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    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2008 edited
     (1304.21)
    Here's the thing with highly reactive substances - they tend to react with the first thing they come into contact and form highly stable substances.

    I'll start worrying about mercury in dental amalgam about the same time I start worrying about the sodium and chloride in salt or the fact that aluminium shavings are the basis of thermite.

    As for environmental exposure, the principal source of Mercury in the environment is coal-fired power plants. In the US, they pump tonnes of the stuff into the atmosphere every year - and that's the nasty reactive elemental form not the relatively inert form found in amalgam or vaccines.
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2008
     (1304.22)
    "If the problem is that there are too many autistic kids in a given study for it to make sense, which is the central problem I'm getting from the stats in those articles,..."

    No, the problem is that Thimerosal was phased out in Denmark in 1992 and the autism rate continued to increase.

    Thimerosal was was phased out in the US in 2002 and the autism rate continued to increase.

    Here's the thing with autism: virtually any kid who isn't absolutely perfect can be diagnosed as having an "Autism Spectrum Disorder" which means the parents stop bugging th Doctor to tell them what's wrong with the kid and the Doctor gets to put the kid on a profitable lifelong regime of psychoactive medication.

    Virtually all the increase in reported autism involve the mildest forms of the disease. Unquestionably, some of that is because of underdiagnosis in the past but it definitely looks to me like we now have all the necessary precodnitions for overdiagnosis.
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      CommentAuthortim12s
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2008
     (1304.23)
    Heroin - y'know, for kids.
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      CommentAuthorV
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2008 edited
     (1304.24)
    Ahem.
    (raises hand)

    Actually, I've had Botox injections.
    Admittedly, not for cosmetic reasons.... and mine were done by a neurologist, so I can't say if the injection sites were exactly the same as those involved in the cosmetic procedure.

    I have chronic frequent migraines, and for some people like me the botox injections can make a big difference.
    It's one of those serendipitous discoveries where migraineurs who were treating something else (or in this case pursuing a cosmetic result) happened to have a decrease in acute migraine episodes at the same time.

    Unfortunately, it didn't work for me, so I've only ever had the one treatment which wore off long ago.
    I have to admit though, if it had worked I'd be lining up at my neurologist's office for regular injections.

    (Aside: I was really nervous at the time that my face would be a lot less expressive but actually it wasn't that bad for me.)

    So I am one of those people who has quite willingly and knowingly had botulism toxin injected right into their face.
    And if it had produced the results I'd hoped for I would definitely have done it again.
    Some of us are just that desperate.

    (And yes I know this doesn't qualify as a superficially motivated use of botox, but on the other hand migraine is a nonfatal neurological disorder and botox isn't a cure it is merely a potential treatment that has to be kept up with regularly.)
  1.  (1304.25)
    I've had Botox injections for the exact same reason as Vanessa, and it didn't work for me either.
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      CommentAuthorV
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2008
     (1304.26)
    @CSMelartin - Damn.