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      CommentAuthorcurb
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2014 edited
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    So the new series of Doctor Who starts on 23 August.

    On one hand, I'm pretty excited. Peter Capaldi has some major acting chops, and I'm looking forward to seeing his take on the character. And when an episode works, it really works - I enjoyed Day of the Doctor immensely. On the other hand however, I'm nowhere near as excited about this show as I used to be. For me, the last couple of series have been pretty disappointing, mostly due to ongoing story arcs either making little sense, or concluding really sloppily. So, seeing how many episodes Stephen Moffat is co-writing hasn't filled me with hope...

    But, like I said, Capaldi! If anyone can make the show special again, it's him. So, who 's planning on watching?
    • CommentAuthorKradlum
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2014
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    I'm not looking forward to explaining to my 5 yr old that Capaldi is the new Doctor. It was hard enough explaining to him that James Bond was still James Bond at the beginning of Die Another Day after he had been captured and grown a beard, or that Johnny English isn't actually Mr Bean...
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      CommentAuthorcurb
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2014
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    Mt rule is that once someone's in Who, they're that same character in everything else they appear in. Hence there currently being a Slitheen in Eastenders. Not sure quite how that works in your situation, though!
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    "The Day of the Doctor" didn't work for me completely, but I will admit the last 15 minutes or so left me with a lump in my throat. Also, seeing it in a theater also meant I got to see Matt Smith's Doctor express disappointment that the film was being shown in boring old 3-D.

    Capaldi's presence makes me cautiously optimistic. But I wouldn't mind seeing him unleashing a Malcolm-Tucker-like stream of invective against a Dalek to the point that it self-desctructs from humiliation.
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      CommentAuthorLazarus99
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2014
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    I would sell my soul (or someone's at any rate) for a sweary doctor...
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      CommentAuthorTF
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2014
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    . On the other hand however, I'm nowhere near as excited about this show as I used to be. For me, the last couple of series have been pretty disappointing, mostly due to ongoing story arcs either making little sense, or concluding really sloppily. So, seeing how many episodes Stephen Moffat is co-writing hasn't filled me with hope...


    This. Exactly this. Also - bad CGI dinosaur in the trailer.
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      CommentAuthorcurb
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2014
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    Hah! Fortunately, bad CG has never been a been a barrier to my enjoyment of the show.
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      CommentAuthorTF
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2014
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    You know what, me either - it's more the dinosaur juxtaposed with the houses of parliament. It just feels lazy: This + That = COOL, now everyone run around.

    dino-bore

    Granted, it only feels lazy because of past viewing experiences (Dinosaurs+Spaceship=cool, priests+army+space=cool, Hitler+Android that's actually a space ship doppleganger assasin=...cool - what was it you were saying about things concluding really sloppily?)

    I'm hoping Ben Wheatley inspires the series to a less shallow place.
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      CommentAuthorcurb
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2014
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    Yeah, you're on to something there. I swear there's yet another gigantic Dalek saucer fleet in the series trailer, too!

    Ben Whealey's appearance does seem consistent with a darker, if not actually deeper, feel to the show. And most of the episode synopses sound pretty sinister, too. But then maybe I'm just letting Capaldi's track record colour my expectations! There's an interview over on Den of Geek where he talks about being asked to make his performance less sinister - when he's simply doing voice work for a butter advert!
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    The first episode was pretty dark. One of the darkest (if not the darkest) Doctor Who episodes I can remember. Looking forward to seeing more and what Capaldi's Doctor's deal is.
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      CommentAuthorcurb
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2014
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    Yeah it was - and I liked it! I do feel there was a bit more depth to it, too - it felt more pensive than we've seen for a good while. I hope that's something that continues even once the business of regeneration is taken care of. I really liked Capaldi's Doctor, too. It feels like he's already nailed that Doctor-y combination of assuredness and fallibility, without resorting to clowning around. He's a bit of an arsehole, too, which is fun. It's also interesting that he might
    have already killed someone - after all, we weren't shown whether that robot chose to jump, or was pushed...


