Whitechapel - New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31057#Comment_31057 2008-03-18T11:22:45-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 Peter Berg is attached to direct a bigscreen adaptation of Frank Herbert's classic sci-fi novel "Dune" for Paramount Pictures. Peter Berg is attached to direct a bigscreen adaptation of Frank Herbert's classic sci-fi novel "Dune" for Paramount Pictures.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31066#Comment_31066 2008-03-18T11:39:10-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Necros http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1325 Well I don't want to be negative at this point, so I will keep my fingers crossed that it is a good adaptation of the material. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31069#Comment_31069 2008-03-18T11:46:45-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 harchangel http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=134 I saw this earlier today. It seems like an odd choice of director, but i will sit tight on judgement and just pull out my copy of Dune since it's been ages since i've read it. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31073#Comment_31073 2008-03-18T11:54:56-07:00 2008-03-18T16:05:33-07:00 Thom B. http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2248 I'm just sad that Jodorowsky isn't directing.... Still, it may well be good. LOtR gave writers and directors the freedom to think bigger with these things so who knows. I'm a little worried that ... Still, it may well be good. LOtR gave writers and directors the freedom to think bigger with these things so who knows. I'm a little worried that they'll take the "dwindling natural resources" thing too far and date the film in the same way that Lucas was all "Ooooh Human Genome, Ooooh Mitocondrial DNA, Oooooh Midicloriens Oooooh Oooh Ooooh....ooops, I made a shit movie".]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31078#Comment_31078 2008-03-18T12:01:30-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 videocrime http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=121 There's no indicators that show this will be good or bad, jury's still out. Can't really do worse than Lynch's version (the chopped-up Theatrical version, that is) New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31079#Comment_31079 2008-03-18T12:12:24-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 James Sharpe http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=123 Do you think it will top the Lynch version visually? I still think Lynch's Dune (although I doubt he'd call it that) is a nice looking piece of work/production design. I've never read the books ...
I've never read the books (yet) but how did Lynch's Dune size up in terms of faithfullness?

Won't this new version just be a huge lump of CGI thrown at the screen?]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31082#Comment_31082 2008-03-18T12:27:18-07:00 2008-03-18T12:27:51-07:00 Alan Tyson http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1299 James - the Lynch movie really didn't capture much other than the epic scale of the books - it changed the plot fairly dramatically. It's by no means a bad film, but if you're looking for a visual ...
I'm probably gonna get called a mainstream putz for this, but I actually really liked the Sci-Fi Channel miniseries, both of them. While they couldn't get all the cool content, they did do a good job of creating what I thought was the right mood and look for the books. They didn't make it too weird, which was what turned me off to the Lynch version, especially because the books themselves are not all that weird. Multilayered, well-structured, intentionally misleading at times, and occasionally downright synapse-shattering, but not really all that weird.

On the other hand, if you're gonna have fuckin' ornithopters in your movie, have fucking ornithopters, not the mutant bastard children of a V-22 and a grasshopper.

I'll redeem my art student self by saying that I hope the art department takes a look at the (rightly) stillborn Alejandro Jodorowsky production. The film itself probably would have been a Jodorowskian wankfest, but the concept art I've seen for it is very creepy, very cool, and very nice to look at - a fair amount of it was drawn by Moebius and other talented European comic artists. If they can incorporate (not copy, per se) some of that essence, I think if nothing else we'd have a very nice moving painting with sound attached to it. Maybe, if they can get the right adaptive writer for the script (NOT Kevin J. Anderson, I mean - nice guy, but didn't really write the prequels and sequels all that well, in my opinion), then we might also have a very nice movie.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31086#Comment_31086 2008-03-18T12:36:13-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 moali http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1430 ..what was wrong with Lynch's version? anyway I still think they should've made a Hellblazer movie with Sting..or someone not-Keanu...

anyway I still think they should've made a Hellblazer movie with Sting..or someone not-Keanu...]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31088#Comment_31088 2008-03-18T12:39:16-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Alan Tyson http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1299 Nothing was WRONG with it, exactly. It was a fine film. It just wasn't DUNE. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31094#Comment_31094 2008-03-18T13:07:37-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 liquidcow http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2027 Dune is one of the only Lynch films I haven't seen yet. I have heard that it is almost incomprehensible unless you have read the book, although I don't think that necessarily means it's ...
I only find this surprising because they've only just done a TV adaptation recently. If it is done well it could make a great film, although I don't know how they would squeeze the whole thing into one film. Perhaps it will be a two-parter or a trilogy, as is the popular thing at the moment.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31108#Comment_31108 2008-03-18T13:50:31-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Jay Kay http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=814 Personally, I LOVE Lynch's Dune. Then again, I can't find all of the mini-series they did for it and never finished the book, so I probably shouldn't talk. I will say that I wished the version I ...
I shall keep a close eye on this, I think.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31110#Comment_31110 2008-03-18T13:54:38-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Jonathan Hickman http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2121 Loved Lynch's version - it got the spirit of Herbert right. The filmmakers consider its theme of finite ecological resources particularly timely. If they push this too hard, and it somehow ...
The filmmakers consider its theme of finite ecological resources particularly timely.

If they push this too hard, and it somehow becomes the major theme through rewrites, this movie is going to be epic fail and will be the least Dune-y Dune of them all.

/]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31118#Comment_31118 2008-03-18T14:09:12-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 orwellseyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2119 Loved Lynch's version - it got the spirit of Herbert right. Absolutely. Herbert used to write whole sections of the books as poetry then construct narrative and description around them. When ... Loved Lynch's version - it got the spirit of Herbert right.

Absolutely.

Herbert used to write whole sections of the books as poetry then construct narrative and description around them. When people complain that Lynch's version is too weird in spots, it's usually where it was being very close to Herbert's book.

The enviornmental message could totally derail if it becomes "THIS...DESERT...THIS...IS...YOUR...FATE...AMERICA!" screed. The story speaks to that very effectively ...through the story.

I'm pretty curious to see this adaptation, if for no better reason than to see the design work that will go into it. Because the Dune books are pretty spare on descriptions it leaves a big space for artists and designers to really play around. Guild Navigators, Sandworms, Fremen Still-suits, and the Baron. That diseased fat man floating about. Good times.

Yes, I'm a complete dork for those books.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31162#Comment_31162 2008-03-18T15:30:22-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 m1k3y http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1090 Sting so made the original. That mini-series was for shit. I fear it's a down-wide spiral. How can they compete with this?

Sting so made the original. That mini-series was for shit. I fear it's a down-wide spiral. How can they compete with this?

glorious Sting]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31165#Comment_31165 2008-03-18T15:37:47-07:00 2008-03-18T16:05:11-07:00 Thom B. http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2248 Jodorowskian wankfest!?! Rightly silborn! GHAH! I can't believe my ears! Well, alright, it would have been a wankfest but that's not to say it should have never been. I mean, come on, Salvador Dali ... Well, alright, it would have been a wankfest but that's not to say it should have never been.
I mean, come on, Salvador Dali doing a scatological portrayal of the Padasha Emperor seated atop a golden dolphin toilet throne!!!
Who wouldn't want to see that!

-edited for unnecessary opinion on Dali's art]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31166#Comment_31166 2008-03-18T15:46:28-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Walker James http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=526 This thread is already hurting my head. My general prognosis is to leave it alone. David Lynch made a 'DUNE". Sci-fi channel made one that was more faithful to the book in terms of content. It's ...
@m1k3y: The zombie agrees, Sting and all the costumes took the cake. Even though the studio didn't go with Geiger's designs.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31167#Comment_31167 2008-03-18T15:48:29-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Scribe http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=904 Third one's a charm? New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31171#Comment_31171 2008-03-18T15:53:14-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 orwellseyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2119 "I demand...A SHIRT!"
null]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31175#Comment_31175 2008-03-18T15:56:14-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Walker James http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=526 "Third one's a charm?" I hope so. If only Frank Herbert knew how much filmmakers love the spice. I demand a winged thong. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31187#Comment_31187 2008-03-18T16:16:31-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Andre Navarro http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1561 Have never managed to get through more than forty minutes of Lynch's film, not because I wasn't liking it, but because something always came up and forced me to stop. Will do it this time. Haven't ... always came up and forced me to stop. Will do it this time.

Haven't watched any movies by Peter Berg yet, so I won't comment.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31188#Comment_31188 2008-03-18T16:18:21-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 hmobius http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=785 The main problem with Dune is that it's huge. Ecological issues may be timely but if you consider the Fremen as a bunch of religious wackos (which they are) blowing stuff up (which they do) while ... Ecological issues may be timely but if you consider the Fremen as a bunch of religious wackos (which they are) blowing stuff up (which they do) while high on drugs (which they are - hence blue eyes) there are some other "timely" issues which could raise parallels as well.

Lynch's Dune essentially eviscerated the book of its middle 400 pages and then got shafted by the studio because it was even more impenetrable than it ended up being (I really like it btw). Then the mini-series came along and did a good job of putting some of it back in thanks to the extra four hours to play with. You still can't replace Jurgen Prochnow with William Hurt though.

