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  1.  (11289.21)
    It wasn't the n word. You didn't read the post. I'd just leave it there if I were you.
    • CommentAuthorlxvz
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2014
    I earnestly hope that you're making that last recommendation for the thread's or the board's sake, and not for my own.
  2.  (11289.23)
    Sorry if it read as a personal comment. More that the mods have spoken. There's little need to debate it, as the thread will get pulled.
    • CommentAuthorlxvz
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2014 edited
    To the moderator who's been changing my post's contents, replacing them with videos--I understand your intentions, but as I've been clarifying in subsequent edits to it (which are sadly lost again), my removal of those changes only serves the greater good. I'm not doing it for my own sake anyhow. A post edited in such way might be confusing to new visitors to the board, or worse, give an ambiguous impression (for instance, the impression that I'm thus being derisive of something that happened in the thread). This might be a standard moderating practice here, which I don't know of, but it strikes me as uninformative and thus a bit disrespectful to other posters.

    In other words, deletion is preferable to confusing edition.
  3.  (11289.25)
    Aanyway, here are a few things that were occurring in summer 2008, when C-Day would have happened:

    - The Beijing Olympics
    - The unrest in South Ossetia, which culminated in the Russo-Georgian War
    - The developing global financial crisis, which is considered to have really begun with the collapse of Lehman Brothers on September 15 2008

    I hope that Garth will refer at least a few of these in Patient Zero.
    • CommentAuthorShan
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2014
    @ 111111

    I'm agreeing with you. Whatever causes this passes straight through skin. Typically, bacteria and viruses either can't do that or at least definitely not that fast, which is what that character says in the Badlands #16 preview. We may find out something about the causative agent in the next arc.

    I don't think all the covers are literal, like the more surreal and abstract ones. The recreations (with variation) of famous pictures, poses, fairy tales etc - no. Ditto the ones with weird masonic lodges, pyramids and free masons. The ones which look like they're pastiches from 50's and 60's spy and sci-fi movies (the one with the brains, another with opposing teams of people with bags over their heads trying to seize heads in jars), probably not. Just having some fun with the art as opposed to stories is my guess. I'm thinking most scientists would be running for their lives at that point.

    A lot of the others quite definitely could be different scenes of C-Day all over the world. As for the cave exploration, I like how it's suggesting this isn't the first time there's been a Crossed epidemic from the cave paintings, it's just that with the world so interconnected, this is the first time its gone global. I think it's a good idea to keep an idea on the covers, I think they're sneaking in a lot of background there.

    Even if it's never conclusively stated, it wouldn't surprise me if it's hinted that this is a cyclical thing to periodically cull mankind by nature, this time maybe (or maybe not) being helped along (accidentally or not) by scientists doing things with the original natural form.

    @ Babu Dhakal

    The Beijing Olympics was August 8th to 24th and the Beijing Paralympics was September 6th to 17th. We don't actually know the exact date of C-Day yet, do we? Always possible one or both of these were completed before then I suppose.

    Luckily the Canadians had finally paid off the Olympic stadium for the 1976 Montreal Games by December 2006, so that bullet was dodged at least.
    • CommentAuthor111111
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2014 edited
    as i was going trough crossed covers on comic vine found this




    so if this are not just for art means somebody was fucking with the crossed virus before.
    as i remembered watching hellsing ovas some time ago, nazis made vampires from draculas wife remains, and we have have a lot of movies with nazis making all sort of experiments. in indiana jones they were after ancient artifacts. so maybe they discovered the virus during world war 2 and experiment to make the perfect soldier with no fear no remorse and without concern for personal safety. also in that cover we see one in chains ant the SS soldier without so this means the managed to make the virus controllable. also in hellsing ovas the remaining nazisthat escaped ww2 went to south america to hide, and gather a vampire army. so maybe also in the crossed they went to south america and from there spread the virus during 60 years knowing about the solar explosion that was going to happen in 2008, that is was talking about in my other post , that is going to fuck everybody so they can emerge with their super crossed that they can control to take over the world.
    something like Uber but with a twist.

    Babu Dhakal coment made me curios to google what cosmic or global events took place in 2008 to link it to the crossed plague but i'm too lazy right now, maybe later
    • CommentAuthorBlackblade
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2014 edited
    [Welcome to Whitechapel. Consider this a temporary ban, since you clearly read the warnings and obviously couldn't leave things be.

    Most of the people here are playing nice, but any more crap and I'll just close the thread.]
  4.  (11289.29)
    Also do you think Issue 5 there is taking place before or after the outbreak?
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2014
    For reference, the rules.
    • CommentAuthorlxvz
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2014 edited
    >[...] any more crap and I'll just close the thread

    Shoot the messenger, but don't shoot the messages!

    Preemptive thread-closing is about the worst moderating strategy there is.