    Also, nice to see Vastra and Jenny get some more screen time, and for it to be quite calmly, explicitly demonstrated that they're in a loving and sexual relationship. That still feels like a fairly bold thing to include in a the relaunch episode of a prime time flagship show, and more power to them for it.

    So, based on the above, I'm feeling optimistic about the rest of the series. One thing that does have me worried, however, is the
    reveal of the ongoing arc so early in the series. I could do without any more Moffat web spinning for a while. But it did make me wonder - is that mysterious woman some version of Clara that separated from 'our' Clara when she entered The Doctor's timeline? Some version of River, become corrupt in the 'heaven' of The Library? Some other hastily drawn and ultimately unsatisfying character whose true identity and purpose will disappoint me at the end of the series? Stay tuned to find out!
    • CommentAuthorMrMonk
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2014
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    On Saturday's episode:
    My impression (and it can only be an impression at this time) was that "Missy" was some part of the Tardis' consciousness gone wrong. Hence, the references to her "boyfriend's" regenerations. There have been many references over the series to the Tardis taking care of or protecting the Doctor, and it was made explicit in "The Doctor's Wife" that the Tardis had a feminine personality. I think we will see "boyfriend" as a theme this season.
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    @MrMonk -
    I was thinking she was another version of River, but I like the possibility of her being a personified version of the Tardis. The garden even looked sort of like a tardis.
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    @curb, @MrMonk, @imaginarypeople

    Here's my take on that character:

    Missy = The Mistress, a female version of The Master, tying in with the female hand (The Master's girlfriend/wife?) taking the Master's ring from his pyre back in that Tenant episode. Somehow she has been imbued with some part of the Master's consciousness (maybe via the Master's ring?).
    • CommentAuthorStefanJ
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2014
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    I like that That Character apparently did something very nice for . . . that guy.
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      CommentAuthorcurb
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2014 edited
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    @Lazarus corporation

    That would be really cool!
    The name, the sinister vibe, and her being in "heaven" would all fit with that theory. The ring, however, was picked up by Lucy Saxon and used to revive The Master in "The End of Time".

    She's previously been announced by the BBC as playing a character called The Gatekeeper Of Th Nethersphere, but that's more of a title than an actual identity. Maybe The Nethersphere is where The Master ended up after his disappearance?


    @StefanJ - it did seem nice, but I suspect an ulterior motive...
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      CommentAuthorFoamhead
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2014 edited
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    Regardless of who she is and what part she plays, Michelle Gomez will be worth watching for every second of screen-time she gets. Just the sight of her made me want to see Green Wing all over again.

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      CommentAuthorTF
    • CommentTimeAug 30th 2014
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    With the first episode I liked the good bits and I didn't like the bad bits, I felt Clara was given a bum deal again and most of the conflict was from Capaldi trying to drag the show to a better place.

    But - forget that -

    I LOVED THIS WEEKS EPISODE!!!!

    It was proper Dr.Who - great script, acting, direction. I could nit pick a couple of things but I won't 'cause it wouldn't be fair.
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      CommentAuthorLazarus99
    • CommentTimeAug 30th 2014 edited
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    @curb

    "The ring, however, was picked up by Lucy Saxon..."
    No it wasn't, it was the warden of the prison where she was being kept.

    Personally, I reckon she's just a mad, albeit powerful, stalker woman, more like a female Moriarty (the Moffatt version from Sherlock - mad and silly, but still completely menacing). Although, [SPOILER SPOILER WARNING], according to Doctor Who Magazine, she is called The Gatekeeper of the Nethersphere, whatever the hell THAT means...
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      CommentAuthorcurb
    • CommentTimeSep 1st 2014
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    @The Mighty Foamhead

    For reasons too inane to go into, I really took against Green Wing when it first aired. Clearly I need to rectify that mistake!

    @Lazarus99 I stand corrected!

    Another strong episode this week - loving how callous this Doctor can be, and how Clara is having to act as his moral compass. Plus that
    ending was pretty damn Grimdark. Think they could have handled the nano sizing better, though - seemed to be some inconsistency in how small the party were shown to be, and the scale upon which they were interacting with the Dalek. Still, that's a minor quibble!