Saw that John Harrison is exec producing this new version. He produced the mini-series. Which basically means he knew how he wanted sandworms to llok in the mini-series but didn't have the budget.

Still though - bon chance. I'll being watching it.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31192#Comment_31192 2008-03-18T16:22:46-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Jay Kay http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=814 Ecological issues may be timely but if you consider the Fremen as a bunch of religious wackos (which they are) blowing stuff up (which they do) while high on drugs (which they are - hence blue eyes) ... Ecological issues may be timely but if you consider the Fremen as a bunch of religious wackos (which they are) blowing stuff up (which they do) while high on drugs (which they are - hence blue eyes) there are some other "timely" issues which could raise parallels as well.

Yeah, I seem to remember one of the reverend mother's with the Fremen calling their rise a "Jihad."

VERY timely, and kinda creepy.

:O]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31205#Comment_31205 2008-03-18T16:55:49-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 Did anyone see the CHILDREN OF DUNE miniseries? Not the DUNE miniseries, specifically the CHILDREN miniseries. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31221#Comment_31221 2008-03-18T17:41:02-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 orwellseyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2119 I saw it. Are you referring to THE GREATEST PERFORMANCE EVER? (goes on on on, but the oscar winning performance is right at the top) There's also this wonderfulness.
Are you referring to THE GREATEST PERFORMANCE EVER?



(goes on on on, but the oscar winning performance is right at the top)



There's also this wonderfulness.
]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31226#Comment_31226 2008-03-18T17:55:28-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Necros http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1325 Herbert blends together many religious ideas, including that of Jihad into one sort of uber religion. It is really interesting, and may be one of my favorite books of all time. The thing is it has ...
Teh question is can someone get the spirit of the Lynch movie and infuse it into a movie that really reflects the characters and plot of the book. Who knows it is a gigantic project, and I hope it succeeds, if for no other reason than I would like ot see something truly great come from Dune.

Maybe I should give the miniseries a second chance and see what is out there in it's entirety before I jusdge the possibilities good or bad, and that includes the Children of Dune as well.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31246#Comment_31246 2008-03-18T19:09:34-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 nleavitt http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=503 I thought Children of Dune was a good effort, hampered by production limits. I'm really glad they stopped there though, I don't see God Emperor of Dune translating well to the small or large ...
Why always Dune? Why doesn't somebody try making The Jesus Incident for once?]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31251#Comment_31251 2008-03-18T19:40:57-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 will_butler http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=892 @Thom B. - Wankfest or no, after having read The Metabarons and seen The Holy Mountain and El Topo, I would murder a man in front of his own mother to see Jodorowsky's take on Dune. With that said, ...
Will]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31260#Comment_31260 2008-03-18T21:18:41-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Jonathan Hickman http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2121 Did anyone see the CHILDREN OF DUNE miniseries? Not the DUNE miniseries, specifically the CHILDREN miniseries. I have not. I concede, I bailed after the first TV series - Did they get it right? Did anyone see the CHILDREN OF DUNE miniseries? Not the DUNE miniseries, specifically the CHILDREN miniseries.

I have not. I concede, I bailed after the first TV series - Did they get it right?]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31267#Comment_31267 2008-03-18T21:30:17-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 As orwellseyes notes, it has THE GREATEST PERFORMANCE EVER IN THE WORLD (to feature the word "wooooorrrrmms"). Berkoff and Susan Sarandon bite off great big chunks of scenery whenever they ... New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31274#Comment_31274 2008-03-18T22:06:36-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 StefanJ http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=961 I saw and liked the SciFi channel DUNE adaptations. Lynch's version was a bit too perverse for my taste. (Nothing wrong with perverse, but it didn't seem a good fit for that particular story.) ...
"Why always Dune?"

Yeah, same thought here. Lots of good classics out there that deserve a shot.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31277#Comment_31277 2008-03-18T22:15:11-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 orwellseyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2119 Warren, I'm curious which performance you thought should have been cut? I really liked the mini-series. James McAvoy (of Atonement and Last King of Scotland) does some fun things with the Leto II ...
I really liked the mini-series. James McAvoy (of Atonement and Last King of Scotland) does some fun things with the Leto II character, probably one of the weirdest characters in the series. In the books, he becomes a living god emperor, crushing humanity to save it. In the mini they show him almost giddy at the transformation of his body. It got to some of the fun stuff nicely. Dune is Opera, it's meant to be big and loud and bold.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31292#Comment_31292 2008-03-18T22:48:28-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 howyadoin http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1675 Do you think it will top the Lynch version visually? It wouldn't be hard, considering how laughably bad the visuals were in that movie. All these years later, I'm still trying to forget the Baron ... Do you think it will top the Lynch version visually?
It wouldn't be hard, considering how laughably bad the visuals were in that movie. All these years later, I'm still trying to forget the Baron Harkonnen flying around like a blimp with a helium leak.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31325#Comment_31325 2008-03-19T01:49:14-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Walker James http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=526 @howyadoin: "It wouldn't be hard, considering how laughably bad the visuals were in that movie." Wha? For a pre-cg movie the visuals were pretty good! I like the 80's fantasy aesthetic a ... New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31332#Comment_31332 2008-03-19T02:50:43-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 PyD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2717 Hopefully the politics in this new Dune will be a tiny bit more subtle than the GREAT BIG SLEDGEHAMMER BLOWS of Berg'sThe Kingdom GREAT BIG SLEDGEHAMMER BLOWS of Berg'sThe Kingdom]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31349#Comment_31349 2008-03-19T04:37:20-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Elohim http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1014 I hoped they'd wait another ten years to remake Dune so that I COULD DO IT. For the last five years it's been my answer whenever anyone asks me "what book/film would you like to ...
Goddamn it, I'll just feel awkward now.

Berg seems an odd choice. I saw the trailers for Kingdom and refused to go and see it. A bunch of Americans, searching for terrorist 'mastermind' Abu Hamza? WE ALREADY GOT HIM. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Ahem. Plus, there's no way he's a mastermind since he blew off both his own hands and one of his eyes while making bombs at home.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31362#Comment_31362 2008-03-19T06:36:41-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 Warren, I'm curious which performance you thought should have been cut? The old geezer playing Gurney Halleck was either drunk off his arse or just blatantly taking the piss. Warren, I'm curious which performance you thought should have been cut?

The old geezer playing Gurney Halleck was either drunk off his arse or just blatantly taking the piss.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31382#Comment_31382 2008-03-19T08:27:37-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Z http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=184 P.H. Moriarty. He was also Harry the Hatchet in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Over-the-top seems to be his 'thing'. - Z Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.

Over-the-top seems to be his 'thing'.

- Z]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31391#Comment_31391 2008-03-19T09:05:07-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 I wouldn't have minded if he were over the top. I did mind that he seemed to be reading all his lines off a cue card, very slowly. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31436#Comment_31436 2008-03-19T11:02:17-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 orwellseyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2119 "The Kingdom" is a fairly weird movie. On the one hand it attempts to show the difference between the ruling class in Saudia Arabia and the extremists, but it does so with the subtlety of a ...
But the opening credit sequence is pretty damn inspired.

]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31461#Comment_31461 2008-03-19T12:17:15-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Cyman http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1925 I liked The Kingdom. Until the last 15-20 minutes, it's brilliant. As such, I have faith that this guy won't completely fuck up Dune, even though it really doesn't need to be remade. But I won't ... New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31481#Comment_31481 2008-03-19T13:32:03-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 synthsapien http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2049 Those are damn good credits - very well put together. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31489#Comment_31489 2008-03-19T14:04:52-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Dracko http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2122 If Peter Berg is doing this, then all hope is lost. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31548#Comment_31548 2008-03-19T17:17:25-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 PyD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2717 I liked The Kingdom. Until the last 15-20 minutes, it's brilliant. Really, the last act action scenes were really well paced and well edited while all the preceeding politicing was pretty much ... I liked The Kingdom. Until the last 15-20 minutes, it's brilliant.
Really, the last act action scenes were really well paced and well edited while all the preceeding politicing was pretty much needlessly oversimplified nonsense and pretty much moot after the impact of the title sequence.


This really could go either way - directors change when doing sci-fi - just ask Danny Boyle.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31578#Comment_31578 2008-03-19T18:43:58-07:00 2008-03-19T18:44:55-07:00 Dracko http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2122 The Kingdom was laughably cynical revisionism overall. Same old nonsense about Americans showing us lesser "fer'neirs" how it's done. The only reason I went to see it is because ... The Kingdom was laughably cynical revisionism overall.

Same old nonsense about Americans showing us lesser "fer'neirs" how it's done.

