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      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2013 edited
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    Who's "been there," and what did you see?

    EDIT for CLARIFICATION: The "Deep Web," as it's normally defined, are urls that are not listed in any search engine, and as thus are not easy to stumble onto or gain access to without some pretty in-depth knowledge of how computers in general and the internet in particular works. As to what's actually on the Deep Web, you've got everything from the Silk Road, a forum built around the selling, buying, smuggling, and other business of illegal drugs; all the way to databases owned and maintained by just about every government agency you could care to name.

    Some people, of course, just like to go and take a look at the weirdness that grows there. I was wondering if anyone on Whitechapel had, and if they'd be willing to tell what they saw.
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      CommentAuthoroldhat
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2013
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    ...mind elaborating for those who don't know what you're talking about?
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    Isn't the Deep Web where you buy illegal shit. Like the black market on the internet?
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    I've read a few creepypastas from the Deep Web and I was deeply disturbed.

    I'm still working up the courage for a real incursion. I'm a trooper mentally, but I have limits.

    Also, the Silk Road was shut down this week because the operator was arrested for conspiracy to commit murder.
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      CommentAuthorFishelle
    • CommentTimeOct 8th 2013
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    How does one even enter the Deep Web? Wouldn't it have to be the same place as the rest of the web?
    • CommentAuthorandycon
    • CommentTimeOct 8th 2013
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    I was wondering this as well but thought googling it might NSA me.

    Was Silk Road just like www.silkroad.com into my browser and I just needed to know its name?
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      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeOct 8th 2013
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    More or less, though the url was, I think, significantly more complicated than that. It was the sort of thing someone would have to send to you as a link, or maybe evne in person on a sticky note.
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeOct 9th 2013
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    If it's just defined as 'that part which a search engine doesn't index', then most of it was the deepnet when I was at uni... I remember when you had to manually submit your site to search engines if you wanted it documented...

    I am old.
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    Silk road would not work through a regular browser, as most ISPs had blocked it. Instead you had to use something like the TOR browser to get to it (interesting aside, did anyone else know that TOR was developed and is still funded by the US Navy?)
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      CommentAuthorcjkoger
    • CommentTimeOct 9th 2013
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    Scrymgeour That is pretty crazy, but maybe not too surprising. Besides tons of CP and illegal activity, it looks like TOR and Tails and such are being used by people in N. Korea, China, and some other blocked parts of the world to weasel out into the larger internet, and use DW to post and organize even at times.
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    It's not just a question of ISP blocking - while TOR is often just used as a routing/anonymising layer where a TOR exit node just connects up to a normal website, it's also possible to host a site that lives inside the TOR network. Out of boredom and curiosity I went and poked about on Silk Road a month or two back just to see what the fuss was about. It had a Gumtree-esque flakiness to it. I didn't buy anything, lucky really since I probgably had that Javascript vulnerability that got all those people arrested a week later.
    I also ran FreeNet for a little while (for similar curiosity/boredom reasons), but when you have to run a server for a few days before you can find anything, nothing outside the network can be acccessed, and stuff is able to fall off or just go missing for a bit... well you can probably guess that the only people using it were people invested in the project (but with nothing to publish) and people who really needed the privacy. So a mixture of early-Geocities style "here is my dog" pages and episodic accounts from people claiming to be active serial killers. Neither of which would load properly.
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    Yeah, and TOR is super fucking slow, I mean seriously, its quicker to go to Columbia