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    • CommentAuthorDannykat
    • CommentTimeMay 8th 2014
     (11341.21)
    @Dilo
    Budum tish!
    • CommentAuthorMrBogey
    • CommentTimeMay 8th 2014
     (11341.22)
    Okay, I really like the flashback way more than I should have. I think there's something wrong with me. ;)
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      CommentAuthorkzootron
    • CommentTimeMay 8th 2014
     (11341.23)
    I certainly did walk into that one.
    • CommentAuthorDannykat
    • CommentTimeMay 8th 2014 edited
     (11341.24)
    @MrBogey
    Could you at least try to pretend to be civil? The comic itself is creepy enough so that crap like this won't spill into the forums.
    • CommentAuthorHardCory
    • CommentTimeMay 8th 2014
     (11341.25)
    I just want to know what happens at the damn church!!
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    Never thought that in an issue/webcomic of Crossed, I'd linger on a splash panel because it was sexy and pleasing to the eye. Usually I'm looking at a Crossed splash panel to look at all the fucked-up things going on (or to see if a certain character is in the background getting eliminated, they're pretty intricate).

    Also, a woman moaning "no" with an ecstatic look on her face and legs wrapped around her partner... well, I didn't even THINK non-consensual or rape until it was brought up here. I believe Shaky mentioned something about delayed pleasure being her thing, and IMO the fact that the two scenes were intercut in this chapter was no accident.

    Only eight more? I've been reading since chapter one and the horrible incident with the poor dolphin! What the hell am I going to look forward to regularly on Thursdays now?
    • CommentAuthorDannykat
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2014
     (11341.27)
    @Mrs.KissKissBangBang
    Well, Mr. Spurrier is working on another webcomic called Disenchanted. You should check it out, it's pretty schway. However, I should not that the violence, while brutal, is nowhere near as graphic as Wish You Were Here. Enjoy it!
    • CommentAuthorDannykat
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2014
     (11341.28)
    note*
  2.  (11341.29)
    Coming to an end, of course there always more questions than answers.

    1.Why break his legs? If they wanted him off the boats just aim a gun at him.
    2.Oil=Pitch, but why not leave when all the attention was focused on Shakey? They know the Crossed patrol.

    While seeing 'Controled Crossed', like the Lucids is interesting, I would like to see the Crossed go back to classic rage mode since I believe that was what Ennis intended with the original run where people could survive until the Crossed killed themselves due to neglect.
    • CommentAuthorHardCory
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2014
     (11341.30)
    I agree that I too have grown very fond of reading crossed every week. Including the quarterly re-read through, of the entire WYWH series. The utter savagry and brutality of WYWH is so horrificly clever, and in some anamilistic and primortial way, is incredibly satisfying to read. I'm not sure what that says about me...
    Anyway, it will be missed.
    • CommentAuthorShan
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2014
     (11341.31)
    @ HardCory

    "I just want to know what happens at the damn church!!"

    When do we get to the fireworks factory?

    (In fairness, I think we will be getting there soon unlike Itchy and Scratchy)

    P.S Shaky died on the way back to his home planet.
    • CommentAuthorMrBogey
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2014
     (11341.32)
    Sorry Dan. I'll pretend to be civil if only to please you. Anything else ya need?
    • CommentAuthorMrBogey
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2014
     (11341.33)
    Oh and with all the chatter, nobody noticed the crucified infant skeleton?
    • CommentAuthorJoe Shoes
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2014
     (11341.34)
    @marsrover21 "That said, Shaky should have pulled out and listened to the advise of the Dexys Midnight Runners and Come on Aoileann." Now that was a funny line!
  3.  (11341.35)
    Some ramblings while we are waiting for the next chapter.

    So what kind of story are we reading?

    The question asks if we're reading a story like the original Crossed series about accepting the world you live in and not the world you wished you lived in. Those that did accept it survived (at least for a while) and went out with some degree of dignity. Those that did not, got rape/killed. Or in Quisling, we read about how maybe sometimes it is better to not choose to survive if the price is too high.

    My guess is that with Wish You Were Here is, in part, a story about the futility and harm of not confronting your problems and avoiding/ignoring/running away. I bet for many of you I'm just stating the obvious and/or completely on the wrong track but here it goes.

    From the very beginning we see Shaky running for his life. Most of his major decisions (plot points) generally involve him deciding to not act or intervene, which results in someone or Shaky suffering the consequences and his situation getting worse. For example:

    1. Shaky leaves the Gameskeeper to die instead of finishing him off -- Gameskeeper becomes a Checkov's gun/advisor to the Crossed
    2. Shaky abandons Ash -- Ash saves Gameskeeper and becomes a supercrossed
    3. Shaky leaves Tabitha with the Drift Fleet -- she becomes Crossed, dies, and Shaky loses his unborn child
    4. Shaky (probably) leaves Aoleanne -- Aoleanne becomes Boss Crossed and brings the hoard down on Cava
    5. Shaky does nothing to stop the Gameskeeper from abusing Agnes -- people die and group implodes
    6. Shaky does not try to stop the Gameskeeper from shadowing the group after Anges dies -- Gameskeeper rapes Aoleanne and carves an X on her face

    If we look at Shaky and his critical flaw it seems to be his inability to directly confront his problems. Even when he tries to do something, it's usually sneaky, sometimes catastrophically ineffective, and/or makes others dislike him (Rab & going on the sortie, Driftfleet showdown, planting Aoeleanne's bra with the Rector, etc) Conversely, in the rare times when Shaky directly confronts his problem, his situation and that of his group generally improves (saving Aoleanne when she's having a seizure or confronting Jasper who is pointing a gun at him).

    Hell, "Wish You Were Here". One of the most passive things you can say.

    <em>-Edited to lose the p-word -- Si</em>
    • CommentAuthorDannykat
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2014 edited
     (11341.36)
    @JohnnyRocket324
    Confronting problems head on/general heroics is a thing that the Crossed series generally frowns upon; to see it actually work (on a larger scale, instead of just little hope spots) would surprise me greatly.
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    @Danny
    I think it is less heroics than not being a prat and helping people. Backing up Agnes's husband when he tried to shoot GK might very well have ended with just GK dead. I don't know went on during the downtimes with [Ashoke] after his braindamage, but Shakey seemed disinclined to try to keep him quiet and stable.

    <em>-Edited to lose the p-word -- Si</em>
    • CommentAuthorDannykat
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2014
     (11341.38)
    Hold up, hold up. Can everyone stop calling Ashoke "the Paki"? It's an offensive term, and goddammit that kid was one of the most badass Crossed I have ever seen; he deserves respect.
  5.  (11341.39)
    The GK calling him that was a device to make the GK more despicable. I'm pretty sure Si did that deliberately. No need for us to go all Crossed ourselves.
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    Quite right. It's a pejorative term, and the sort of thing I'd expect from a contemptible old racist like the GK. Not here.

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