The only reason I went to see it is because Michael Mann produced it, but sadly, it was never meant to be genuinely cerebral for a minute. The final note is practically comedy in just how bad it is.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31649#Comment_31649 2008-03-20T00:22:16-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Alan Tyson http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1299 Indeed. "Send men, to summon, WOOOOOORRRRRRRRRMZ..." is the best thing SciFi Channel has ever done. I think the reason I liked the miniseries so much is that it gave the book more ...
I think the reason I liked the miniseries so much is that it gave the book more breathing room. I'm convinced that novels should be made into miniseries, and short stories should be made into movies, and Dune is a very good example of that. You need to get the intrigue, the exposition, and the character development in. I think the thing that bothered me the most about the Lynch version was that montage about 2/3 through the movie showing how Paul really becomes Muad'Dib. The miniseries doesn't exactly show more, it just shows the right scenes in the same amount of time. And it doesn't show it through an artful, but kinda distracting waterdrop filter.

Since we're on the subject of Dune adaptations: I might be alone in this, but I've tinkered with the idea of making a comic adaptation of Dune, purely for my own amusement. Does anyone think the first book would translate well into a graphic novel or comic miniseries? Better or worse than a film adaptation?]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31683#Comment_31683 2008-03-20T06:42:29-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Walker James http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=526 @Artemis_of_OZ: Ok. "Dune" would translate well into anything. I would even DRAW a dune OGN because I love it too much. But look, another "Dune" film doesn't need to be made ...
Ok. "Dune" would translate well into anything. I would even DRAW a dune OGN because I love it too much. But look, another "Dune" film doesn't need to be made for another ten 2 twenty years. Even 30 yrs.

I luv "Dune". It has the potential to be the sauce 4 a film adaptation. But really, David Lynch did the film. It had Sean Young before she went crazy. Think about how hot she was.

The sad part is that I really luv "Dune" for the concept of SPICE. Gimmie SPICE.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31705#Comment_31705 2008-03-20T07:57:17-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Steve http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2593 Dune really does need room to breathe to get all of the intrigue in. I always thought the best route for it would be an anime series. Each book could be done as a 24 episode series. With that much ... New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31711#Comment_31711 2008-03-20T08:56:42-07:00 2008-03-20T09:00:03-07:00 Jonathan Hickman http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2121 Since we're on the subject of Dune adaptations: I might be alone in this, but I've tinkered with the idea of making a comic adaptation of Dune, purely for my own amusement. Does anyone think the ... Since we're on the subject of Dune adaptations: I might be alone in this, but I've tinkered with the idea of making a comic adaptation of Dune, purely for my own amusement. Does anyone think the first book would translate well into a graphic novel or comic miniseries? Better or worse than a film adaptation?

Ever seen the movie adaptation that Bill Sienkiewicz did?
]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31714#Comment_31714 2008-03-20T09:18:24-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 Ever seen the movie adaptation that Bill Sienkiewicz did? Written by Ralph Macchio. It's a pretty thing. Ever seen the movie adaptation that Bill Sienkiewicz did?

Written by Ralph Macchio. It's a pretty thing.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31717#Comment_31717 2008-03-20T09:41:40-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Spiraltwist http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=426 Ever seen the movie adaptation that Bill Sienkiewicz did? No. And I need to find a copy of it, right now. Ever seen the movie adaptation that Bill Sienkiewicz did?

No. And I need to find a copy of it, right now.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31723#Comment_31723 2008-03-20T10:03:48-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Walker James http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=526 "Ever seen the movie adaptation that Bill Sienkiewicz did?" No. Oh me God. Must have!
No. Oh me God. Must have!]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31730#Comment_31730 2008-03-20T10:46:32-07:00 2008-03-20T10:47:40-07:00 conner http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=945 As orwellseyes notes, it has THE GREATEST PERFORMANCE EVER IN THE WORLD (to feature the word "wooooorrrrmms"). Berkoff and Susan Sarandon bite off great big chunks of scenery whenever they ... As orwellseyes notes, it has THE GREATEST PERFORMANCE EVER IN THE WORLD (to feature the word "wooooorrrrmms"). Berkoff and Susan Sarandon bite off great big chunks of scenery whenever they appear. But, you know, it's actually not terrible. It has changes, and compressions, and at least one performance that should never ever have been printed, but it's the closest thing to Frank Herbert's Dune that's ever been on the screen. The CG scenes that open the "chapters" of the mini, accompanied by an excellent theme (that's now ripped off for movie trailers all the time), are really very good, with ornithopters swooping around Arrakeen and that...There's certainly a limitation to the production, but I have to agree that it's as close to Frank Herbert's Dune as has (yet) been put to film.

There are a few different leitmotifs from this soundtrack that absolutely lodge themselves in your brain. Every time I watch the one montage of births and deaths ('settling the score', as it were), I have the vocal arrangement jammed in my head for weeks.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31731#Comment_31731 2008-03-20T10:48:51-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 KaiYamazaki http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2780 I love the Children of Dune series quite a lot. Probably because I came backasswards into things and watched that first, then read the books, then watched the movie and the Dune TV series. Of course ...
Which may or may not have something to do with James McAvoy's shirtlessness being greater than Sting's, but that's entirely subject to your personal tastes.

I agree about Gurney Halleck though, he took about five times longer to say his lines than he should have done. Hopefully they don't repeat that concept in the new movie.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31736#Comment_31736 2008-03-20T11:11:09-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 SJD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1298 I liked Lynch's version many, many years ago when I caught it on TV. (the unauthorized extended version.) I read the book a few years ago and had trouble getting into it. It felt like pulling ...
I read the book a few years ago and had trouble getting into it. It felt like pulling teeth for some reason. Maybe it was because I was reading it while training at AIT in the Army. Were the latter books better? Should I try it again now that I'm not being beaten down physically and mentally?

I'm debating whether I should give the books another try, or if the whole franchise is just something I don't get.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31794#Comment_31794 2008-03-20T14:25:58-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Necros http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1325 I recommend reading the first 3 books. After that they kind of run off the rails. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31812#Comment_31812 2008-03-20T14:42:02-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Alan Tyson http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1299 @Jonathan Hickman Thank you, SIR. I will do my best to track a copy of that down. I was thinking of doing one using an entirely new aesthetic sense for the story, but I definitely want to read ...
Thank you, SIR. I will do my best to track a copy of that down. I was thinking of doing one using an entirely new aesthetic sense for the story, but I definitely want to read that just to see how well it translates.

@SJD

I had to re-read it twice before I really, really got it, so it's not surprising. After I got the first book, though, I was off to the races with Messiah and Children. I think its just a matter of getting to know what Herbert's really trying to do - once you get that, the story isn't that tough. Having never been in the military I can't say whether going through infantry training would make reading harder, but I imagine it would. If you've got more leisure time, I would recommend giving it another whack.

Though I must agree with Necros - the later books are still very good, but God Emperor and everything after makes a very swift turn to starboard and becomes something very different. Give them a try if you liked the first three, but read as if you were reading a totally different series by the same author.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31865#Comment_31865 2008-03-20T17:53:13-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 mybrainhurts http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1584 Peter Berg did Welcome to the Jungle with modern day renaissance man Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson and the likable oaf's likable oaf, Seann William Scott. I enjoy that film in a ... Welcome to the Jungle with modern day renaissance man Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson and the likable oaf's likable oaf, Seann William Scott. I enjoy that film in a let's-get-lit-and-watch-The-Rock-spear-tackle-a-concrete-pillar kind of way but I'm not sure how well that'll translate to a desert-bound sci-fi epic.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31907#Comment_31907 2008-03-20T22:16:27-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 zacharius http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1077 I love Dune in a totally unhealthy way. But I honestly see only two ways you could do this: either you make a four hour+ film and throw everything up on the screen at a pace and level of complexity ... Dune in a totally unhealthy way. But I honestly see only two ways you could do this: either you make a four hour+ film and throw everything up on the screen at a pace and level of complexity that would make primer look like pirates of the carribean or you do a 12 hour miniseries on hbo or showtime and just let it breathe and spend lots of time on the imagery and the ideas and get all the layers in there.

It just does my head in when they take a novel that it explicitly about the dangers of crushing all the complexities of humanity into a singular heroic narrative, and crush it down into movies about a single heroic narrative. do you suppose this time they'll actually touch on how paul spends half the book trying to prevent exactly what happens at the end?]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31927#Comment_31927 2008-03-21T00:23:41-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Brent Wilcox http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1653 I love Lynch's Dune, I even love Alan Smithee's extended TV edit. Except for that Toto soundtrack... It's a deeply flawed film, and the ending is so completely horribly wrong... but I still love ... Dune, I even love Alan Smithee's extended TV edit. Except for that Toto soundtrack...
It's a deeply flawed film, and the ending is so completely horribly wrong... but I still love it. It sticks with me. Voices whisper in my head, "The Spice... The Worms..."
The image of Alia raising her krisknife against the background of battle after killing the Baron - amazing. I can't look at Stilgar without seeing Big Ed from Twin Peaks, though.

I thought they did a good job with the SciFi Channel version, at least they captured more of the story, the design and effects were good, the casting adequate (though Stilgar was still wrong), and they frankly didn't embarass themselves. And I liked Children of Dune, especially how they redeemed the disappointing Dune Messiah by wrapping it into Children of Dune.

