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    • CommentAuthorDannykat
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2014
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    @Crookeddally

    All right, I took a look but I wasn't able to see one the officer's hands. There's no ring on his right, that's for sure, but his left (which I hear is where people usually put it) is always obscure. Even when I should have been able to see the ring (after the Crossed spits on him), his fingers were blocked by the cage in the car.
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    @Dannykat

    Just looked again, and it turns out I was wrong. There is a ring. You can see it immediately after the Crossed spits in his face, when he throws his hand up to cover his eyes and shoots the Crossed. It's slightly obscured by the cage, but it's there. I never noticed that before now, oddly enough, even though I spent about twenty minutes checking earlier.

    Well that certainly removes a piece of evidence supporting my personal headcanon, but at least I saw something that I never noticed before.
    • CommentAuthorDannykat
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2014
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    @szhwatch

    I hear that Justin Jordan wrote the Legend of Luther Strode series, which my friend says is good, but I fear I know nothing else about him. As for Mr. Jordan's run on Badlands... I'd honestly recommend waiting to see what everyone else says about it. Crossed is just one of those concepts where it's incredibly tricky to find a balance between gore and plot, and besides Garth and Si, the only other writer that I think succeeded in finding that balance was Christos Gage.
    • CommentAuthorgragh46
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2014
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    @Dannykat

    Well, Gage's quisling didn't cut it for me because I found the main character way too disgusting to enjoy it (although Smokey was an awesome one). But I can appreciate that he tried to do something new with Crossed, and that's something that most don't even try
    • CommentAuthorNo Fear
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2014
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    I thought the Quisling arc was one of the best tbh. But when compared to some of the arcs on offer that may not be saying a lot lol.
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    Smmokey's axe was a bit too much though. Slicing through metal and helicoptors.....
    • CommentAuthorDannykat
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2014
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    @FranktheHedgehog

    Heh, true that. I just reread "Quisling", and I was pretty impressed with Smokey's axe. That thing never goes blunt, no matter how many hundreds of people it cuts through.
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    Hah, yeah, what was Smokey's axe made out of, anyway? Adamantium? And I recall in one scene he rips off one guy's arms out of their sockets, just like that. Is that even physically possible for one man (say, the winners of the "World's Strongest Man" contests) to do?

    Anyway, I haven't played it, but I've been reading about the "The Last of Us" videogame, specifically the back-story and setting. It's probably familiar to many of you, but to recap:

    In 2013 there is a mutant Cordyceps fungus outbreak that transforms its victims into cannibalistic monsters that spread the infection further. The pandemic spreads throughout the world and in the following 20 years destroys much of human civilization, killing at least 60% of the world's population.

    What's left of the United States is spread out over a number of different quarantine zones under martial law around the country. These zones are tightly controlled by the US Army and even the slightest hint of infection is met with immediate summary execution. Only one QZ (Boston) is specifically mentioned as still being under the control of the military, though the existence of others is heavily implied.

    The reason why I'm mentioning this is that if there is any country on Earth in the Crossed-verse where the pre-C-Day government or its remnants exist, it would likely be in this sort of fashion. I agree what others said on my Thin Red Line thread, that there was never any hope for the government to contain the epidemic due to the fact that it had already spread out of control by the time Patient Zero was in custody. As I wrote in an earlier post here, either the reports that the PM's aide had been receiving were wildly optimistic, inaccurate and/or outdated, or the reports were correct, at the time that he had received them, but that the situation had evolved very quickly and in an unfortunate direction (troops running out of ammo, cordons overrun, new outbreaks breaking out left and right and not enough police and army to deal with them, etc.).

