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    johnjones: Yes I know, but you kind of missed the point there :)
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      CommentAuthorcurb
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2013
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    I haven't seen the World War Z movie, so can't comment either way on how good it is, or how well it succeeds as an adaptation.

    However, FWIW, I'd love to see a straight 'documentary 'adaptation of the book, shot as a series of interviews intercut with found footage, TV news, aerial photography, a few snappy infographics and the like. If you got a strong cast of relatively unknown actors and a decent narrator, I reckon you could sell a lot of the horror and spectacle just through dialogue and good editing, rather than a huge cast, multiple locations and a massive effects budget.

    *Escapes into fantasy and awaits his call from Hollywood*
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    curb: YES, I would camp out to get a ticket to that film, but it would be silly since there would be no lines, but I WOULD CAMP OUT NEVERTHELESS.
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      CommentAuthorcurb
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2013
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    Hah, cheers! I will save you a front row seat at the otherwise empty premier!
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    Since WWZ didn't have that much to do with the book, they could still do a Ken Burns documentary style television show and capitalize on the popularity of the movie while giving the fans of the book something to be happy about.
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    "doing an action thriller of a single elf warrior trying to unite his family during an orc onslaught, and calling it Lord of the Rings."

    If CROSSED were adapted into a PG-13 movie, do you really think it would be much different than this?
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2013
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    @ Vornaskotti

    I got your point. I just disagreed with it. I wouldn't be interested in a WWZ "documentary" as a film. However, like William Joseph Dunn, I would watch the hell out of that as a television series. As a TV series, you'd have the time to properly explore each episode/interview as an anthology. That format would work really well for a more direct adaption of WWZ.
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      CommentAuthorVornaskotti
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2013 edited
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    @johnjones:

    Not really, since my only point with the LotR things was to give sort of a satiric comparison to people who said they haven't read the book and don't care about the difference, and "what's the point in complaining about that in any case since it's a good film by itself": I wonder if the fans of LotR would've liked the film I described done and marketed as THE Lord of the Rings film, no matter how fun and action packed it might be as a movie. That was my point and the only point with the LotR comparison.

    No, I don't think a film can or even in most cases should replicate a novel blow-by-blow, but I think there should be enough of the same that the writer himself would recognize his work, not just the title on the poster. A good example of a great adaptation would be Shining - it kept the characters, the theme, the overall plot, and just nudged them a bit. The "WWZ adaptation" of that would be a film of a group of tourists harassed by ghosts in a Brazilian holiday resort. That might be an awesome movie, but what would have it to do with Shining?

    How to adapt WWZ into a more faithful film is a whole other discussion here.
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      CommentAuthortaphead
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2013
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    I just feel Stephen King's response to Kubrick's version of The Shining needs to be linked here. It's nowhere as drastic as the difference between WWZ The Novel vs WWZ The Movie, but still...
    • CommentAuthormanglr
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2013
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    At the risk of wasting cyber-ink on a bad film...even aside from the lack of adaptation from the original. The problems that I had with Pitt's WWZ were more in the ham-fisted solution (and it's related foreshadowing) to the zombie problem and the overall lack of sense that makes when combined with the 'this is only the beginning' style epilogue. Lazy screen writing abounded in that film, and they pushed in the awful fast zombie concept to cover up the lack of logic with big action.

    On the plus side, seeing Peter Capaldi in the last act was a nice surprise...and yes, it wasn't a terrible actioner...but it could have been something much better.

    Obviously mileage may vary from viewer to viewer, and it's hardly worth even a minor quibble of internet arguing over...
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    Anyone see the Conjuring?

    It was actually pretty great. Dumb but in the sort of dumb I love. Patrick Wilson has the most incredible fashion sense and side burns.

    The trailers before it were hilariously out of place(all action and that bottom dregs end of summer comedy that comes out every august). One in particular, titled Getaway, amused me because the title had me thinking of GOB Bluth.

    That's just bad timing for that movie.
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      CommentAuthorcurb
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2013
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    Red 2 not doing so well with the reviewers. Shame. Still, I guess Warren's already gotten his pony money from it.

