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    It's Thursday! It's mid-afternoon in London! It's another wrongheaded morning in Mericky! Everyone in Australia is dead from spiders and snakes and poisonous accents, apparently. And it's time for more Crossed hideosity!

    Episode 77, live and free-to-air.

    Remember: Not safe for work, not safe for minors, not safe for people of a nervous disposition, not safe for Lego dairies.
    • CommentAuthorlxvz
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014 edited
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    (Hi there. It's me again--don't mind me, just dropping in in this thread to say that I updated my list of chapters' summaries. And uploaded it to a free host, too. (Sorry for whoever's bookmarked the previous URL, at jsbin.com; I don't think it's possible to update it there). By the way, their ToS prevent adult content; we'll see whether they consider summaries of such adult themselves. I hope not! Anyway, http://crossed-wywh-episodes.comli.com/ . By the way, I'm quite fond of the first line of the summary of 4:1, if I'm allowed to say that myself).

    (Edit: and I only now noticed that while I generally (with effort) remember that in WYWH, "episodes" are called "chapters", I forgot about it in the very URL of the list. Oh well. Sorry all. At least perhaps it will rank higher in Google that way, if it's the more common term.)

    (Oh, and and and and: if it does get removed per a ToS violation, I will, uh, not post it for the third time with a third URL... I'll just... I don't know, put it in my signature and post more, or something!)

    (Edit: added interludes).
    • CommentAuthorWulvereen
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014
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    "Kinda salty" Knew from that moment he was gonna turn, Chekhov's Gun right there.
    We're losing a lot of people very quickly all of a sudden, as Shakey said "Critical mass" tension can only build up so long, and with very few people left to kill off...this series looks to be almost finished, can't wait for the big finale, I know it's going to be great!
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      CommentAuthorLBA
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014 edited
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    so it was meant to turn Shakey but Des just got in the way. Lucky Lucky Lucky bastard once again
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    Never ever ever ever ever ever lick something that came from the Crossed.

    ... is a lesson you learn after something like that. Licking an envelope is one of those actions that's so ingrained in some people, you don't even think about it until it's too late.

    I wonder if that fate was meant for Shaky.
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      CommentAuthorMalkydel
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014
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    Yeah, I'd have thought that any thought of licking ANYTHING would have swiftly died out in a Crossed world. Then again its that war between common sense and habit.

    Christ alive though. We may be losing them fast but so far there's a greater ratio of people I didn't like to those I did.

    Wonder how the surrounding Plussies will react to the wrong turning and his inevitable dispatch.
    • CommentAuthorNo Fear
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014
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    Which also makes me think, how long do things remain infected? Shaky's had that envelope for a while, and it was still lethal. Makes you think with dead bodies around and other stuff, even though disposed of, just how safe things ever are. Not very, is the obvious answer. Presumably all you would need to do to turn is prick yourself on something sharp that had old crossed blood on it, and pow, game over.
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      CommentAuthorddavie
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014
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    I won't even lick an envelope in real life - this turd is willing to do it in the land of "touch anything and probably turn into a murder-rapey psychotic?! HOLY FRIJOLES DESMOND! Yer fucked in the head my friend! :-|

    Frankly, I really liked Des, and for all the reasons Shaky was just goin' on about, but the MOMENT I read the words "give it 'ere" I knew he was a goner. And ordinarily I'd have said something along the lines of "the dumb-fuck deserves it...every fuckin' inch of it right along with the bullet he's gonna' get from behind"; but, because he literally admits to "lookin' forward to this" I believe the story is written that way, in order to ensure we as readers DO in fact assume, that Des is assuming, licking the envelope would give him that release he's been craving. Then of course it's obvious, exactly why he told Shaky to give it to him...so he could turn not just instead of Shaky, but because he desired the turn for god knows how long now.

    (jesus christ.......that reads back even to myself as confusing - hopefully it makes enough sense for y'all to get my drift there, sorry about that. Yuck for my vernacular today...)

    Nevertheless, I am both beyond stoked for every page turn and a little sorry because I, like so many others, feel like we're getting to the bitter end soon. Granted, it had to end sometime but I could have read this for EONS and have so thoroughly enjoyed every single page of "WYWH". Definitely seems like we're coming to a head though - critical mass and all that.
    • CommentAuthorblighty
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014 edited
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    Des did not know that licking the envelope would turn him. Look at his face right after he realizes there was a wrong, salty taste. Incidentally, more great work by the artist here. Melek really nails facial expressions.
    • CommentAuthorgragh46
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014
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    I took Des' "looking forward to it" line to mean that deep down, he just wanted to be done with the current shitty, hatred-filled life he had been leading ever since he lost his son, and hence the long confession he makes to Shaky about his backstory and what he had become, and why he asks him to tell his daughter that he loves her: As he sees his incoming turn/death, he is finally "purified" of all the hatred that has been haunting him.

    I mean, Des has volunteered and actively seeked violence and/or his death for the entire length of this story: when the one who ended up dying was Jon, all that rage at not being chosen for the sortie and later at Shaky for having cheated his way into it...

