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  1.  (153.1)
    Artemis says: "I think we ought to start a movement to bring the term "scientifiction" back."

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    Is that wise?

    Do we give a fuck if it's wise?

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    Does it denote period sf? Or are we saying, fuck you and your "cyberpunk" and your "Mundane SF" -- you're all writing Scientifiction.

    It is Scientifiction's world and you are all just living in it.

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  2.  (153.2)
    It's got a fairly addictive rhythm when you say it over and over... hmm
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      CommentAuthorSarpedon
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2007
     (153.3)
    Do we give a fuck if it's wise?

    No, sir, we do not give a fuck.
    I will do my best to use this term at every opportunity.
  3.  (153.4)
    But surely scientifiction can only be written by a pen/syringe hybrid operated by a series of cogs, according to those pictures. Who is willing to sell such a device to us? A scientificticator?
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      CommentAuthorcjh
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2007
     (153.5)
    I'm all for the return of scientifiction to the vernacular.
  4.  (153.6)
    I'm thinking the cog design goes well with the whitechapel design... is there some kind of ad-bust (for want of a better word) that you can do on the t-shirt?
  5.  (153.7)
    I do not understand the previous comment by screaming meat who may need a slap.
  6.  (153.8)
    I mean put the whitechapel-style design in a layout similar to the second picture as a T-shirt. Use it as a way of putting scientifiction out there.

    I apologise if I've annoyed.
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      CommentAuthorJay Kay
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2007
     (153.9)
    I'm not precisely sure what exactly is the difference between Scientifiction and regular sci-fi, but that is an awesome word.
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      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2007
     (153.10)
    When I made the suggestion I was more thinking of it as a replacement for sci fi, which I think is kind of an annoying, faux-hip term anyway. But I could totally get behind a movement of retro sf with that brand - I had an idea, actually, to write something like the bastard child of Robert Heinlein and Flash Gordon. That'd kick ass if a whole bunch of us started writing stuff like that.

    And thanks for running with the suggestion, Warren.
  7.  (153.11)
    It's a nice little game.

    I personally prefer "fantastika," and I remember Bruce Sterling was amusedly pushing "futurismic" a few years back...
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      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2007
     (153.12)
    I've heard Techno-Fantasy before, which works really well for things like Star Wars and oldschool Battlestar.
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      CommentAuthorFractal
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2007
     (153.13)
    FANTASTIKA remains my favorite. It has a lovely ring to it, and sounds pleasing when shouted loudly.
  8.  (153.14)
    @artemis

    so long as space-opera remains avoided.

    @Fractal

    I just scared my girlfriend trying that one out. You're so right. heh.
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      CommentAuthorAdmiral Neck
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2007 edited
     (153.15)
    And not "speculative fiction" either. Too defensive, like "graphic novel".
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      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2007 edited
     (153.16)
    I thought Spec Fic was supposed to be a catch-all for Science Fiction, Fantasy, and in some cases Horror?

    By the way, say the following in a '40s Newsreel voice: "Fact; Theory; SCIENTIFICTION!" Do it without smiling - I dare you.
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      CommentAuthorVespers
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2007
     (153.17)
    Artemis, I failed before I started because I was already amused by FANTASTIKA!

    But I would have failed anyway. These are both good words.
  9.  (153.18)
    'Scientifiction' sounds like a 'Bush-ism'.
  10.  (153.19)
    Ahhh scientifiction, brainchild of Hugo Gernsback, clunky in the extreme and unable to really codify much more than a slim piece of the growing pie of literature that was (for lack of a better term) speculative in some manner. My understanding was that it was an attempt get past other less charming terms like "science romance" and find something more interesting and genreficating as a catchall term. It, like some previous incarnation of Frankenstein's monster, did not survive long, and got supplanted by "science fiction," for better or worse.

    I dunno; I'm not sure what trying to bring it back would do other than provoke eye-rolls and some chortles, especially as "science fiction" is approaching canonical status (at least, according to this story from the summer. It is intriguing to think about an alternate universe where Gernsback named Amazing Stories Scientifiction instead. Or one where someone snuck back in time and planted FANTASTIKA! in his noggin. I mean, if one thing unites a lot of SF/Fantasy/Horror/Slipstream/SteampunkGothikaNewaveAlt-Hero, etc., it is that leap into something fantastic, whether it is deep-geek hard science, flighty-of-preposterous fantasy, quixotic non-mainstream surrealismo, or just overmuscled tight-wearers flogging the snot out of each other.

    Cripes, can ANY term cover all that?
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      CommentAuthorVespers
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2007
     (153.20)
    Cripes, can ANY term cover all that?

    'Imagination'