(Don't know if anyone needs to make a new version, though. Just like no one needed to make a new version of Solaris.)]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=31938#Comment_31938 2008-03-21T01:32:34-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Alan Tyson http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1299 I rather liked the Toto music by itself, but yes, it is mis-used throughout the film. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32040#Comment_32040 2008-03-21T11:35:30-07:00 2008-03-21T11:51:02-07:00 Brent Wilcox http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1653 Toto (...shudder...). They did add to the cheesy 50's Historical Epic quality in some parts of the film - but that whole aspect may have been unintentional. Liked Brian Eno's "Prophecy ... Liked Brian Eno's "Prophecy Theme", though.


While I'm here... Anyone ever notice that the final hand-to-hand combat scene in Lynch's Dune is structured almost exactly like the final hand-to-hand combat scene in Flash Gordon (another De Laurentis production)? Been a long time since I saw Flash Gordon, and I'm in no hurry to change that fact, but I thought the similarity was more than coincidental.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32059#Comment_32059 2008-03-21T12:31:38-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 MegaGoosey http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2537 Peter Berg? Allow me to house my doubts on the quality of this upcoming picture. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32092#Comment_32092 2008-03-21T14:08:21-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 twitch_ramirez http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2478 my fingers are crossed and my mind is open. please god, don't let me be a fool. it will be good; correct(?) New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32100#Comment_32100 2008-03-21T14:33:06-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 St.Wanger http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2792 I've never before heard of the "children of dune" series. Guess it never aired hee in germany ... saw the tv series adaption of the first book though. Unfortunately. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32188#Comment_32188 2008-03-21T18:46:10-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 howyadoin http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1675 Ever seen the movie adaptation that Bill Sienkiewicz did? Written by Ralph Macchio. It's a pretty thing. No. And I need to find a copy of it, right now.It definitely looks great, and it was done at ... Ever seen the movie adaptation that Bill Sienkiewicz did?
Written by Ralph Macchio. It's a pretty thing.

No. And I need to find a copy of it, right now.
It definitely looks great, and it was done at a pretty interesting part of Sienkiewicz's artistic development.

The less said about the actual story, the better, in my opinion.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32225#Comment_32225 2008-03-21T22:08:54-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Spiraltwist http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=426 It definitely looks great, and it was done at a pretty interesting part of Sienkiewicz's artistic development. That's enough for me to pick it up right there, even if the story is only so-so. It definitely looks great, and it was done at a pretty interesting part of Sienkiewicz's artistic development.

That's enough for me to pick it up right there, even if the story is only so-so.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32232#Comment_32232 2008-03-21T23:14:11-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Rootfireember http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1551 I'm gonna blame y'all if I start drawing sandworms in mathclass now. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32242#Comment_32242 2008-03-22T00:33:57-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Alan Tyson http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1299 Well, what else would you do in math class? else would you do in math class?]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32252#Comment_32252 2008-03-22T01:05:35-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 m1k3y http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1090 @mybrainhurts - oh, Berg did Welcome to the Jungle? best rope swinging, midget fight scene EVA
best rope swinging, midget fight scene EVA]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32264#Comment_32264 2008-03-22T02:42:08-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Vespers http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=554 Man, that movie kinda sucked (especially compared to that one where The Rock trashes a casino with a piece of 2x4), but the rope-swinging midget fight scene did rock. And that last blowing-shit-up ...
But not as pretty as sandworms. Ever since I first read Dune, I've wanted to see a decent movie adaptation of the bit when Paul and the Fremen blow the shit out of the Wall with the House Nukes and ride the Worms through into the plain at Arrakeen. Cos that's one of the best bits in the whole book. Yeah, I dunno why either.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32272#Comment_32272 2008-03-22T03:08:29-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 pisgah http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=806 I will fight till no Harkonen breathes Arakeen air. Didn't read a thing. Saw a movie once many eons ago and they handed out a little info cheat-sheet to keep you informed. Didn't need it. Loved it. ... New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32274#Comment_32274 2008-03-22T03:28:32-07:00 2008-03-22T03:54:00-07:00 Walker James http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=526 @pisgah: Oh me God. It is hard, even in my drunken state, to comprehend WTF u r talkin' about. I can understand many of the terms. But God. U r more fooked up than me. How can u even bring finger ...
Oh me God. It is hard, even in my drunken state, to comprehend WTF u r talkin' about. I can understand many of the terms. But God. U r more fooked up than me. How can u even bring finger 2 keyboard in ur state?

And yes, Dino Di Laurentis was an AWESOME producer. But, most of what u said didn't make sense.

"Didn't read a thing. Saw a movie once many eons ago" Well u kneed 2 read a book. U bitch fook.

EDIT: negate facts in what I just said. I am almost as bad as pisgah.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32444#Comment_32444 2008-03-22T22:45:56-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 stsparky http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2311 I remember watching a very long version of the Lynch film that had Mike Ploog illustrated storyboards explaining the anti-Machine period along with added narration by the Empress/Historian while in ...
The TV version had heart. And all blue eyes. One doesn't negate the other.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32455#Comment_32455 2008-03-22T23:23:51-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Brent Wilcox http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1653 @stsparky - yeah, that's the "Smithee" version - from what I understand Lynch didn't have the time to supervise a "director's cut", so footage unused in the theatrical version was ... New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32467#Comment_32467 2008-03-23T01:07:44-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 seandehey http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1827 the lynch movie more effectively captures the soul of dune, at the cost of accuracy to the novel. the deliciously over the top acting from all hands, the complete insanity of the production design, ...
the scifi miniseries was marginally longer (half again vs the extended cut, twice as long as the theatrical cut) but it still wasn't long enough. it was more faithful to the specificity of the novel, but had no soul. the production design and visual style ranged from good to blandly unimaginative. the acting was largely wooden and lifeless. the cgi exteriors and the sandworms were solid, but the sets looked like soundstages. they cut the internal monologue and voice over, but that meant half the book had to be clumsily inserted into dialogue. it looked kind of like dune, but it didn't feel like dune.

i should point out that i never finished the scifi channel version, and that counts as a knock against it, in the same way that it's not fair for me to tell someone who couldn't finish the lynch version that they're wrong, and it really is good. it actually IS quite good, in it's way, but that doesn't matter. it's not good in a way that they can appreciate, and that's an important distinction.

i should also point out that one of my earliest memories was sitting in our living room staring up at the tv, watching the scene where paul first rides the worm. i was around three years old. the lynch movie has been my idea of how dune looked and felt since before i could read, let alone before i'd read the actual novel.

regardless of which version you prefer, neither ultimately satisfies compared to the book unless taken as a seperate thing. to really adapt it, to do the story justice, you would need either peter jackson (massive budget, a trilogy of three hour movies, extended dvd cuts, complete and absolute control from a single masterful auteur) or ron moore / joss whedon (thirteen-ish hour long episodes, slow burn pacing, effective use of sfx vs soundstages, good set and costume design, and a focus on character instead of action).

essentially, unless you can make an hbo series with the budget of a major hollywood blockbuster, you can't do the action stunts and take the time to do the politics. you'd have to focus on one or the other. this is exactly what you see when you compare the lynch and scifi versions, and both have strengths and weaknesses therein.

lynch made dune as an 80s fantasy movie. scifi made dune as half a season of stargate. both failed as adaptations of the source material. therefore, if the worst thing that can happen here is that peter berg makes dune as a flashy explosion-fest with ham-handed dialogue and politics, then we're running three for three on bad dune adaptations.

it will probably not be a masterpiece, but as long as it's watcheable, it can't be any worse than what's come before. and since doing it as a single movie is doomed to failure no matter who's making it, we can just accept right now that it will never do the novel justice, and treat it as it's own thing.

from that point of view, this could be totally great. short of good scifi, there's nothing i love more than bad scifi.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32705#Comment_32705 2008-03-23T21:52:20-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 twitch_ramirez http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2478 @seandehey >from that point of view, this could be totally great. short of good scifi, there's nothing i love more than bad scifi. well said! with the price of films today, they will have ...

well said! with the price of films today, they will have to sacrifice some part of the story to put on screen the other part.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32710#Comment_32710 2008-03-23T22:19:48-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Rootfireember http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1551 HBO Dune w/Hollywood effects would be ...awesome. Can't see it happening, but ...I can dream, can't I? New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32722#Comment_32722 2008-03-23T23:00:54-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 johnjones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1052 I don't see God Emperor of Dune translating well to the small or large screen. I don't know, maybe if it were animated I don't see God Emperor of Dune translating well to the small or large screen.