    @maglr Peter Capaldi, eh? He's also rumoured to be cast as the 12th Doctor. Huge pinch of salt required there, obviously, but that could be interesting ...
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      CommentAuthortaphead
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2013
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    Tonight's lighthearted viewing was KILL LIST.

    It's a dismally mundane (and unflinchingly violent) story of a pair of UK hitmen, except not even a little bit. Steer clear of plot synopses if you intend to watch this. There is a mystery therein.

    I think I'll have to wait for my pulse to come down a little bit before I can muster more comments.

    (I seem to have a thing for these teeth-grindingly intense affairs, like MARTHA MARCY MAY MARLENE, RED WHITE & BLUE.)

    Just the one comment for now:

    And oh how appropriately the mystery was handled on this one.
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      CommentAuthorsebfowler
    • CommentTimeAug 2nd 2013
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    @taphead - I haven't seen Kill List yet, but I loved his other films, so I'm planning to track it down. I highly recommend Sightseers and just saw his brand new one, A Field In England, a couple of nights ago. Utterly bizarre and highly enjoyable.
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    Pacific Rim FINALLY came out in Norway, and I just have to say aaaaaaaaugh.

    So good.
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    Addendum that sorta spoils the final bits of Pacific Rim:
    I wanna see a Cabin in the Woods-style deconstruction of the "I'mma send my beloved partner to safety while I do the final bit that saves the world alone" trope.

    Because it happens WAY WAY WAY TOO MUCH.

    I get the emotional reasons. But practically, every single time this happens, the character who stays behind to potentially heroically sacrifice him or herself, said character winds up getting in trouble and just barely saving the world in the nick of time. Happened to Bruce Willis in Armageddon, happened to Raleigh here.

    This is the WORLD at stake. Other people have already WILLINGLY SACRIFICED THEMSELVES SO THAT THIS PLAN SHOULD WORK.

    Goddammit, you keep BOTH freaking pilots there to make sure the goddamned job gets DONE, and THEN you can think about who gets to be heroically sacrificed for whom.

    So yeah. I wanna see the movie where that goes wrong. "Well, that's my beloved partner sent back. Now to just activate the bomb that saves humanity and OW OW MY FOOT GOT CRUSHED AND I CAN'T MOVE. If only I had my partner here to finish the job with me!" And the movie ends with the monster or asteroid or whatever coming down on humanity, while the partner who got sent back watches helplessly.
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    Great interview with Guillermo del Toro on KCRW's The Treatment:

    http://www.kcrw.com/etc/programs/tt/tt130802guillermo_del_toro_p

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    Finally saw PACIFIC RIM last week and utterly loved it. Having the fights with the kaiju at night and sometimes in the rain made it harder to watch, but it also made the kaiju look more menacing courtesy of my imagination. Loved the performances by Idris Elba, Rinko Kikuchi, Burn Gorman, Charlie Day, and Ron Perlman. Charlie Hunnam was good, especially in those moments when his shirt came off. Bring on PACIFIC RIM 2!

    I also caught the critically acclaimed FRUITVALE STATION the other day, and was underwhelmed by it. It took Oscar Grant's real-life unjust death and robbed it of any significance other than "Wow, you never know when today will be your last day of life." The minor character of Katie came off looking like an implausible plot device. At least the portrait of Grant's community had its loving moments.
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    This week I saw THE CREMATOR, a 1969 film directed by Juraj Herz. It's a lesser known addition to the canon of Czech New Wave films of the '60s/70s. Set in austria of the 1930s it tells the story of a man who runs the local crematorium and is obsessed with Tibetan spirituality and the idea of burning the bodies of the dead "To free their souls and save them." As the Nazi make inroads into the country, he comes to embrace their ideas of purity and strength and he gradually turns into a total monster.

    Excellent movie. The acting of the lead character Kopfrkingl by Rudolf Hrušínský is utterly unnerving and mesmerizing. The also uses surrealist cinematography to great effect to portray the warped reality of a person who´s slowly losing his mind to fascist ideology.

    Oh and fascism is totes bad, m'kay?
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    @ icelandbob - that movie poster is badass!