choice for the lead. I said Paul Giamatti. I can imagine him with that high pitched voice cracking "you muthafucka!" while weilding a hammer
    • CommentAuthorandycon
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2013
    Hotel/Prison ripped Giamatti would make me shit my pants
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2013
    And he CAN do badass pretty well.

      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2013 edited
    Giamatti could pull it off, but if we're going for absurd casting, I can think of no one who plays "fat, drunk, unassuming schlub" better than this guy:

    And I say that as a huge fan. Imagine Oswalt with the hammer. Admit it, you scream-laughed, just a little bit.
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    I'd watch an "Oldboy" film starring Oswalt in a heartbeat. I think he probably could put it off for real after seeing "Big Fan".
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2013
    Pacific Rim was great. It's not just robots punching monsters. Well... the robots in it don't actually always do so well at that and every fight they're in has massive stakes and consequences. There's no love interest or hero's journey, but it's got an emotional core that makes you care about the characters.

    Oh. And there's a dog. And a kid. And Godzooky. But they're actually all okay and the kid puts in an astonishing performance in the few scenes she's got.

    It didn't just make me think of Gundam and Evangelion and Gojira, but Lovecraft and even The Kraken Wakes too. It could have been a sequel to Cloverfield and the future of Charlie Stross' Laundry books.

    Which all means that it's not just a big summer popcorn movie. Although it's one of the very best of those. It's riding a weird zeitgeist wave that's breaking at the singularity of a lot of genre fiction of the past century or so.

    The soundtrack's excellent too. There's a Tom Morello riff that goes through it, which pretty much means 'prepare for awesome' whenever it starts.

    Go and see it this weekend, so they make more of this sort of thing, and it's not yet another great film like Dredd, that doesn't get the attention it deserves.
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    I forgot to mention that you should stick around during the credits of "Pacific Rim". There's a fun little extra scene at the midway point of the end credits.
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2013
    And something else right at the end.
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    @ Oddcult - I missed that because I had to leave. What did I miss?
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2013 edited
    Very much enjoyed Pacific Rim. The plot hits pretty much every note you expect it to, but the action is stellar and the whole thing is beautiful. Idris Elba steals every scene he's in. It's also probably the most worthwhile use of IMAX that I've attended. As a bonus, I managed to snag a few of these lovely posters:

    I just realized that one of the kaijus is killed in the exact same way a shark is in the Sharknado trailer.
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    The soundtrack's excellent too. There's a Tom Morello riff that goes through it, which pretty much means 'prepare for awesome' whenever it starts.
    This riff is basically Pacific Rim's 'Highway to the Danger Zone' and it's fucking perfect and awesome. I kind of want to make it my new ringtone.
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2013
    Don't just talk about the music. Listen to it!

    Composer is Ramin Djawadi, who does Game of Thrones.
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    Aaaaaugh we're not getting Pacific Rim in Norway for another three freaking weeks. Please be careful about spoiler tags!

    I've really been looking forward to this movie. I swear, if anyone spoils it I will be throwing so many Game of Thrones spoilers for the next four seasons their way. :D
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    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2013 edited
    So we shouldn't mention that the main general for the jaegers is actually a nine year old genius who thinks the whole thing is a simulation?


    Patton Oswalt can do tough, just not he-man tough. Go check him out in the fourth season of Justified.
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2013
    It's worth noting that Pacific Rim hasn't opened overseas yet, where it is expected to do better. I'd be surprised if it doesn't at least end up being profitable.
      CommentAuthorPaul Sizer
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2013
    PACIFIC RIM made me really happy, and showed that Del Toro really loved the source inspiration material enough to be bold and just toss everything that needed to be in there IN THERE. Quirky cast? Insane action? Bad Ass Girl? Funny mascots/pets? Rousing speeches? All there, along with a surprising heart to it all, and not gooed up with syrupy sentiment and gushy romance, but respect, connection and growth.

    Yes, the monsters and robots were amazing, but I wanted to see what happened to the humans as well.

    It's not quite quippy and rock-em sock-em as most jock audiences in the US will expect, but this one is a real winner in my book, and will get plenty of love in parts of the world where audiences haven't been pounded into stupidity with shit like TRANSFORMERS.
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2013
    @Flabyo: As soon as I read "Ramin Djwadi" I went "of course!" He did the soundtrack for Iron Man (at least the first one, maybe sequels), and the Pacific Rim soundtrack really reminds me of that.
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2013
    @DJ - The UK doesn't count as overseas to Hollywood? I guess I shouldn't be surprised...
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2013 edited
    Right PAC-RIM!
    It was an incredible lot of fun. I was annoyed when they showed me the oil tanker in the trailer, because I got the sense they were giving up all the money shots before seeing the film, and I was more or less right. It was still exciting to see them on the BIG SCREEN, but Rocket Punch and stuff like that didn't have the HOLY SHIT!!! effect they would have had if they'd come as surprises.

    I felt like whenever the Jaegers powered down, the movie lagged something serious. The character beats were really ham-fisted and I didn't feel like the Drift was used as much as it could. Instead, there was a lot of testosterone-spraying as the muscly, manly men were alternating between patronising, defending and insulting the ONLY major female character in the film. I don't want all films to be liberal, feminist films, but come on. Yes, she's capable, but on a CHARACTER level, she never really got the chance to shine in the way the others did. She ran around being really awkward and shy and deferential most of the time. She never quite got to grow up from the Frightened Little Girl, despite what any last minute pep talks try to shoehorn in. That having been said: Thank FUCK they went the way they did in the final moments and didn't do... that. You know what.

    Me and my friend were both crossing our fingers mouthing "Don't kiss. Don't kiss. Don't kiss."

    They spent a lot of time with the characters, but not enough time DEVELOPING them. Del Toro had a 400-page bible of info on the Kaiju, the Jaegers, the economic and political impacts of all this stuff, etc... And I can't help but feel like they could have put SOME of that effort into the characters as well.

    So yeah. That was a bit "meh" but on the other hand: SO MUCH FUN!!! I did not start looking at my watch, which is usually something I instinctively start to do around 90 minutes into a film. It was funny, exciting and balls-out crazy in all the ways Transformers wasn't. so when are we going to get to play the Prequel Game? :D