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    It's Thursday! It's mid-afternoon in London! It's another wrongheaded morning in Mericky! Everyone in Australia is dead from spiders and snakes and poisonous accents, apparently. And it's time for more Crossed hideosity!

    Episode 84, live and free-to-air.

    Remember: Not safe for work, not safe for minors, not safe for people of a nervous disposition, not safe for Eminent Domain.
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    Well, as watched as they are, they can't really gamble on a short-range escape. They need to get FAR away from there. And doing so without Shaky is the best solution. That's just how things work in World 2.0.
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    nobody likes dear ol' Shaky anymore. so sad.
    • CommentAuthorBigSven
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2014 edited
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    What exactly did Shaky supposedly do to them that was so terrible? He led the sortie that got them supplies. Yes he left notes, but the Nun already knew where they were at that point. He killed that little punk w/ the thermal scope that they were too chicken shit to do anything about. Their dealings w the Americans were why Cava got invaded. And clearly the Nun is keeping them all alive right now for reasons that have to do w/ Shaky. I don't think they'll last two days without Shaky.

    It's bad that he proposed the raid and then sold out its team in his sad attempt to save his child, but they don't have that particular bit of information.

    I do like that the Aussie called Lance "son", though.
    • CommentAuthorBigSven
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2014
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    Even if they do hate Shaky, they should at least tie him to the bow, as insurance in case they meet up w the UN Crossed. Which they will- that ship looks like it can do about ten knots.
    • CommentAuthorIff
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2014
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    Here's a thought, re. the whole, "What did Shaky do" question:

    It's not so much what he did, so much as it's what he says. Words are poison, in World 2.0. Remember "Questions, questions, questions"? The toxic mind-brew that thinking brings? Hell, his name as we know it is synonymous w/ words. Shaky is toxic to everyone around him because of that.

    See also: Teresa's "Don't talk" comment.

    I'm not really sure if the words=poison thing can be extrapolated into the series as a whole, but it does seem to be pretty integral to Shaky's character.
    • CommentAuthorgragh46
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2014
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    Hmm. Seline is actually doing stuff now. I thought she was more or less catatonic after her time with Teresa's gang...

    I'd say the Cavaites are simply in denial. It's not that they hate Shaky or think that he himself has done something wrong (since they have no way of knowing that it was his warning what caused the problem with the driftfleet), it's just that they know that the entire thing has to do with him, and bad shit has happened to everyone around him recently. As far as the Cavaites know, we have: Tab gets taken hostage, Amina is rape-killed in front of her family as Shaky simply walks by all catatonic, Des dies while Shaky survives yet again, Shaky leaves for his chat with the gamekeeper and all the lights around the island disappear.

    They want to survive, and they want to go back to having a relatively safe position. They have lived this long after Teresa's crew appeared thanks to Shaky, as Seline said, yet for all they know Shaky is the one who brought the crew on them by letting his letters all over the place (should Seline know Teresa's real name and someone recall the letter that the big-mouthed bastard brought, the connection is pretty obvious). And they all know Shaky is a selfish cunt who can go to great lengths to get what he wants (Miranda more than most, I'd guess. But there's the entire "using an infected little boy on Rab to get chosen for the sortie" part, as well).

    Iff's point about Shaky talking shit might also apply.

    All of that said, I think their plan is trash. they should have tried to make it to the mainland and leave, they have way too little oil to move any of the boats in the driftfleet for any decent length, assuming they can make it there. And the island is most likely being watched even now, although they were allowed to leave it for a bit (possibly because they were heading to places where the crossed still lurked)
    • CommentAuthorMrBogey
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2014
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    @BigSven "What exactly did Shaky supposedly do to them that was so terrible? He led the sortie that got them supplies. Yes he left notes"

    What Shakey did is be the crux of the whole damn situation. You see, people when they get hammered get pissed at anything connected to the hammer. Shakey knows the nun. Shakey is a duplicitous schemer. He's untrustworthy and connected to her. What do you expect them to do?

    And not only that, they don't know the details. They know the "rapey-stabby" folks are surrounding them, ready to pounce at any moment and that gives them a bit of a pissed off edge.
    • CommentAuthorBenjammin
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2014
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    I hope you all remember that the Crossed had a very specific schedule for the refinery. They'd go there every couple of days to screw around/do whatever before their usual routine, and the Driftfleet was going to take advantage of that to take all of the oil right when they had left. When Shaky snitched, they waited a day, which would have been an obvious tactical error, except for the fact that they were being raided.
    The other two who came with him had no reason to report it, seeing as one died because they did something terrible that they had conspired with Don and the other is quite simple-minded and wouldn't do such a thing. Their perspective? Shaky wanted to sell them out. Only, not because he cares so much about preventing it, because he gave the leaders the idea in the first place. No, he started this conflict and then messed it up for them, just to create more death and destruction for them, as they see it.

