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    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/01/kids.plot.ap/index.html

    Now we can't even trust little kids. Not that we could before, but we never had to worry about them plotting and such. For me, the earth is officially uninhabitable. One of these kids was the ringleader, a right little sociopath. And that kid is going to make Hitler look like a pussycat. I somehow knew the Antichrist would come from the South.
    • CommentAuthorDracko
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2008
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    Godwin's law so soon?
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    aren't kids supposed to crash land on a deserted island during wartime before that starts to happen?!
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      CommentAuthorgabrieli
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2008 edited
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    And this is why my kids are going to be home schooled, before heading off to private school. WTF? As a 3rd grader, my biggest problem was, who would when between Spiderman and Superman in a DC/Marvel crossover, not little psychopaths running the halls beside me.
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    @gabrieli

    kryptonite webbing ;)
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    "We did not hear anybody say they intended to kill her, but could they have accidentally killed her? Absolutely," Tanner said. "We feel like if they weren't interrupted, there would have been an attempt. Would they have been successful? We don't know."


    Anybody who has raised children through that age can tell you that they can come up with all manner of nefarious plots and never attempt to carry them out. And who among us hasn't wanted to kill one of our teachers at some time or another?

    Now, here's an interesting detail:

    The purported target is a veteran educator who teaches third-grade students with learning disabilities, including attention deficit disorder, delayed development and hyperactivity, friends and parents said.


    In other words, the round pegs who can't fit in the square holes the system insists they fill. So give them Ritalin, which has been shown to cause psychosis in 4 percent of the kids that use it. Maybe there is a reason to fear and loathe 10-year-olds nowadays.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2008
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    Anybody who has raised children through that age can tell you that they can come up with all manner of nefarious plots and never attempt to carry them out. And who among us hasn't wanted to kill one of our teachers at some time or another?

    Hell, there were stupid rhymes we used to sing at each other at the school that I went to about it.
  5.  (1650.8)
    my friends and i manufactured many plots in grade school that would have gotten us arrested and sent to prison for life if we were growing up now. some of us did bring weapons to school, but the only serious assault commited during my grade school years was performed with a pencil. the ringleaders of our little gang turned into teachers, artists, and computer programmers. not a sociopath in the bunch.
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      CommentAuthorliquidcow
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2008
     (1650.9)
    I love stories like this, because I get sick of people who think that kids are innocent little angels. Quite the opposite, kids actually lack a certain amount of empathy and understanding that comes with maturity, hence, like the guy says, they probably didn't really understand the consequences of stabbing their teacher. Or, like Scott says, they weren't really going to go through with it, but they did go as far as bringing the stuff to school so who knows. Did you know that the ancient Greeks didn't believe that children even had souls?
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2008
     (1650.10)
    Tame.
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      CommentAuthorroque
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2008 edited
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    Police chief:
    But because they are kids, they may have thought this was like a cartoon -- we do whatever and then she stands up and she's OK.

    holy jesus. either children have become really frighteningly stupid, or police chiefs have.
    • CommentAuthorDracko
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2008
     (1650.12)
    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    I'm banking on the latter, and also on the idea that it's mostly ever been the case.

    Kids are pretty awesome, comparatively.
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    @Dracko (your first one)
    Of course, best to get it out of the way quickly. I even threw in the antichrist for good measure.

    @ScottBieser
    it does what!? i never knew this about ritalin. all it did for me was leave me socially retarded. which ain't much better.

    @roque
    its the police chiefs. nobody ever gives kids enough credit. these are 8, 9, and 10 year olds. we weren't stupid back then and the kids now are smarter than ever. I remember for the longest time i was a kiddie anarchist. my logic back then was that there was at least 2 kids to every adult in the world (which is probably untrue) so, if done right, kids could take power and control the world. thinking back, something was terribly wrong with me...
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      CommentAuthornoblelion
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2008
     (1650.14)
    @ScottBieser - Ritalin and Adderall... Ugh... The latter turns kids into zombies for about three or four weeks, and then unleashes any pent-up anger they've been harboring, all at once. Don't know the statistics, but every kid I've worked with who started taking Adderall was an angel for the first few weeks they were on it, and then turned demonic (as reported by parents) after that.

