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    • CommentAuthorDracko
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2008
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    <img src="http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2976/beijing2008xm6.gif" alt="" />
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    Lovely.

    I'm waiting to see how long it takes them to be slapped with a lawsuit.
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      CommentAuthorEgon
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2008
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    It's funny `cause it's true.
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    Heh. That animated one has been around for a while and is chilling in it's accuracy.
    Lots of problems for the torch bearers today.
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2008 edited
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    They're not fairing any better <a href="http://news.google.com/news?ned=us&hl=en&q=olympic+torch+relay+Paris&btnG=Search">in Paris</a>.

    I doubt they'll have better luck in <a href="http://news.google.com/news?ned=us&hl=en&q=olympic+torch+relay+San+Francisco&btnG=Search">San Francisco</a>.

    <blockquote>The traditional global relay carrying the Olympic torch to the site of the Games is supposed to convey the inextinguishable vigor of the Olympic spirit. But the Chinese are finding it instead a symbolic disaster. The running of the torch in London Sunday was marred by attempts by human rights protesters to extinguish its fire, but on Monday in Paris the ceremony became an outright farce: security officials doused the flame twice in the face of demonstrations to block its progress, and wound up driving it to the end-of-day handoff ceremony at Charl├ęty Stadium on the edge of the city when the tormented relay was cancelled at mid-course. As the torch moves on to San Francisco and Buenos Aires before heading back to Africa and Asia, the organizers of this summer's Beijing Games are facing a grim prospect: that the protests denouncing China's human rights record in Tibet and elsewhere could mount as the torch continues its 85,000 mile, 20-nation voyage.</blockquote>
    <blockquote>Given the troubles in France, Chinese officials are now almost certainly even more concerned over the torch's upcoming stops in San Francisco and Sydney. Both cities have large activist communities, which have been especially vocal on Chinese human rights abuses in the past. </blockquote>

    From <a href="http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1728432,00.html">this article</a>.

    - Z
    • CommentAuthorWinther
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2008
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    Personally, I just had myself a little laugh watching the Danish Minister of Culture making what can only be called a non-statement on the issues yesterday:

    Newswoman: And now, the situation in China has caused the Minister of Culture to make a drastic decision, which he will now share with us. Minister?

    Minister of Culture: Thank you. Yes, if China does not change its stance on some of these issues, I may have to begin to reconsider whether I'll attend the opening ceremonies.

    Of course, this is quoted loosely from memory, but it's pretty accurate. In fact, if anything I'm probably being too kind. There may have been more words of uncertainty in the sentence - 'I might have to begin to deliberate whether I should possibly think about considering going to, or not going to, the ceremonies. Maybe.'

    In any case, I think the gesture of a few public figures boycutting the opening ceremonies is so symbolic that it approaches complete irrelevance. These may not be the most successful Olympic Games ever, but thinking that this can actually be used as leverage to foster change in China in any meaningful way seems... more than a little optimistic.
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      CommentAuthortikistitch
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2008
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    Spiraltwist, that's lovely!

    We saw Beijing for the very first time last summer. There was Olympic crap EVERYWHERE, including a gigantic plushie version of one of the mascots that was as least ast tall as me.

    olympic crap

    (My friend is obviously a shop display, but look behind in the window. And these shops were omnipresent.)

    I'm still wondering how they're going to make everybody stop spitting in time.
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2008
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    <a href="http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=olympic+torch+relay+Paris+cancels&btnG=Search+News">Paris had to cancel the remaining lap of the relay.</a>
    <blockquote>The last part of the Olympic torch relay in Paris was canceled Monday after a day of chaos in which anti-China protesters forced authorities to extinguish the flame at least five times, take to a bus and skip some scheduled stops, including city hall.
    </blockquote>
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    I am currently sitting about two blocks from the Embarcadero, the main drag on the east side of San Francisco where the torch is gonna be transported (one way or another)- I'm still debating if I should even go into the city on the 9th, or come in early and find a nice window seat in a bar and set up my camera.

    The route was to have gone across the Golden Gate Bridge and through Chinatown - now that would have made for protest gold....
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2008 edited
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    @Kitsune

    I had no idea you were up there (or I forgot; probable the latter). I'm out by MV.

    <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/07/bridge.protest/index.html"> Tibet protesters scale Golden Gate bridge</a>
    <blockquote><strong> (CNN) -- </strong>Three protesters scaled the Golden Gate Bridge on Monday [..] with a banner proclaiming "Free Tibet."

    Those scaling the bridge, carrying a "Free Tibet" banner, are members of the group Students for a Free Tibet [..]</blockquote>
    <img src="http://ap.google.com/media/ALeqM5grZNusYx3svcigbChFTKTGLs7_3A?size=m" alt="" />
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    I'm wondering if, when the Olympics comes back to the US, we're going to see protests on this scale?

    Oh and Hillary Clinton just called for Bush to Boycott the opening ceremonies.

    That's gonna go over well.
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    "One World - One Dream - Free Tibet. Oh, and Legalize It...."