I don't know, maybe if it were animated]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32786#Comment_32786 2008-03-24T07:49:49-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 GiuseppeM http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1929 An interesting look into Radical Islam and DUNE. Follow the link. http://volokh.com/posts/1190502423.shtml
http://volokh.com/posts/1190502423.shtml]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32891#Comment_32891 2008-03-24T19:03:18-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Brent Wilcox http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1653 GiuseppeM - Had to pull a piece of your linked article, Orson Scott Card saying, "Whether Dune had any causal influence on the rise of Al Qaeda, Herbert certainly did a superb job of ... Had to pull a piece of your linked article, Orson Scott Card saying,
"Whether Dune had any causal influence on the rise of Al Qaeda, Herbert certainly did a superb job of predicting the rise and the power of such an ideology. I would be surprised if there were not, among the followers of Osama bin Laden, at least a few readers of Dune for whom this book feels like their future, their identity, their dream."


Does anyone remember some talk a few years ago (maybe it was in Fortean Times) that Osama was actually a fan of Asimov's Foundation (which is what Al Qaida could be roughly translated as)?]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32898#Comment_32898 2008-03-24T20:22:49-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 "Whether Dune had any causal influence on the rise of Al Qaeda, Herbert certainly did a superb job of predicting the rise and the power of such an ideology. I would be surprised if there were ... "Whether Dune had any causal influence on the rise of Al Qaeda, Herbert certainly did a superb job of predicting the rise and the power of such an ideology. I would be surprised if there were not, among the followers of Osama bin Laden, at least a few readers of Dune for whom this book feels like their future, their identity, their dream."

...that's the most retarded thing I've heard all day.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=32899#Comment_32899 2008-03-24T20:30:27-07:00 2008-03-24T20:30:54-07:00 TechnocratJT http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=558 @Warren, I have found the less one ever hears what Orson Scott Card actually has to say about anything the better off you are. Ender's Game might be a modern classic, but I can't stomach or look ...
I have found the less one ever hears what Orson Scott Card actually has to say about anything the better off you are. Ender's Game might be a modern classic, but I can't stomach or look at anything the man says these days without getting a migraine. That quote surprises me not at all.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=33028#Comment_33028 2008-03-25T09:07:11-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 GiuseppeM http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1929 As I said, an interesting look into Dune and Islam. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=33034#Comment_33034 2008-03-25T09:24:40-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 orwellseyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2119 ...that's the most retarded thing I've heard all day. Orson Scott Card really doesn't disappoint. His usual bag of homophobic bullshit is impressive enough, but connecting Dune and Al-Queda? ... ...that's the most retarded thing I've heard all day.

Orson Scott Card really doesn't disappoint. His usual bag of homophobic bullshit is impressive enough, but connecting Dune and Al-Queda? That's taking it up a level.

Unless Ender's Game cures baby cancer he's not excused from being a doofus.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=33597#Comment_33597 2008-03-27T18:29:58-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 melbradley http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1437 hi, I'm really late to this thread and website. I've been reading everyone's comments about both versions of Dune and no one has pointed out the my biggest pet peeve with the Sci-Fi version: the ... I'm really late to this thread and website.

I've been reading everyone's comments about both versions of Dune and no one has pointed out the my biggest pet peeve with the Sci-Fi version: the pronounciations of a lot of the character's names are wrong. I guess they wanted to distance themselves from Lynch's film and didn't know that Frank Herbert approved how to correctly speak all the names and terminology.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=33632#Comment_33632 2008-03-27T21:13:56-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Noukon http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=225 One major flaw of both previous adaptations, at least as far as I'm concerned, is that they fail to present Arrakis as a main "character" in and of itself. The Sci-Fi miniseries is ... Star Wars and Stargate can make us believe we're in a vast, unending desert, there's no reason Dune can't.

Worth noting: Each "Act" of Dune could easily be adapted into its own, modular film, and the novel as a whole could thus be presented as a trilogy. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to me that the mainstream film market can support that for any property lesspopular than LotR or Harry Potter.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=33646#Comment_33646 2008-03-27T22:04:39-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 seandehey http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1827 behold: the dune pronunciation guide. these are clips from an audiobook read by herbert. i guess har-kone-en was wrong all along? watching the scifi version, every time someone said hark-enen, ... the dune pronunciation guide. these are clips from an audiobook read by herbert.

i guess har-kone-en was wrong all along? watching the scifi version, every time someone said hark-enen, it drove me nuts. yet, here is herbert saying it like that. damn. i think i'll stick with the lynch pronunciation in my own head, but it'll be interesting to see which gets used if this new film gets off the ground.

i haven't seen the desert bits of the lynch movie in years, but i seem to recall them being more convincing than a pile of sand on a soundstage. even so, while it'd be better than scifi did, i do hope we get something more than simply flying the cast out to tunisia and pointing a camera at them. i don't want arrakis to look like any terrestrial desert.

lucas on tatooine in the prequels got a nice sense of scale, but his cinematography wasn't so hot. i'd want to see something like weta did on lotr with the composite landscapes, or something closer to what i presume are the cgi landscapes from the third harry potter movie and on forward. alfonso cauron came on board, and suddenly hogwarts was in a place, instead of simply a series of rooms with a courtyard and a lawn. some of the landscape shots leading up to the maddeningly not-included quidditch world cup in the fourth movie were spectacular.

the cgi shots in the scifi version were pretty great; throw some hollywood money at that and we're getting there. i want rock formations of staggering scale, i want dunes that stretch over the horizon and forever, i want sand-blasted mountains ranges and sandstorms the size of hurricanes. this is not simply a patch of sand, this is a desert planet, and the closest i ever got to a real sense of that outside the novel was the wierd adventure-ish game based on the lynch movie that sierra put out back in like 91.

that game was awesome, and the overworld map of dune was impressively detailed. also, you could ride sandworms later in the game and choose to just sit back and watch the whole trip.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=33676#Comment_33676 2008-03-28T04:41:55-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Insect King http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1357 Indeed. "Send men, to summon, WOOOOOORRRRRRRRRMZ..." is the best thing SciFi Channel has ever done. Au contraire, Lost Room has been the best thing the SciFi Channel has ever done. It ... Indeed. "Send men, to summon, WOOOOOORRRRRRRRRMZ..." is the best thing SciFi Channel has ever done.

Au contraire, Lost Room has been the best thing the SciFi Channel has ever done. It might be clocked when George Clooney's production of Stephenson's Diamond Age ever gets made.

I'm in the "I love Lynch's Dune" category. I saw it when I was twelve and the whole movie was that amazing Baron Harkonnen and some other stuff with sound guns. The Baron in book was nothing compared to that performance and script. Fucking heart-plugs, man!]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=33725#Comment_33725 2008-03-28T08:52:42-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 stsparky http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2311 The audiobook clips sounds like what scholars claim is classical Aramaic from what I can hear. Though at this point, I'd like to see films of other book made. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=33746#Comment_33746 2008-03-28T11:08:12-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 orwellseyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2119 Stsparky: If you're interested in Herbert's language research that went into Dune there's a book called "The Road to Dune" his son (ugh) put out. Has alot of insight into how much work ...
If you're interested in Herbert's language research that went into Dune there's a book called "The Road to Dune" his son (ugh) put out. Has alot of insight into how much work he put into making the language sound 'right'. Also has an early draft of the Dune book that is much more traditionally 60's sci-fi. Worth a look.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=33756#Comment_33756 2008-03-28T11:29:09-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 (ugh)? New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=33784#Comment_33784 2008-03-28T12:57:51-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 orwellseyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2119 Nothing personal, but have you read any of the books he's written with Kevin Anderson set in the Dune universe? They're pretty awful, some of them come across like overheated fan fiction. They ...
His writing about his Father isn't so bad, though I'd say that anyone reading might be a bit less interested in their relationship than in Herbert's process/work.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=33838#Comment_33838 2008-03-28T16:20:04-07:00 2008-03-28T16:23:50-07:00 Cat Vincent http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=447 I actually managed to fight my way through the whole Anderson/Brian Herbert cycle, in chronological order (with the originals at the right point) and despite the less-than-sprightly prose style, the ...
I like all the versions to various degrees, even the Smithee cut.

There's an element to the Lynch that hasn't been touched on as yet here - the bits he added, specifically the 'sound as a weapon' stuff.
The speech Paul gives after blowing up the onyx pyramid by shouting at it (even writing that gives me a smile!) is a paraphrase of a quote from the Sufi master Jalalluddin Rumi about prayer. Well, except for the bit about exploding organs.
I thought adding that extra touch of desert mysticism - and the cool shouty-guns - worked, but it was an odd choice to add material, considering how much was binned. I've not found any specific comment from Lynch on the subject, but I assume it was there for a reason. The closest I've found is one interview which has him saying;
Reading the first 60 pages was embarassing, but then I became addicted, I just couldn`t get enough of it. And I realized that it might become a great film. I chose to do it the other way around. I tried to reduce the core of the story to a few pages, to add details to this basis. So I didn`t take from the novel, but added to its core.

(Interestingly, in that interview with Lynch, just before the release of Dune, he says he was signed to do a sequel... there's an interesting lost opportunity.)

