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      CommentAuthorUnsub
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2008
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    I am about halfway through the new William Gibson novel and am quite liking it.
    I liked "Pattern Recognition" though and this is a similar book. If you were expecting something more like Nueromancer you may be disappointed.
    The lady at the library was not impressed with this one. She was more a fan of his earlier stuff as well.

    It is not quite a sequel to "Pattern Recognition" but it does have the Blue Ant company and a couple of characters.

    I think what I like most about it is the way it touches on a few of my favourite interests like Modern piracy ,shipping containers as giant lego ,benzos and weird KGB families in the 21st century.
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      CommentAuthormoali
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2008
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    I've read Pattern Recognition, but haven't read Spook Country as of yet....

    his novels are getting progressively more near-future now and have lost (what I guess some people still want) all the cyberpunk dirty neon of his earlier books...dunno if thats a good thing or a bad thing...personally I've shifted onto Jon Courtenay Grimwood's stuff which still has the future window-dressing but also the interesting stories...
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    There's another William Gibson thread on here somewhere.

    And pay attention, Bigend tells you what he did with the 'footage'
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    Moali: I've read the Arabesk stuff, and Lucifer's Dragon, and liked it, but was consistently disappointed with his climactic scenes. Then I read Stamping Butterflies, and just plain hated it. Is his more recent stuff more cyberpunk and less quantum-entanglement-fantasy-gibberish? Please say yes.

    On Gibson: Woefully inconsistent. Hopefully, Spook Country contains wonderful set-pieces, like the bridge shanty town sequences, or the rasta navy, or Chiba City. Does it? Someone say yes, so I'll actually read it.
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    David: Grimwood's latest is not cyberpunk - more near future murder mystery. A cop solving his own murder after waking in another man's body. This thread made me realise I've had it since last year and still haven't read it.I liked his earlier books - he seemed to be having fun writing those. The Arabesk trilogy was great too but I agree that SB was a little... long winded?
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      CommentAuthorRadioGuy
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2008 edited
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    My all-time favourite Gibson is Pattern Recognition, followed by Neuromancer as a close second. I think it has to do with the single perspective character employed in PR.... It just engages me more directly.

    Spook Country was good, though not great. Spook Country is to Pattern Recognition what Count Zero is to Neuromancer: A solid followup, but not quite achieving the greatness of the original.

    @moali: His novels are getting so near-future, Spook Country is set in the past! Heh.

    @David xvx Ludd: Woefully inconsistent? I'd disagree, but I suspect it depends on what each of us finds compelling in his works. After reading numerous interviews and his blog, I get the distinct impression that what I see in my head while reading is not what he saw in his head while writing. And that's the beauty of literature.
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    Indeed. My problem is that while each of his novels has outstanding moments, they each all tend to have sequences which have either dated terribly (in the case of - for example - the final VR sequences in Neuromancer) or just plain bizarre and disappointing MacGuffins (the holographic goggle things, for example) that hold them back from being truly brilliant.
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      CommentAuthorremotepush
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008
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    re-grimwood. he has another one since 9tailfox (which i've not read), "the end of the world blues" which has been in paperback in UK for about 6 months. i just finished reading it, its very contemporary, and i liked it a lot more than "stamping butterflies", but there is this whole "end of the world" thing in it which i don't find entirely fits. that thread bemused me a lot, but the main story of an awol brit soldier living in japan lured back to england to find an ex was pretty good. though no cyberpunk.

    just finished another re-read of pattern recognition. and am half way through first re-read of spook country. i love them both. though indeed very much changed from his past works. to a degree he had to change though.
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      CommentAuthorUnsub
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2008
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    I finished it now. I rather liked it. I enjoyed Pattern Recognition and thought this one was even better. More coherent and more interesting characters and situations.
    The only thing I did not like was the finding a east van drug dealer in order to steal a Glock. I used to live in East Van and it is the safest place in the world to be a drug dealer.
    It is one of the few places where when a drug dealer is the victim of a crime their first impulse is to call the police. Sure there probably some drug dealers with guns but probably 100/1 against.
    The police literally have to run a gauntlet of crack and heroin dealers because their police station is at Main and Hastings where a lot of the street level drugs are sold.
    Their is a safe injection site on that corner but the police in Canada go crazy for illegal guns.