    And I'm still not sure if it was Teresa's intention to turn Shaky or someone sabotaged her plans of simply meeting him. I mean, her followers have enough self control to not go all rape-kill as they see survivors, so if her intention is simply to turn Shaky, wouldn't it have been easier to be in the boats guarding the coast, aiming her hand at the boat Shaky was in, and turning every survivor in that boat, for instance? A forgery / dirty trick to get him turned doesn't sound like something Teresa would have even considered doing before turning, but then again, we don't know how much remains of the original person in the crossed version
    • CommentAuthorblighty
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014
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    I agree with you on Des, gragh. I was thinking on the Nun's intentions as well. I wonder why she just didn't have her minions that are basically surrounding him in town to just grab him. Unless they can't be trusted to hold back that much(which occurred to me since instead of sending, say, one of the soldiers to shadow the sortie, she sent Ashoke. Presumably because he had more self-control). I assume that the envelope was infected to turn Shaky. As kind of a shortcut. She doesn't want him killed, and trying to take him in the boat or something like that would be putting him in danger.
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      CommentAuthorddavie
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014
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    I did see his face...the people and the words are tough to miss. (And Melek IS an absolute genius! (I certainly don't have to be correct, but those were still my knee jerk reactions.))

    The "surprise" could just as easily be part of his desire in "looking forward to it" while being shocked to death at his own [unconscious?] action causing him to pull the trigger on himself. It's just what I got when I read it.
    • CommentAuthorShan
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014
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    I winced the moment I saw Des lick that envelope.
    • CommentAuthorShan
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014
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    Of course this leads to another question that had been worrying me from the very first page, why why why why why would anyone be going with Shaky?
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    Heh, I guess Des never watched Return of the Jedi as a kid. ;)

    In just one chapter Des gained far more depth to his character than previous, and his behavior all this time makes so much more sense. Kudos to Si for the writing, and also kudos to Melek for getting the facial expressions so right. Also makes Shaky's wish earlier in the chapter that he was more like Des that much more ironic, as Des' existence really wasn't any better than his, what with the all-consuming hatred that was his only way of coping with the loss of his son and his cowardice in that event. I doubt fucking Sofia the Spanish mute ever did anything to alleviate his own misery. Ultimately, I think Des was a death-seeker, kind of like the black guy in the original series who lost his family, only Des' desire manifested in different ways. Despite the tragedy, it was nonetheless impressive (and touching) to see Des fighting the infection long enough to convey his last message to his daughter to Shaky, even with the Crossed font already starting to intersperse with his normal speech.

    As soon as Des uttered the "kinda salty" words I also knew he was doomed. Which lends its own brand of nightmare fuel as was previously mentioned a few posts ago. As Shaky had the envelope with him for months and it still infected Des, who can say what things are safe and what aren't? Any mundane thing could have been turned into a "landmine" of sorts through the use of Crossed bodily fluids and other "substances". Are Shaky's clothes even safe, as he must have carried the envelope in his pants? Well presumably yes, or else he would have turned ages ago, but I'm sure the idea would freak him out nonetheless.

    Interesting seeing the first hints about the disaster that ultimately turned Aoileann and Moses and led to who knows what sort of unspeakable fate for the children. Envy. It can be a powerful and destructive motivator indeed. I chuckled when Shaky mentioned that Moses' argument was the same he'd used "a billion times". However, unlike Shaky, Moses was a priest - even if an Anglican one - and so he arguably had more clout in that matter for Aoileann than Shaky did, which would naturally piss anyone off in Shaky's shoes. Also nice touch by Melek in showing the kids looking bored in the background while Shaky's reading to them in an effort to keep them calm, in contrast to their behavior around Aoileann. Another hint that unlike Aoileann and Moses, Shaky isn't that "smooth" with children.

    Also, I don't know about Si's view on theological matters, but knowing Garth Ennis' views on the Church and religion in general, Moses' firm belief in God not minding whether or not one smokes, drinks and swears elicited a chuckle from me. I sure know what Harry and Paddy from Fatal Englishman would have said had they been there...
    • CommentAuthorShan
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014
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    On the subject of foreshadowing ... remember the sequence of events which ended with a statement that they now have one claymore mine?
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    Ah. Like, for example, using that last claymore mine to set up a trap and take out Aoileann, Moses and as many of their flunkies as possible at the Standing Stones, for instance?

    Could work, if they're lucky, but it's likely one would have to sacrifice himself/herself like Mr. Massoud in order to do that. And those Crossed that were left would undoubtedly fall on Cava like a ton of bricks with no one left to restrain them.
    • CommentAuthorBig Sven
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014 edited
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    ---And those Crossed that were left would undoubtedly fall on Cava like a ton of bricks with no one left to restrain them.

    "Cut off the head, and the body dies...", isn't that what Jackson said?

    Random thoughts:

    The priest is definitely the ringleader. Ever the good nun, Aoileann submits to the patriarchy even after becoming Crossed.
    Do you suppose that was the Gameskeeper's leg that Aoileann was using way back when to, umm, relieve herself?
    There are very few viruses that can survive outside a living host for more than a day, and a week is pretty much tops. Much less the whole "turning Crossed in fifteen seconds" aspect...
    • CommentAuthorlxvz
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014 edited
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    (Hey. Just dropping in again to say that I made a small update to the list. Added general chapter numbers, links to threads via freakangels.com search engine (only works based on Si's consistency of announcements, which has nonetheless been almost perfect so far), and also "jump to page" function, which at least I find a small time-saver (the default values are page #4 for interludes, which is usually their second page, and page #8 for chapters, which is roughly the middle, which allows one to quickly gauge the chapter's contents. And a Google map, because why not. (The map has no street view option for some reason, which one'd want in this chapter in particular, to see whether Aoileann's house really exists. I hope I'll fix it tomorrow.))

    (Edit: added picturesque (on my OS at least) indicators of having been killed/turned.)
    • CommentAuthordrew455
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2014
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    http://imgur.com/ZhoPhFT - Looks legit!

    Is it next Thursday night yet?

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