    Still, in the remote chance - and by remote, I mean like 1/1000 - that the British government had managed to "contain" the Crossed plague, for lack of a better word, I imagine that Britain would have looked something like this:

    Gordon Brown still alive and holed up in his bunker, but unable to really do anything, so the British military are the ones who are really in charge. The vast majority of the UK's land mass has been ceded to the Crossed as a no-man's-land, with the military concentrating on defending strategic and easily defended locations. Something like ~ 90% of the British population is dead or Crossed, with the survivors huddling in the defended quarantine zones under draconian martial law and strict rationing. Imagine lots of Fort Georges of varying size, basically. Paradoxically, this would be a tad better situation for the authorities than in The Last of Us as unlike in the game they would only have to wait for several years or so for the Crossed population to decrease to such an extent that they could gradually expand from the quarantine zones and retake the country.

    Call me wildly optimistic but that would be the "best-case scenario" in my mind. And I did say that this was a 1/1000 chance for Britain at least. Though it would be interesting if some future Badlands arc dealt with this theme, regardless of which country it was (cue all the Madagascar jokes).
    • CommentAuthorDannykat
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2014
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    @Babu Dhakal

    Having just recently replayed the Last of Us (as well as reading the comics and playing the DLC), I can safely say that the way the government runs safe-zones is not a strategy that would carry over well into the Crossed universe. They're a bit like the fort in WYWH, but with a ton of openings (the infected will usually just stay in one room without motivation to leave) and soldiers constantly go on supply runs outside of the walls.

    The real kicker, though? The safe-zones are falling. Throughout the game, you'll hear horror stories of these places imploding, and (minor spoiler) even see the results for yourself in Pittsburgh where a group of revolutionaries killed everyone in charge, and now survive by murdering any and every traveler for their supplies. I honestly got the impression that humanity would not hold out for much longer in this world, and the ending, which I will in no way spoil here, seems to reinforce the idea that our time is up.
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    @Dannykat

    Yeah, I've read enough about the game to know about the ending so you don't have to spoil it on my account.

    As it is, though, I think that any safe-zones in the Crossed universe would be very different from the ones in Last of Us. I actually think that Fort George would be a good example of this. It was very clear that they were not in the habit of making supply runs, seeing as how they had to rely on Shaky's group to get the medical supplies in the first place. It was also very well fortified with no openings whatsoever. In fact, if they hadn't suffered that horrific stroke of bad luck, I believe it quite likely that they would have still been around by the time of The Fatal Englishman. So any other safe-zones would likely be similar, if only because the more badly protected ones would eventually fall to the Crossed.

    Also, much as folks might grumble in the safe zones, when faced with the fact that the military would be the only thing standing between them and hordes of grinning maniacs wanting nothing more than to feed their children to a wood-chipper and eat, rape and kill them (in that order), any rebellions and insurrections would be few, far between and put down with extreme prejudice. Maybe it's just me, but based on what I've read about them, I consider the Fireflies rebels in Last of Us to be complete assholes. Hard to imagine a similar organization existing in the Crossed-verse. Well, they wouldn't exist for long, anyway.

    But regardless, the scenario that you posited (safe-zones falling) would be fitting for Crossed, as it would combine the theme of government response with the main theme of "No hope".
    • CommentAuthorDannykat
    • CommentTimeAug 14th 2014
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    @Babu Dhakal

    I agree, I don't think rebellions would even be considered with a horde of Crossed waiting outside. I just brought up the Fireflies to showcase that intelligent enemies would be an absolute nightmare to deal with.
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      CommentAuthorkzootron
    • CommentTimeAug 17th 2014 edited
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    Quisling was dope. Very well written and illustrated. I was very pleased with it. Garth said he enjoyed it very much also. I have to admit I'm somewhat biased since I like other work by Christo. Im always on the fence when Avatar brings in new blood for crossed but when it's an author I'm already familiar with it peaks my interest a bit more. I would love to see Kieron Gillen take on crossed. I really want to see Raulo illustrate more though, I love his work.
    • CommentAuthorBadBeast
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2014
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    That "compliance or face of certain death" dynamic in Quisling isn't even a rare human response really. It must be akin to choosing to be Sonder Commando in Birkenwald or Treblinka.

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