    @Z - got a consulting gig on 2nd, just down from AT&T Park. Er, and it's Opening Day today. yay....
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2008 edited
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    <strong>@Kitsune </strong>
    Ugh, god, the pier... ..I go every other Saturday or so for Bluebottle Coffee and groceries. It's a sea of humanity, that is. I'll drop a line to you next time I go, you're welcome to have a cup with me.

    * * *

    <a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=4605122">Spin control, go! </a>
    <blockquote>When pro-Tibet activists disrupted the Olympic torch relay in London, television viewers in China might be forgiven for thinking everything was going well in the British capital thousands of miles away. The London relay was not broadcast live on Chinese TV and the widely watched evening newscast did not mention the protests that night.

    Those who had access to CNN International and BBC World Service  mainly foreigners staying in select hotels and residential compounds and a growing number of Chinese homes equipped with satellite dishes  got their first indication of the protests when their cable TV signals were interrupted several times during the broadcast, particularly when the activists got in the way of the torch-bearer.

    [..]

    The first indication of official anger finally came in a dispatch from the official Xinhua news agency after midnight.

    A report described how London police foiled an attempt to grab the Olympic torch and a statement from a Beijing Olympic official strongly criticized the activists for attempting to "sabotage" the Olympic torch relay and "defying" the Olympic spirit.

    The stage was now set for explaining the protests to the Chinese public.

    The Monday editions of Chinese newspapers all carried the same Xinhua report and the statement from the Beijing Olympic official, although these items were downplayed in comparison to longer reports about the Olympic torch's "warm reception in cold London," as the China Daily put it in its headline. </blockquote>

    - Z
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    Amusing... considering the Torch Relay was created for the 1936 Munich games by Hitler and Goebbels as a symbol of Aryan strength.

    Funny how meanings change over time isn't it?

    Link
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    Nude Torch Run - San Francisco

    Now I think I will be bringing a camera. I heart my city....
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2008
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    <blockquote><strong>CNN -- </strong>One of the San Francisco torchbearers has dropped out of Wednesday's relay because of fears of protests, a torch relay spokesman told CNN.

    David Perry, spokesman for the San Francisco Olympic Torch Relay, said he did not want to release the name of the person.

    "I understand anyone that might feel that they don't want to expose themselves to something more than protest," Perry said.</blockquote>
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2008
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    <strong><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/09/torch.protest/index.html"> Olympic torch protests begin in San Francisco</a></strong>
    <blockquote>S<strong>AN FRANCISCO, California (CNN) --</strong> Thousands of demonstrators were in San Francisco on Wednesday for the Olympic Torch run [..]

    Police officers' vacations have been canceled. Mayor Gavin Newsom has said that the route along the waterfront -- already cut from eight to six miles -- could be changed up to and even during the run itself.

    [..]

    Activists are in town from both camps: people who believe the Games should not be held in China and those who support the event.

    In the early hours Wednesday, busloads of Beijing Olympics supporters, dressed in red and waving Chinese flags, arrived and assembled near the city's McCovey Cove, six hours before the torch run was scheduled to start there.

    [..]

    San Francisco is the only U.S. stop for the torch relay, where it wraps up the first week of a 23-city international tour.

    [..]

    "We express our strong condemnation to the deliberate disruption of the Olympic torch relay by Tibetan separatist forces regardless of the Olympic spirit and the law of Britain and France," China spokeswoman Jiang Yu said Tuesday. "Their despicable activities tarnish the lofty Olympic spirit and challenge all the people loving the Olympic Games around the world."</blockquote>
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      CommentAuthorCyman
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2008
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    Um... orwells, just to clarify, the US Olympics won't be protested on this scale unless the US actively engages in Tibetan genocide or displaces an entire culture of indigenous people (maybe you're referring to the Native Americans?)

    In the immortal words of Kevin Smith: "Fuck China"

    But I don't think the Tibetan buddhists are super keen on supporting extreme negativity, the whole bit is basically 'support what you love instead of depricating the things you hate', but still... if you value human life, you're already boycotting Chinese products/ Chinese tourism and basically anything that supports the Chinese government/ economy.

    The olympics are just masturbation on a national scale, but maybe I'm just saying that because I'm from a country that sucks at this stuff. Vancouver 2010! WHOOO!
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    this is all very exciting stuff, i love it!

    having been to tibet and seen the media's coverage of everything it doesn't suprise me in the slightest that it's all being filtered. while i was there they were celebrating the anniversary of the 'liberation of the autonomous region of mongolia'. this was being broadcast on the only english speaking news channel in the country...

    they also had dubbed spongebob squarepants on tv.

    it's a difficult issue, and although i don't personally believe tibet will ever be free, what the chinese have done and have been doing is atrocious. hell, they beat my tibetan guide with rifles while i was sleeping upstairs...

    apparantly the chinese are allowing only chinese nationals to attend the games, no foreigners and definatly no tibetans. people will still get though though, they'll find a way.

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