Last thought... I just hope that Berg's version finally has the full banquet scene - perhaps my favourite moment in the book. Though admittedly a challenge to adapt, with the battle language subtext and all.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=33841#Comment_33841 2008-03-28T16:28:44-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Noukon http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=225 Anyone else see the 4-hour edition (with some of the deleted scenes, plus linking pieces of storyboard narrated by Robert Loggia)? Worth it, especially for Patrick Stewart singing his heart out as ... Anyone else see the 4-hour edition (with some of the deleted scenes, plus linking pieces of storyboard narrated by Robert Loggia)? Worth it, especially for Patrick Stewart singing his heart out as Gurney!

I have a lot of trouble with this version... mostly because the re-edit was butchered pretty badly. It's interesting to see everything that got cut, but the way the score has been removed and re-placed (mostly inappropriately) makes it something of a pain to slog through, and the inconsistent special effect use in the restored footage is really distracting. It would be interesting to see what someone could do with a new, "perfect" re-edit, using all the original elements.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=33847#Comment_33847 2008-03-28T16:45:10-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 orwellseyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2119 Cat Vincent: What bugged me about the Herbert/Anderson was how...perfunctory they are. Very linear, step by step, almost outline form. They felt less squishy, less weird and poetic as Herbert's ...
What bugged me about the Herbert/Anderson was how...perfunctory they are. Very linear, step by step, almost outline form. They felt less squishy, less weird and poetic as Herbert's originals.

Maybe it's just a difference in desire. I'd rather see things left off the page, more mystery and less explination. I really didn't care how the Machine Crusade played out, or how the Baron really got so fat. I like intimation and conjecture more than clarity at times. The unreliability of narrative and story in the Dune books was part of the fun. Characters becoming legends, legends becoming gods, all out the germ of confusion.

Sorry, just geeking out a bit there.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=33875#Comment_33875 2008-03-28T17:58:44-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Cat Vincent http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=447 @Orwellseyes: I do see your point - and the linear aspect of the books was problematic, to say the least. But despite that, the plot actually kept me interested. @Noukon: (I cut that bit of my ... I do see your point - and the linear aspect of the books was problematic, to say the least. But despite that, the plot actually kept me interested.

@Noukon:
(I cut that bit of my post - must've been just after you saw it - as I was too sleepy/dumb to have read the rest of the thread before writing that bit!)
The Smithee cut is problematic, but the scenes restored - Leto/Stilgar's first meeting, with the spitting on the desk for instance - were pretty good. The device of using storyboard pics plus narration wasn't the best choice, but it did explain the plot for everyone who'd not actually read the book.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=33880#Comment_33880 2008-03-28T18:07:55-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Steven Thomas http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=462 @Cat Vincent You're right. That detail about the Power of Sound..of noises or particular words...it's an interesting insertion and one i quite like. I've always enjoyed the Lynch film for many ...
You're right. That detail about the Power of Sound..of noises or particular words...it's an interesting insertion and one i quite like.

I've always enjoyed the Lynch film for many of the reasons others have mentioned...the ambience and the strangeness and the sense of mystic as well as cryptic.
I liked the Sci Fi versions also in some regards but it never engaged me with the same sense of wonder and mystery that Lynch conveyed through scenery and the repitition of some dialogues and phrases..spoken throughout the film like mantras.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=34656#Comment_34656 2008-03-30T19:49:48-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 blake peterson http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=808 On Lynch's Dune: There's a bit of a mythic quality to the production of Lynch's film version in that there's a lot of stories that fly around about it. Lynch himself has said (most notably in ... Dune:

There's a bit of a mythic quality to the production of Lynch's film version in that there's a lot of stories that fly around about it. Lynch himself has said (most notably in Lynch on Lynch, an excellent book of interviews) that he was more interested in making the sequels than the original Dune film. I have to say that I think that his skills as a director are probably much mored matched for the tone of Dune Messiah than the original book (a God Emperor of Dune movie probably would have made some Lynch-fare that harkened back to the imagery of Eraserhead, with the worm/Leto II reminiscent of that seminal Lynch image of "the baby").

I would have liked to have seen a more comprehensive cut of Lynch's version of the film (the extended cut notably removes many "Lynch-isms" like the David Foster Wallace coined "Heart-plug rape") and multiple drafts of the script (which Lynch penned himself) can be found on a website devoted to Dune film adaptations:

http://www.duneinfo.com/caladan/script_index.asp

When Lynch showed his rough cut to producers, it ran somewhere around 4 hours long as I recall, and he was asked to trim the film heavily. The theatrical cut runs just at about 2 hours and 15 minutes. This leaves a lot on the cutting room floor. The same site that hosts the screenplays claims that most these scenes can be found in Lynch's 6th draft of the script. Some of these trimmed sequences can be viewed (heavily degraded) as extras on the Dune Extended Cut DVD (though Lynch walked away from the actual "Extended Cut" as others have noted). A certain amount of trimming is normal following any rough cut but that's a lot of material to lose, this may explain why there is a strange clip-show-like montage in the center of the film.


As for Peter Berg as the director of a new adaptation:

I think when it comes to epic film storytelling, it can be difficult to judge how directors may be able to accommodate the story. I was a fan of Peter Jackson's films before Lord of the Rings, especially Meet the Feebles. None of his films, including his previous run at Hollywood in The Frighteners would have suggested Lord of the Rings to me or the way in which he constructed those films. I remember thinking A guy who makes a movies that includes lines like "I kick ass for The Lord!" is making Lord of the Rings?. Little did I know that he would just make the Orcs his Feeble-foils, "Meat's back on the menu, boys!"

Which isn't to hold up Jackson as the paragon of fantasy filmmaking, but just to say that a filmmaker's work may not necessarily be entirely indicative of how they may proceed, especially on what may be a dream project. Although there are, of course many films that are directly contrary to this: Chris Weitz' The Golden Compass for example.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=34665#Comment_34665 2008-03-30T20:18:42-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Admiral Neck http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=919 Berg's done one terrible movie (Very Bad Things), a frustrating movie (The Kingdom), and two of my favourites (Friday Night Lights and Welcome To The Jungle / The Rundown, which I will not hear a bad ...
Re: the guy who played Gurney in Children of Dune, wasn't he also in Renny Harlin's "remake" of Paul Schrader's Exorcist prequel? Worst performance in a major movie ever. Seriously. He should have been kicked out of Equity over it. Yes, it's a a piece of shit movie, but to think an actual actor lost out on a payday because this joker got to get the part instead, is just GAH.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=34814#Comment_34814 2008-03-31T07:57:21-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 dnwilliams http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2900 i'm going to be doing a dissertation on dystopian fiction this year and someone recently recommended i read dune for this... it was something i'd wanted to read anyway but, from what i gather, ... dune for this...

it was something i'd wanted to read anyway but, from what i gather, it's not dystopian, is it?]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=34819#Comment_34819 2008-03-31T08:01:18-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 No, it's not. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=34820#Comment_34820 2008-03-31T08:03:13-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 If you want an obscure sf dystopia that will surprise everyone, by the way, hunt out a copy of Thomas Disch's ON WINGS OF SONG. Thomas Disch's ON WINGS OF SONG.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=34822#Comment_34822 2008-03-31T08:03:47-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 gingergit http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1847 that game was awesome, and the overworld map of dune was impressively detailed. also, you could ride sandworms later in the game and choose to just sit back and watch the whole trip. It was a ... that game was awesome, and the overworld map of dune was impressively detailed. also, you could ride sandworms later in the game and choose to just sit back and watch the whole trip.

It was a cracking game. The sequel was pretty much the development for the Command and Conquer series after that, wasn't it?

And - for the heck of it - I love the Lynch film. The whale-sperm guild navigators floating around in their tanks were one of the most enduring images I can remember seeing as a kid.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=35020#Comment_35020 2008-03-31T14:06:58-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 dnwilliams http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2900 thanks warren, will do New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=36085#Comment_36085 2008-04-03T02:31:41-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Brent Wilcox http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1653 I was thinking about Cordwainer Smith's Nostrillia, and realized some of it could be a parody of Dune. There's stroon, the immortality-inducing drug produced by huge, diseased mutant sheep on the ... Nostrillia, and realized some of it could be a parody of Dune. There's stroon, the immortality-inducing drug produced by huge, diseased mutant sheep on the unpleasantly harsh planet of Old North Australia... populated by simple, multi-billionaire shepherds. (And written about the same time as Dune)]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=36103#Comment_36103 2008-04-03T04:28:45-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Winther http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2913 The original Dune game was what led me to the movie, which lead to the books. I still play it from time to time, although it really is astoundingly easy once you know how everything works. I think my ...
I loved the movie the first time I saw it. I can't have been older than 11, 12 years old, and I had to close my eyes when the Baron did the flying blood-shower thing. Reading the novel years later severely diminished my enjoyment of the movie. I've seen the first mini-series, which, while it may have been more faithful, was a huge step down acting-wise. And visually - not just in terms of CG, but the general aesthetic - I far prefer Lynch's film. Haven't seen Children, though.