    Oh, and before this post of mine contributes to a potential eventual decision to close this thread after all, as off-topic or inflammatory--I would have sent it as a personal message or on a feedback board had I happened to find a way to. And also, as I said in my last post, a moderator is free to delete this post as soon as they read it.
    • CommentAuthorgragh46
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2014
    I have no idea as to wtf was happening in this thread earlier, but since this thread is basically the best place to talk about speculations and randomness, this is a what if scenario:

    Let's assume the Crossed outbreak happens during the middle age times. This means, among other things, no guns of any kind, no fast transportation methods, much lamer and slower means of long reach communication, and a generally tougher kind of humans since most people in this time have been living in pretty harsh conditions, as opposed to most of us being pretty underprepared for a post-apocalyptic scenario due to our dependance in specialization and globalization.

    Would the Crossed outbreak be as destructive as the bloody and pretty hopeless scenario we are all familiar with, even worse on the poor bastards who came across the infected since they don't have cool weapons and the crossed are tough bastards, or less destructive since most people can look after themselves decently enough and the crossed infection probably wouldn't have spread all over the world as fast as in our scenario?

    (I'll probably post my own views on this tomorrow. Its pretty late here and I should go cook myself something for dinner and then to sleep xD)
    • CommentAuthor111111
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2014
    seems like blackblade was referring to my comment. i dont know if he got banned for being an asshole towards me or he made a racial or misogynist comment but i'm not easily offended and i don;t really care but anybody that read his comments can make a short repost of his ideas? without baking the rules of course

    @ gragh46
    well a crossed outbreak in the middle ages couldn't last long. harsh times, food is not easily found. no shopping malls no canned food. crossed hunting? growing crops?

    less ppl. longer distanes to travel and no means of transportation other than boring walks, or horse rides. something that the crossed are not very happy to do, and don't forget in medieval times if an army went to fight the crossed they all hat armors and shields. that means they don;t get easily bitten, pis on etc. the blood from mele combat would have been a problem but like in 300 or the roman formations ppl could be kept at a distance using arrows and spears from behind a wall of shields

    and most probably the virus started from 1 place. nowadays one person could get anywhere in the world in less than 24 hrs. medieval time that is not possible and sometimes take days or even weeks to travel between cities enough time to prepare traps or abandon cities adopting scorched earth tactics leaving nothing to eat for the crossed. or guerrilla tactics hit and run from archers on horses.
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2014
    Nah, aside from a comment he made about how he liked the discussion, Blackblade's comment was for me.
    • CommentAuthorDriveler
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2014
    @ Shan

    What if the Crossed weren't caused by a virus or bacteria but instead by a parasitic eukaryote like malaria? It only turned people into crossed once it reached a certain life stage.
    Or instead of there being a global trigger the virus just wasn't able to develop as quickly at first and had a natural tendency towards acquiring a mutation that enabled it to reproduce in greater number, bypass the immune system with more ease or whatever it would need to infect people and make crossed symptoms appear.
  5.  (11289.36)
    I've not stopped by to go through this thread so far: will be keeping a closer eye from now on. Disappointed that a discussion about the Crossed franchise should threaten to confirm the worst suspicions of its fans' detractors.

    Being a fan of something, no matter how brutal or emotionally disturbing the source material, no matter what extremes of language or hateful behaviour are depicted therein, does not give one a free pass to get away with mimicking the same in a group discussion.

    Oldhat has my back on this one. We want you to discuss, speculate, get excited - and our terms of service are a lot looser, a lot less draconian and a lot simpler than other forums. But any more dickery, any more overexcited offense-wanking and any more surly backchat to the mods and we shall nuke the thread for good.
    • CommentAuthorShan
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2014
    @ Driveler

    I'm sure there's plenty of possibilities. I'm sure the writers are always going to maintain a degree of ambiguity, for starters they're not out to write a scientific textbook. It gives us some room to have a bit of fun speculating. It also avoids getting bogged down in details as there's never going to be a perfect fit from real world science. I quite like the combination of solar flare/cosmic ray activating a prion disease. In the favour of prions, we have to destroy surgical equipment used on people with prion disease (like CJD) we could other sterilise and reuse, so that could be an explanation as to how it passes through skin like it's not there. The fact that prions take years to cause disease could be covered by a new form of prion that had yet to be discovered. Throw in a cosmic ray/solar flare trigger to explain the sudden eruption of violence the world over and you get an explanation that works for me but it doesn't have to be the explanation for everyone.

    Anyway, by leaving some of it up in the air, it allows a number of different explanations can also fit, just as much yours and at the end of the day, the how it happened isn't the be all and end all. We get to have fun filling in the blanks any way we like that isn't a direct contradiction though.
    • CommentAuthorlxvz
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2014
    I figure you could call feedback backchat, although I wouldn't exactly call the managers of this forum "moderators"--not if the term is to stay true to its Latin original meaning.

    Out of concern for this harmless thread, that's being repeatedly imperilled by the managers in their reminders of their capacity to delete it any time (instead of, as I'm repeating again and again, affecting the particular adverse posters), I'm deleting my account, so to assure them that no more feedback/backchat is going to happen here, from me at least. Bye.
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2014
    • CommentAuthorDriveler
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2014
    Have there been any crossed that used dogs yet?I can just imagine them skinning the dogs heads so they look crossed.

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