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    My problem isn't really with the hardcopy submission, I just thought it was a bit weird? If anything it works in favour for someone like me, I get to go the further mile with presentation etc... So that's not my main bug.

    But what I've read (this excludes the last two issues, so apologises for anything that might be tickling peoples' fancy in those two) more recently has really been dire stuff. I love science fiction in all its forms, I suck that shit up like a hover; and I love it even more that it is seen as a sub-genre sometimes. saying that, whatever sense of taste I pocess and have developed over the years cannot let me think for a moment that some of the stuff I've read in INTERZONE more recently has really been of a poor quality.

    These people have to put out a magazine I understand that, and they're doing that while I'm sitting in my study doing this, I'm more than aware of that. But sometimes it feels as if the mediocre is taking over?

    I read great fiction, sciencey or not all the time, maybe it's just not happening in the short story medium at the moment, or maybe it does pay enough for the people who are doing the stuff I like.

    On which, I would love to be proved wrong. If anyone wants to point me in the direction of something they think proves me full of shit (wouldn't be the first time) please, please do!
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    some of the stuff I've read in INTERZONE more recently has really been of a poor quality.

    Oh, I don't disagree. Like I say, I let my subscription run out some months ago. For every genuine clever stand-out piece like, say, Gareth Powell's ACK-ACK MACAQUE, there seems to be miles of dead ground to traverse.

    It's worth noting that, with very few exceptions, short stories pay for shit.
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    Will check out the Gareth Powell short, cheers.

    I figured the pay wouldn't be up for much, nature of the beast I suppose.

    I just can't help but feel there's a whole lot of stuff I'm missing out on reading out there. The short story, particularly for the science fiction genre, caters so well to this medium. I say this not only because my brain will only let me write short stories in this genre, but because I know by looking at my bookshelves and boxes in my attic that there's thousands that have come before that are just so f##king awesome. It feels as if it's been these last 3-4 years that the decline has been getting slightly more cliff-like?

    At Art college when 'Alternative Light' got published my friends and I shat ourselves because that was what we were crying out for; to this day we still send strange text messages and photo's to each other influenced by that book. My point is, what magazine out there at the moment caters for raw, original ideas that may take that form, or anything similar?

    As I mentioned before to be proved wrong would be a blessing. I'm just hungry, for something new.
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    I should mention the only thing that keeps me from complete withdrawl is the graphic novel medium!!
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    At Art college when 'Alternative Light' got published my friends and I shat ourselves because that was what we were crying out for

    What was "Alternative Light"?
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      CommentAuthorAriana
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2008
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    What was "Alternative Light"?
    I'd wager he meant AVAILABLE.
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      CommentAuthorJon Wake
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2008
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    Oh, sure. I'm just saying, dissing a magazine for insisting on hardcopy is bullshit, and says more about the people doing the complaining than it does about the magazine.

    Hey, if Weird Tales wanted submissions tattooed to carrier pigeon's asses in microdot, you'd better believe I'd invest in a needle gun and a magnifying glass.
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      CommentAuthoreDave
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2008 edited
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    Ack ack macaque? really? I didnt hate it, I know it won a poll of readers recently, but it didnt stand out for me at all. I'll have to look at it again. but really?
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    Ack ack macaque? really? I didnt hate it, I know it won a poll of readers recently, but it didnt stand out for me at all. I'll have to look at it again. but really?

    It had an energy, and an emotional truth to it, that is generally lacking in INTERZONE. It was a fun idea that he pulled off with cleverness, the people involved were real, and it wasn't afraid (as a lot of sf is) to be funny and bolshy and up front. It really stood out in the IZ crowd to me.

    I want to hear an author's voice when I read fiction. I want to read about real people (which sf is very bad at, still). And I want the author to throw out crazy borderline-stupid ideas and make them fun. So I may read books and short fiction for different reasons to other people, I don't know...
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    'Available light', you wager correct. Red wine and long work hours does me no good , but I hope you get my drift? Apologises!

    Warren is of course right, I want to hear what it is like for that particular author, that's the only thing that makes his/her's story what it is.

    I'm sure it's the same for most of us? you read something and it changes your environment, it rarefies the normal, you leave the comfort of your chair a different person; it elevates you above the corner grocer, it stimulates where the rest of the senses leave off, it provokes. This is the basis of most of Alan Moore's writing, I don't think it's anything new; most of what I like in the graphic novel medium fits this description. I almost think this is the basis for all the fiction that has ever influenced me?

    Willaim Gibson on the release of 'mona Lisa overdrive' said what interested him the most was 'the application of existing technology'. I think that says a lot, on many levels; and that is what I like; show me the world reflected in your eyes. I don't see this I really don't. Now maybe that's my fault? And it's not just INTERZONE, it's other places too.

    The hardcopy submission thing, I just thought it was weird! As I mentioned it would probably work in my favour. What I did submit was highly illustrated and had synopisis (is this also the plural?) written on tea-stained paper in calligraphy and red wine blottings.

    This is my thing: outside of a very few authors, almost all of which I only see in the comic book forum (there are of course exceptions), there is nothing out there that reflects NOW, a different now! There are things that for me after an 'Alternative Light' to name but one, has never been the same since; every time I see that green mesh covering over a building, or a trail of areoplane smoke in the air... This has all changed, it's fallen into a different place in my reality; and I like that, that's why I read. And it is my small, humble, personal opinion that I don't see this reflected in any of the si fi magazines at the moment, INTERZONE being just one.

    Everything I've read on this tread since my 'negative voice' blurt has been correct, I mean there is no wrong. But there is more, and there is better, and I don't think INTERZONE reflects that at present.

    The fact that I can make these statements here (right or wrong) and I get an intelligent response is a privilege! I'm new to Whitechapel, and that may take me a while to find my voice, or least a a less offensive one; but regardless 'nothing is true and everything is permitted'.
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    I said 'Alternative light' again didn't I.

    That noise is me sharpening my very special blade.
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      CommentAuthorLucifal
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2008
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    de umbris idearum: I don't see this reflected in any of the si fi magazines at the moment
    Do you include Murky Depths?
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    @ Lucifal

    Murky Depths is new to me. Shall check it out straight away. Thankx for the tip!
    • CommentAuthorLivin Tree
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2008
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    In my country (I'm from Poland) there's not so many magazines about Fantasy, SF and Horror. There are only two that I know - One is called "Science Fiction", but it's not stricte SF, and the second i "Nowa Fantastyka" ("New Fantastika" in English, I think), which is also about all kinds of Fantastika. I'm buying "Nowa Fantastyka", because they are better - every issue they have at least one novel from popular writer from other parts of the world, like Resnick or Disch (and propably the last interwiev to Disch was one maked by their reporter). And also I've sent a novel for their literally contest, and I'm still waiting for the results.
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    @ Livin Tree

    Hope your novel finds success! Just having completed a body of work big enough to be called a novel deserves a pat on the back. Bravo!