    Then again, I know a few kids under 7 years who are prescribed cocktails of drugs. One in particular is on Risperdal, Adderall, Depakote, and was formerly on Lithium as well... but they cut that out, because it was a bit too much, apparently.
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      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeApr 3rd 2008
     (1650.15)
    Aderol is especially bad about this. I was on both for a while, and I tell you, the ritalin wasn't that bad except that I didn't want to eat anything at all. I'm not saying the drugs are the cause (we don't even know if the kids were medicated) but I think it should be looked into, of nothing else.

    On the other hand, there is the case of that 10-year-old kid that stabbed and sodomized a younger boy and later didn't seem to feel bad about it at all. So kids can snap just as easily as adults.
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    Ritalin and Adderall are schedule II drugs.

    Oh, your child has behavioral issues, super - we'd like to prescribe highly addictive controlled substances. Should fix him right up.
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      CommentAuthorChrisSick
    • CommentTimeApr 3rd 2008
     (1650.17)
    This reminds me of a conversation I lucked into about race on CNN and they were discussing how if a fourteen year old brings a nine millimeter into a school and murders two classmates it only becomes a national discussion if the children in question are white, suburban and from affluent homes, never if it's a black child from an inner city environment. I just thought that was worth throwing into the conversational mix.

    As for this, if you're talking about children that already have some sort of learning/social disability and are grouped together that decided, for whatever reason, they need to attack their teacher and hatch an elaborate plan to do it, I wonder what would've happened if no one had found out? My instinct tells me that things like this(planning attacks) happens fairly often to maladjusted little brats, but how many of them are actually carried out? The fact that the kids brought weapons to school is disconcerting, but again, I wonder how likely they were to have actually carried it out. But since they were caught I see a few a few cable news investigative specials in the future trying to solve the rising trouble of violence in our schools. God knows that'll help.
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      CommentAuthorChrisSick
    • CommentTimeApr 3rd 2008
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    And, to the prescription drugs for children debate, yeah, giving your children what is basically formulated amphetamine to help them focus in class is most likely never a good idea.
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      CommentAuthorVespers
    • CommentTimeApr 3rd 2008
     (1650.19)
    @RenThing

    Heh... at mine, it was a simple variation on the Joy to the World, Barney's dead song, with Teacher instead of Barney. Oh, the amusement.
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      CommentAuthorAlexis
    • CommentTimeApr 3rd 2008
     (1650.20)
    And this is why my kids are going to be home schooled, before heading off to private school.


    I think home-schooling produces at least as many weird children, if not more, and plenty of private schools are worse than plenty of public schools, I know where I grew up the kids at the private Catholic high school were WAY worse than the public school kids, because parents send already troubled kids there.
    I don't think kids are any worse than there ever were, but a couple of factors have changed.
    1. Kids who used to drop out are now being forced to stay in school. This applies mostly to high school, but still. Not everyone is made for academic education.
    2. Kids that people used to give up on and keep home or institutionalize are ow being sent to public schools and special ed. It's better than lobotomizing them, even if it doesn't always work out. A special ed or interlude teacher will tell you that violence from a student isn't unusual.
    3. The myth of the "Golden Age." Kids weren't better behaved when you were young, but there were less of them, and way less news and media coverage of this sort of thing. Since ancient history people have clung to this thought that "in my day" things were different.

    I'm not saying that this is a good turn of events, I just hate to see people overreact to something like this. If copycats start popping up, then I'll worry. Although I think third grade is way too old to think your teacher is a cartoon. Adults forget how kids think sometimes, I think.

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