As for this new adaptation... I'll remain catiously optimistic for the time being. I will not apologize for thoroughly enjoying Welcome to the Jungle, and I think parts of The Kingdom showed significant talent on Peter Berg's part, the introductory credits being one of them. I don't think he's done anything that makes him wrong for the film, and while that might sound like faint praise, it'll do till more details come in.

I wouldn't have pegged Jon Favreau as the perfect guy to bring Iron Man to the screen, either, and everything I've seen for that movie has left me salivating. You never know what people can do with the right material, and Berg certainly seems passionate about this.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=36210#Comment_36210 2008-04-03T12:34:50-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 lamuella http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=676 I picked up all the issues of the 1980s Dune comic adaptation for 50 cents each at my comic store a few months ago. It's a great, and pretty, adaptation, but my favorite thing about it is the ...
It's a great, and pretty, adaptation, but my favorite thing about it is the old-school ads throughout the book. It even contains the original source image for "How do I shot web?"]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=36670#Comment_36670 2008-04-04T19:28:25-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 flowbert69 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2735 If you want an obscure sf dystopia that will surprise everyone, by the way, hunt out a copy of Thomas Disch's ON WINGS OF SONG. just went out and picked this up, it's great. thanks! If you want an obscure sf dystopia that will surprise everyone, by the way, hunt out a copy of Thomas Disch's ON WINGS OF SONG.

just went out and picked this up, it's great. thanks!]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=36675#Comment_36675 2008-04-04T20:02:14-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 My pleasure. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=36679#Comment_36679 2008-04-04T20:19:01-07:00 2008-04-04T20:19:24-07:00 orwellseyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2119 Any of the Dune fans on here ever come across this book? It's a semi-official book, Herbert let the author read semi-completed portions of "God Emperor". It died out due to ...


It's a semi-official book, Herbert let the author read semi-completed portions of "God Emperor". It died out due to "copyright issues" and Herbert's son took a completely different direction with the stories then what's in this book, so it's likely to stay dead.

Fascinating stuff if you can get your hands on it. The authors contributing entries (including Herbert himself according to some) on everything from languages to religion to characters of legend in the Dune Universe. Their version of the Butlerian Jihad is far more entertaining than the prequels. It goes for around 30 bucks, three times cover price funnily enough.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=36732#Comment_36732 2008-04-05T06:19:50-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 Is that the one that Matt Howarth illustrated? New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=36748#Comment_36748 2008-04-05T09:25:35-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 orwellseyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2119 Is that the one that Matt Howarth illustrated? Yes. Some really nice little portraits of some of the main characters. Speaking of art and Dune, have you seen the short picture/story "Road ... Is that the one that Matt Howarth illustrated?

Yes. Some really nice little portraits of some of the main characters.

Speaking of art and Dune, have you seen the short picture/story "Road to Dune" that Herbert did with Jim Burns? It was collected in "Eye". A walking tour of Arrakis in pencil art and guidebook style. That collection also has Herbert writing about working with David Lynch on the Dune movie. Two very strange men.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=55490#Comment_55490 2008-06-03T07:49:36-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Rachæl Tyrell http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=552 I've come a bit late to this thread... Most of which I'd have added has already been said (Lynch's version got the tone and the scale of the books, the SciFi series looked like a sound stage, ...
Most of which I'd have added has already been said (Lynch's version got the tone and the scale of the books, the SciFi series looked like a sound stage, Sting and Kyle are beautiful in the original, etc...).

However, as far as the question asked earlier on: "Why always Dune?"... well, I think Dune is the closest science fiction equivalent to Lord of the Rings.

From a personal standpoint, I tried to get into the Lord of the Rings books a number of times when I was 13, but they simply didnt' grab me. The Dune series however... I blew through the first four books off the series the summer before highschool, and my brain nearly exploded. I tried to memorize every Arakeen term in the glossary. I designed and built an overly complicated three legged chair in shop class, due to references of Harkonnen furniture.

My point is, that while there might be more people out there learning Elvish and carrying broadswoards than those designing stillsuits (GOD I want one), the level of immersion and devotion amoungst the fans is equivalent.

I find the idea of making an adaptation of the book(s) to maintain the proper scale, detail, immesity, complexity, and tone as unlikely and strenuous as the LOTR films. I somehow doubt that another Peter Jackson anomale will emerge to give the same kind of kid-gloved respect to the Dune series.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=71151#Comment_71151 2008-07-29T00:43:53-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 leech http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4102 Everyone seems to have said most of what I was going to. I am both mildly looking forward to and quietly dreading this movie. much as I felt about star wars eps 2&3 The dune series is my ... I am both mildly looking forward to and quietly dreading this movie.
much as I felt about star wars eps 2&3
The dune series is my favorite series of books ever, I loved both Lynch's and the two miniseries for their own reasons. Though whilst both worked in certain ways they also ultimately fell flat for the simple reason that Dune is an INCREADIBLY hard book to adapt. Multiple languages, internal dialogs, gesture communication and layers upon layers upon layers. It is an incredibly complex and amazingly mind blowing book, that would take a writer/director of considerable talent to capture even half of it's greatness.
I only have two major hopes for this movie
1 is that it isn't turned into a one dimensional "revenge" movie
and
2 that the bring back these millenry gems:



]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=71153#Comment_71153 2008-07-29T01:19:04-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 nick3pointone4 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4092 well i'm interested in this movie with a sort of cautious optimism, i guess we'll see. but to be honest the only adaptation of dune that i ever really wanted to see was the jodorowsky version, but ...
but to be honest the only adaptation of dune that i ever really wanted to see was the jodorowsky version, but never went anywhere, which i think is quite tragic. but it looks like he's getting to make king shot so that's a bonus.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=71214#Comment_71214 2008-07-29T08:58:25-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 edkaye http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3789 I'm actually re-reading Dune at the moment. I haven't read the series since I was 15. It is even better than I remember it being. I have seen David Lynch's adaptation, and it was interesting. It ... Dune at the moment. I haven't read the series since I was 15. It is even better than I remember it being.

I have seen David Lynch's adaptation, and it was interesting. It was to Dune the Novel what David Cronenberg's version of Crash was to J.G. Ballards novel. In that he took certain aspects from the source he chose to explore, and sort of changed the story to his own style. Which isn't to say it was bad, it was just different.

I remember catching a few episodes of the mini-series a couple of years back. I didn't really enjoy it, it had that over-polished feeling that many US mini-series of that time period had. I haven't seen the Children of Dune series they did. I understand that it combines the plot from God Emperor and Children. I might try and check it out some time.

I'll approach a new movie with trepidation. It is a massive story to adapt, and it would be very easy to lose the depth of the material and just pump out an FX-fest to please the masses. Damn, I am a cynical fuck.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=71227#Comment_71227 2008-07-29T10:14:32-07:00 2008-07-29T10:15:06-07:00 Digitalyn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2841 However, as far as the question asked earlier on: "Why always Dune?"... well, I think Dune is the closest science fiction equivalent to Lord of the Rings. From a personal standpoint, I ... However, as far as the question asked earlier on: "Why always Dune?"... well, I think Dune is the closest science fiction equivalent to Lord of the Rings.

From a personal standpoint, I tried to get into the Lord of the Rings books a number of times when I was 13, but they simply didnt' grab me. The Dune series however... I blew through the first four books off the series the summer before highschool, and my brain nearly exploded. I tried to memorize every Arakeen term in the glossary. I designed and built an overly complicated three legged chair in shop class, due to references of Harkonnen furniture.

Same here. I always troll my friends about LOTR because i couldn't get into it, they finally close any convo we could have about it by telling me that i was "a girl so i couldn't understand LOTR". Never heard of anything more stupid.
On the other hand i need to re-read the Dune serie every two or three years and each time i catch a small detail i didn't notice at first.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=71273#Comment_71273 2008-07-29T13:20:46-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 howyadoin http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1675 Their version of the Butlerian Jihad is far more entertaining than the prequels.So it wasn't Robot Wars, then? Their version of the Butlerian Jihad is far more entertaining than the prequels.So it wasn't Robot Wars, then?]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=71336#Comment_71336 2008-07-29T16:53:21-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Blye http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4112 It wouldn't be possible to do a film adaptation of DUNE that ever did justice to the novel. The Lynch film (and i do LOVE Lynch) missed the boat and ended up on it's own path... a bastardized ...

The Lynch film (and i do LOVE Lynch) missed the boat and ended up on it's own path... a bastardized version of Herbert's odd vision and the odd visions of Lynch himself.... even though it is (despite some plot similarities) NOT Dune it is still worth rewatching over and over again for it's delicious camp value. "I WILL KILL YOU!!! I WILL KILL HIM!!!" i love the visuals and the Lynchian performances but... it just doesn't capture the book.

The SciFi miniseries miss the point even further. Though they are closer PLOTWISE to the book they lack even more of that element that makes Dune of of the greatest scifi/fantasy/theological series of all time. They get the PLOT and the Action correct but they seem to miss a good bit of the motivation... of the emotion.. of the concepts that Herbert was begging us to consider.

