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    It's Thursday! It's mid-afternoon in London! It's another wrongheaded morning in Mericky! It's who-the-fuck-knows-when in Australia! It's time for more Crossed Hideosity!

    Episode 65, live and free-to-air.


    Remember: Not safe for work, not safe for minors, not safe for people of a nervous disposition, not safe for delahaye, not safe for the Radio Times, not safe for the HPDC.
    • CommentAuthorblighty
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2013
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    jesus christ. a damaged baby traded for a chance at a healthy one. cava down a leader, a fighter, most of their weapons. Jackson no longer friendly. and i have a bad feeling about the boat people's attack on the nun's horde. another amazing issue. going back and re-reading from the beginning, this is such a fantastic epic, and a grueling character study.
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    It's like a smorgasbord of nice horrible things! Norrible things?

    I know it's wrong, but Shaky was hilarious this issue.

    Shaky looking at Don in horror like they're best fuckin friends!

    Helpless at the end. It's a miracle he didn't start yelling, "It's not my fault! It's not my fault!"

    Elisa RIP sad face.
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    Been lurking and enjoying the banter, but haven't commented in ages. Mainly because there's nothing more to say each week than:

    "Fuck. Mah. Balls. That was a fan-fucking-tastic chapter."

    Gotta agree with Blighty -- this is one hell of an analysis of character. I can only imagine how fun/tedious/exhausting/exciting it must be to be on the other side of the curtain playing puppeteer to this motley group of sneaky fucks... And Shaky, the sneakiest, fuckiest fuck of them all, though for all of his backdoor shenanigans he always seems to have a hint of good intention in there and is perfectly content with being the unsung (anti)hero. Can't wait for the next chapter to see how they handle this colossal fuck up back on Cava. I bet Rab can instantly smell the sneak on Shaky! Okay, there I go speculating. Enough of that...

    Part of me can't wait for this story to end so that the ulcer in my stomach (which was no doubt caused by the anxiety and anticipation of each episode of WYWH) might actually heal, but the masochist in me never wants this story to end. Everyone knows this ends with the Crossed dragging Shaky from the lookout pole, but I kind of like the idea of NEVER getting to that point in the story. Kind of like that sitcom "How I Met Your Mother" except it's more like "How I Got Arse Raped And Cannibalized By An Evil Cunt Of A Nun Demon That I Am In Love With."

    Oh, and the latest arc of Badlands was immensely entertaining as well, though I feel it could have been stretched into 6 - 9 issues! I'm also looking forward to issue 6 of Six Gun -- been enjoying the shit out of that little story.

    Okay.

    </complement spray down>

    PS - Way to let the yanks get a win. We thank you, from across the pond.

    PPS - Though I'm sure they're inevitably fucked anyways so I take that 'thank you' back.
    • CommentAuthorSlicknick
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2013
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    I agree I haven't commented in forever because each issue for so long has just been building the tension for this moment that there has not been much to say. but now that Its gone down we can all reflect on the shit coming close to coming down even harder soon. This issue changed a lot of group dynamic, while reinforcing the one thing we know about shaky for sure. His loyalty is to the island. his little games he has played have all been for what he could argue as for the greater good of the island and himself.

    What I like about SI is that he introduces ideas, lets those ideas boil, and pays everything off in unexpected ways. The badlands arc is a good example of that. I feel badlands suffers from the short nature of the stories. I think longer arcs over there would benefit if they were more fleshed out. but the ending of Si's last arc was PERFECT. I hate gushing but goddamn That biker arc is up there with gages last arc about Oliver.

    I think syline has a bigger role to play. not sure what but I can feel it. Go team America!

    @voteforduval I never want WYWH to end It is the perfect iteration of the crossed universe. Even if we eventually don't follow shaky I would love to see SI continue writing in the crossed universe. There is so much room for more that When shaky eventually meets his inevitable doom I could see a new weekly long form story take over studying even more characters. don't leave us SI.
    • CommentAuthorMrMonk
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2013
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    I felt a little sick after that episode. Probably because it wasn't the Crossed doing it.
    • CommentAuthorRJF
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2013
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    So... no-one's calling Jackson out on the fact that he killed (at best brain-damaged) a baby just to let his new boss Dora score a point?
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    Well, sure, if this was an episode of Superman. The hero disarms the villain with minimal contact and returns the innocent to safety before flying away to do another GOOD DEED.

    Jackson's not a hero. He's barely sane in the first place. But the captain is giving him the best chance they have of getting rid of the Crossed threat for good. Don was fucking up the plan. They're lucky he didn't just kill them all.
    • CommentAuthormaxnutter
    • CommentTimeOct 25th 2013
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    brilliant stuff!!
    • CommentAuthorblighty
    • CommentTimeOct 25th 2013
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    @RJF The baby is dead. Dora basically decided to sacrifice the crippled infant in order to both end the standoff as well as to take the pregnant Tabitha on board in the hope that her child can be healthy. Christ, this arc was really harsh. What with the Cava-ites basically doing something so EVIL, given the circumstances (How dare you attack some of the few remaining humans, and for such shit reasons, fuck me!), and then the brutal decision by Dora. WYWH has really gotten better and better as it has gone on. When read in a binge, the pacing is really just about perfect.
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    @RJF: This was her whole crew at stake. When you're dealing with someone who's willing to put a gun to a baby's head, while in the middle of trying to loot and cripple your way of living, you may realize that there's simply no way you can trust them. So upon realizing that 1) the baby could already be dead, and 2) letting the ones holding the baby hostage have their way is most likely even worse than losing a baby... You make the calculation and, in a post-Crossed every-resource-counts world, you let the baby die.