    The Cavaites probably believe him to be very bad luck, if anything. Teresa cares only about him, really. If he's being taken away, all of the Crossed will attack the ship, right? If he's left on the island they might stand a chance at escape.
    • CommentAuthorJyve
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2014
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    I don't know, if he's left on the island, the crossed still need their 'fun' to be controlled and letting them have their way with the ship will go some way to let those urges be played out (and get rid of more crossed that Teresa can't control).
    If he's ON the ship, it gets more complicated, but still manageable. But yeah, that amount of fuel they've got will let them start up the engines, and... that's pretty much it.
    http://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/eng/ch8en/conc8en/fuel_consumption_containerships.html
    150 tonnes of fuel a day, those barrels are going to give them a couple of minutes, though maybe that's all they need to reverse it, then they can perhaps get into the current and float away? If they're not too badly damaged, and...
    Yeah, they're all doomed.
    • CommentAuthorAlexGB
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2014
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    Maybe they just want to refine enough oil to get the fire defences operative, after all if all they want to do is use the oil to escape they have no need to refine it, just sieve it and you can run a diesel engine on oil anyway. However we must not let reality interfere with the story telling to much, if we did there would be no crossed anywhere near Cava as they would all be dead within 48 hours due to exposure anyway.
    • CommentAuthorDannykat
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2014
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    @twentythoughts
    Well, if you look at the Gamekeeper's story about his time with Aoileann and the gang, Shaky is really the only thing keeping the people of Cava alive at this point. Without Shaky, Aoileann would have let her group go hog wild on the Cavaites since she wouldn't have to be precise for... whatever she's planning. *Shiver*
    • CommentAuthortr0r
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2014
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    Consider the possibility that the ship might be used as a distraction, while the Cavaites slip out the back door.
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    Maybe they just don't want Shaky to know the details of their plan so he doesn't blab it to somebody. Just think, if he had never told Jasper about Cava, most of the horrors that have happened so far probably could have been avoided. I think that sending the sortie and Jackson bringing the Driftfleet to Cava were the two actions that brought the most negative repercussions to Shaky and the gang.
    • CommentAuthorShan
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2014
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    I think Cava was doomed from the moment Shaky was told about it. He told Aoileann and then even though she got Crossed, she still would have remembered that bit of information. That's how her group were there to able to ambush Jasper and company in the first place I would imagine.

    Shaky's continuing run of luck seems to have been balanced out at the expense of a lot of others. If he'd died in London on the first day, chances are there would have been no convergence of Super Crossed on Cava and hence the Drift Fleet and so on. All the various Crossed characters would probably have ended up somewhere else and probably not organised as a lot of key characters probably wouldn't have met in the first place.

    Not saying that it's his fault in itself (we already have plenty of things he's guilty of to blame him for) but his surviving and getting to Cava set a whole chain of events in moment that seem to have ended badly for at least hundreds of people at last count.
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    It looks to me that Shakey is wrong about them trying to move the Driftfleet ship.

    Most likely that fuel is for the speedboat motor. Seems kind of a waste of time bringing the motor back with them if they can't find a way to use it without the speedboat. Crossed ships don't carry any extra fuel beyond what's in their tank and that motor has already proven it can outrun their ships even when mounted to a large speedboat carrying 6 fully grown people with supplies and the inflatable dinghy on top.

    Can it do it while towing another boat or laden down with fuel barrels? We'll see.

    ---
    As for why they are pissed off at Shakey... you can see the difference in the way he comforts Lance vs. how he tells Chanice that her father is dead after volunteering to escort him. Even Miranda, the one newcomer left, is doing more to be part of the community than he is as he wordlessly leaves for the meeting the next day. You can practically see Don's words after John's death running through their heads.

    http://www.crossedcomic.com/webcomic/volume-1-chapter-12/11/

    But something tells me that there is probably a twist somewhere. A deal with the crossed made while Shakey was gone? I re-read the past few chapters and like they said it doesn't change anything except to keep Shakey off the island for a long time. He didn't volunteer the information and no one has asked what happened. There has to be a reason for it.
    • CommentAuthorDannykat
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2014
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    @Distant Voice
    While I think a deal with Aoileann would definitely be possible, I don't think the rest of the Crossed in her group would play ball. That lot isn't there for Shaky, they're there for everyone.
    • CommentAuthorNo Fear
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2014
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    Wasn't the speedboat (Skip's boat) destroyed by the Crossed when they attacked the island?
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    Yup, so that's out of the question. And they can't outrun them with such a large vessel. And would they even have enough fuel to make it out to sea and an uninhabited island?
    • CommentAuthorDannykat
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2014
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    Mysteries, mysteries, mysteries. I suppose all we can do is wait till the next episode to see what the Cavaites are up to.

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