If one really wanted to make a film that was TRUE to Dune... that brought forth the essence of Dune... one would have to completely and totally rape the book and start over with the tiny bits and pieces that could be used to actually bring out what Herbert was talking about in a cinematographic way.

The scifi series, especially, seemed to be focused on "MAN, IT IS GOING TO BE AWESOME WHEN THE LASER HITS THE SHIELD!!!" instead of rocking out what Herbert really had to SAY.


And Dune didn't "foretell" al-Qaeda. Herbert was writing about al-Qaeda. Violent religious extremist groups centering around a messianic character didn't start the planes struck the trade center. They didn't just start springing up in the 20th century or even the 1rst millenium AD they've always been with us. Herbert was simply giving a reflection of that... especially of the big three monotheist that sprung up in the deserts surrounding the fertile crescent.

"WE HAVE WORMSIGN THE LIKES OF WHICH EVEN GOD HAS NEVER SEEN!!!" -Big Ed Hurley (yeah, i totally agree on that one, dude :P)]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=71337#Comment_71337 2008-07-29T16:54:29-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Blye http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4112 Oh, and Kevin J Anderson and Frank Herbert Jr missed the point BIG TIME as well. Their novels are perversions of a vision... not to be hypercritical or anything. :P New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=73076#Comment_73076 2008-08-04T20:55:59-07:00 2008-08-04T21:05:26-07:00 Sasha_mak http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1550 I've been looking up the stuff on Jodorowsky's Dune and let me tell ya, this would've been something special. They fucking projected this thing to be 10 fucking hours long, and the final draft of the ... Orson Welles, Dali, Moebius, Pink Floyd, Giger(who designed the Alien from Alien) were all involved in some form during pre production.
Here are some designs by Moebius:


]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=73081#Comment_73081 2008-08-04T21:43:44-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Blye http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4112 oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh i take it back that lineup and those visuals..... mmmmmmmmmmmmm If the almost indispensible monologues were done through music (I am not talking about ...
i take it back

that lineup and those visuals.....

mmmmmmmmmmmmm

If the almost indispensible monologues were done through music

(I am not talking about Dune THE MUSICAL.... but that would be FUCKING HOT as well.... DUNE the ROCK OPERA)


the scene where Paul takes the water of life done as a Trippy "THE WALL"esque sequence instead of the cheesefest it has been in the produced movies....

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

"I am the very model of a modern Kwisatch Haderach!!" ...no wait... no, not like that...]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=73107#Comment_73107 2008-08-05T00:18:13-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 zoem http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1959 I would go see DUNE the ROCK OPERA. In a heartbeat. I don't have a strong attachment to the books - I thought they were good but they didn't shake the ground for me. I really like Lynch's Dune, ...
I don't have a strong attachment to the books - I thought they were good but they didn't shake the ground for me. I really like Lynch's Dune, but it is an *adaptation*, and like most good adaptations it has to leave a lot of the source behind. It managed to be pretty epic, atmospheric, creepy and good.

I'd love to see another good adaptation, or series thereof. There's enough material there to make 10 movies and still not cover it all.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=73109#Comment_73109 2008-08-05T00:20:12-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 earl http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3960 The SciFi channel mini-series were OK and worth watching, even though they were not perfect, I was happy that they at least got made. I kept hoping they would make God Emperor of Dune, as that is ... New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=73149#Comment_73149 2008-08-05T07:29:26-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Sasha_mak http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1550 I think if Lynch did a director's cut it would be amazing. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=73186#Comment_73186 2008-08-05T10:32:06-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 edkaye http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3789 Have you ever heard the Iron Maiden song To Tame a Land? It is based on dune. It's great, but a little cheesy in an 80s metal way. Tame a Land? It is based on dune. It's great, but a little cheesy in an 80s metal way.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=73193#Comment_73193 2008-08-05T11:08:56-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Cat Vincent http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=447 @edkaye: 'a little bit cheesy' is an understatement -it's quite an experience listening to Bruce Dickenson wrap his larynx around lines like; He is the Kwisatz Haderach, He is born of ... 'a little bit cheesy' is an understatement -it's quite an experience listening to Bruce Dickenson wrap his larynx around lines like;

He is the Kwisatz Haderach,
He is born of Caladan
And will take the Gom Jabbar.

Great riff though.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=73203#Comment_73203 2008-08-05T11:45:09-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Steve http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2593 Back in college a buddy made a hard trance mixtape using some sounds from Lynch's Dune. It was called wormsign. Thanks to this thread I have tracked it down and am listening to it. The sad part ... New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=73320#Comment_73320 2008-08-05T19:26:00-07:00 2008-08-05T20:34:59-07:00 Sasha_mak http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1550 Oh and the concept behind the Emperor of the galaxy in Jodorowsky's Dune was that he was insane and lives in this artificial gold planet with a robot version of himself. New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=73328#Comment_73328 2008-08-05T20:06:14-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Blye http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4112 Back in college a buddy made a hard trance mixtape using some sounds from Lynch's Dune. It was called wormsign. Thanks to this thread I have tracked it down and am listening to it. The sad part is, ... Back in college a buddy made a hard trance mixtape using some sounds from Lynch's Dune. It was called wormsign. Thanks to this thread I have tracked it down and am listening to it. The sad part is, this mix is now 10 years old.

awwww

We want to hear it

(yes i feel free to speak for the collective)]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=75023#Comment_75023 2008-08-11T11:09:25-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 ZJVavrek http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4243 @orwellseyes When I was in High School, my town library had a copy of the Dune Encyclopedia, which I have always thought was downright fantastic. A couple years ago, I tracked down a copy on ...
When I was in High School, my town library had a copy of the Dune Encyclopedia, which I have always thought was downright fantastic. A couple years ago, I tracked down a copy on eBay. Mine has a different cover, strangely. I've never seen it anywhere else.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=75036#Comment_75036 2008-08-11T11:25:13-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 LBA http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=615 @ Blye I can say at least that you speak for me. I'd be very interested in hearing it
I can say at least that you speak for me. I'd be very interested in hearing it]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=75074#Comment_75074 2008-08-11T12:14:41-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 SexyMcmanbeast http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4240


fly!]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=75142#Comment_75142 2008-08-11T13:54:54-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 bairdduvessa http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=397 im hesitant about this. i never cared for the original...the miniseries got me to read the books, but even that could be painful at times (i was introduced by a friends obsessive renting of the sega ...
still a faithful adaptation could be really good.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=75717#Comment_75717 2008-08-12T21:01:36-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Rachæl Tyrell http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=552 SexyMcManbeast - mmmm... tasty lanky nakedy Sting. I actually made a three legged chair in 8th grade shop class based on a reference to Harkonnen furniture design in "Dune". I ...
mmmm... tasty lanky nakedy Sting.

I actually made a three legged chair in 8th grade shop class based on a reference to Harkonnen furniture design in "Dune".

I had also strung together my own insult from Fremen terms, and took to calling the boy I'd a crush on what would be translated as a "know-nothing donkey", I believe.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=75732#Comment_75732 2008-08-12T22:22:43-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 SexyMcmanbeast http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4240 Sting kinda looks like he is a much more sexually liberated Batman in that pic. And the fat guy reminds me of Doctor Robotnik from Sonic the Hedgehog. I played the sega games back int he early ... And the fat guy reminds me of Doctor Robotnik from Sonic the Hedgehog. I played the sega games back int he early 90's, before I saw Dune, so I always just think of the guy as "Dr. Robotnik" and can;t remember his actual character name.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=77484#Comment_77484 2008-08-20T06:44:33-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Steve http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2593 If you're still wanting to hear that mix I was talking about, I found it. http://www.zoop.org/archive/sound/ryan/ Remember, this is from the late 90's, so it was mixed for 2 sides of a tape.
http://www.zoop.org/archive/sound/ryan/

Remember, this is from the late 90's, so it was mixed for 2 sides of a tape.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=77598#Comment_77598 2008-08-20T20:41:04-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 Blye http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4112 wonderful :) New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=77599#Comment_77599 2008-08-20T20:45:58-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 LudwigTheurer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4312 I loved all dune adaptations in diferent ways. Dune 2 game was the first RTS .. and I loved it too! Lets hope the love goes on.
Dune 2 game was the first RTS .. and I loved it too!

Lets hope the love goes on.]]> New DUNE Film Adaptation In Development http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1460&Focus=77602#Comment_77602 2008-08-20T21:57:11-07:00 2013-05-18T14:47:26-07:00 CannonballKevin http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4291 Dune is a series I've had to read with extended breaks between books, due to the fact that my brain kind of boils after every installment due to length and content. And I mean that in the most ...
I'm really looking forward to this new Dune movie. I'm always interested when a classic story like this can be presented with modern movie technology. Casting should be pretty interesting as well.

I don't think anyone will be able to beat Kenneth McMillian's Baron yelling the word "Sadaukar!" however. No disrespect to "Woooooooommmms" from the Children miniseries.

More Dune. More Fremen. More chrysknives and Shai Hulud, please.]]>