    Prediction time! I will do this week's prediction in WYWH-end-of-post-crossedspeak:

    BEATBACKYERYANKS!

    GOTYERPREGGERSWHORE!
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    You guys realize that babies can get dropped on their head once in a while right? Its WHY we have skulls which get thicker in response to that. Hell the average parent has dropped his child once or twice. It's perfectly normal, and you've probably fallen once or twice either by your mom or the nurse. The more you know.

    Once again y'all seem to be stuck in Crossed vision lol, lets just calm down.

    Remember when y'all thought the oil tanker was full of slaves or corpses or whatever? Y'all so silly.
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    Not from 1.5m onto a steel deck. At babe-in-arms size skulls are fragile and so are brains. Not likely survivable. That no-one checked and that the mother didn't touch the child bothers me, but aside from that it works as a narrative.
    • CommentAuthorblighty
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2013
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    Yeah, the baby is definitely dead. Hence the use of the word 'crumpling'. Also, the puddle of blood that spreads from it, the reactions by everyone including the mother, etc. I was talking with a friend of mine and he raised the spectre of the Nun getting hold of Tabitha as well (as noted above). So many hideous possibilities. On another note, I really liked the construction of the big splash page when Jackson threw the knife. On a computer screen, it worked incredibly well as the eye starts with Jackson in his action pose on the left, follows the text to the right, then there is the 'never. made. a. sound' bit that staircases downwards, causing you to scroll downward, revealing the knife in the neck. There is a minimum of text, which allows you to read it fast enough, that the movement of your eyes combined with scrolling downward grants the scene movement. Also great work by the artist(Melek) again on Don's facial expression when he asked how the boat people knew they were coming followed by a fantastic reaction shot of Shaky who is anticipating yet another "Shaky told us" just seconds after the previous one lol.
    • CommentAuthormaxnutter
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2013
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    Didn't Shakey told Dora to take Tabitha?

    All part of his big plan, although I don't think the three deaths were...
    • CommentAuthorMrBogey
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2013
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    I think he did. I suppose the plan was Dora busts them, disarms them, and then takes Tabitha hostage. Don fucked it up with the baby gambit. Dora followed through.
    • CommentAuthorgragh46
    • CommentTimeOct 27th 2013
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    Long-ish time reader, first time posting. Because this chapter was way too awesome :O

    I knew Don was done for as soon as he had the retarded idea of pointing a gun at a baby, but I didn't expect said baby to die as well. Same for Elisa, RIP to one badass girl.

    And I suppose it's too much to hope for Tabitha to live happily ever after away from Cava, right?
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    Kay and blighty I get what you guys are saying I do...but there's a reason I said its a misconception. Yeah the baby might have a head wound, you would do from falling down. However, the idea that a baby can't survive a fall from 1.5meters is pretty laughable.

    Honestly you would be shocked by the amount of babies that have been dropped from a variety of angles, heights, materials, and floor substances. For instance I googled "baby falls on metal floor".....and I got 41.8 MILLION results. That sir is a LOT of very bruised babies with a lot of thick skulls. Feel free to search it yourself and read all the various tales of parental clumsiness to your desire. In fact you change the terms to the general "I dropped my baby on his head" and that is around 19 million results.

    I told y'all you fearing over nothing, yeah baby got a boo boo and hit his head a little hard, but then again EVERYONE including you and me have all been dropped from around that distance anyways. Granted the sheer quantity of babies with lumps on their heads may also be a bit of nightmare fuel too, but it happens and thanks to evolution and whatnot, we can live through it quite well.

    Trust the baby man, he got it.

    BabyGains
    • CommentAuthorblighty
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2013
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    Lol SenorSmoothie. It is true, kids are certainly rather more durable than you might think. My little guy bumbles around, has taken his share of bumps and falls, sure he's fine. I don't think anyone is disputing that kids can fall, even land on their heads, and survive. But sometimes they don't. And in this instance, this particular baby did not.
    • CommentAuthorstevej
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2013
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    I've been reading since Ep. 1, can't keep from posting any longer.

    As my screen refreshed to the next page after Cap'n Dora said "Mr. Jackson...", I held my breath anticipating how he would take Don out. I was not disappointed.

    @RJF: Jackson did the calculus and took the necessary action to defuse the situation. The fact that his knife was lodged in Don's throat before Dora finished her sentence makes it more or less incidental that she asked him to act. The impact on the baby was a risk, but again it's calculus: risk hurting a crippled baby that would probably not survive for long in the Crossed world in order to secure the possibility of a healthier baby (that still might not survive for long in the Crossed world). There's no win-win in the Crossed world.

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