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      CommentAuthorgroonk
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2008
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    "Blogs, wikis and social networking are, indeed, assaulting our economy, our culture and our values. Web 2.0 is pushing us back into the Dark Ages."

    knee jerk reaction: he must be upset that his work didn't sell via his blog and he can't force a "real company" to buy what he really wants to write. and so he tears into something that'll get folks riled up and in attack mode. which in turn gets people to buy his book.

    insidious bastard.

    or am i giving him too much credit?

    @iangil: that's how i recently described Wikipedia. it's watercooler conversation. stuff that he heard she said. if you want more accurate info, there are better places for that. i'm curious as to why everyone trusts a hardbound encyclopedia implicitly. like they never make a mistake that goes unnoticed for years hidden between leaves of dead trees.
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      CommentAuthorScribe
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2008
     (1734.42)

    knee jerk reaction: he must be upset that his work didn't sell via his blog and he can't force a "real company" to buy what he really wants to write. and so he tears into something that'll get folks riled up and in attack mode. which in turn gets people to buy his book.


    I agree. This is "no one was listening to me so I'll write a book about it."

    I believe that the internet doesn't change much in the way of the socio/economica/political landscape. The only thing it does it speed up response time to those that will respond to you.

    Instead of ordering that great XJ-90 new and improved blow up doll from the 2am informercial by phone, you can look order it by internet.

    Instead of waiting for the newspaper to give you lasts night's news, you can now log on to any one of a thousand newspaper websites and get instant gratification.

    Instead of having to wait three to five days to get a written letter, you can now log onto your e-mail at any given time and send/receive a letter in a blink of an eye.

    The internet still does not give control the end user. You can put up what ever blog you want, but unless you are CNN/MSNBC/NY Times, or any other 'legitimate' news site, no one but the handful of faithful followers will ever care about what you have to say. Even if you have 40-50 thousand viewers on your blog, that's still a drop in the bucket compared to the many million mindless who watch Fox news, the million plus that watch CNN, or even the hundreds of thousands that watch any given MSNBC show.

    You can write letters to any given media outlet in hopes that your grudge gets printed or makes it to air, but there are still the gatekeepers who control what gets printed or put on air. You could always leave a comment on a story on the internet; but who really reads all those comments?

    The internet was suppose to free us and finally deliver true democracy, but in the end all it has done is speed up the status quo.
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    i do have to say that for some subjects, wikipedia is extremely useful. what "legitimate" source has an acurate, factual history of power violence music or first wave fastcore bands? none that i could find.

    on the other hand, if you wiki search "phoenix hardcore" you find a statement that i am responsible for an aids outbreak, so you gotta take the good with the bad...i of course left it up because i find this hilarious, as well as the fact that i am "famous in the phoenix scene for various drawings of stick figures", hahahaha
    • CommentAuthoreldafto
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2008
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    @Scribe:
    To some extent, speeding up the status quo does deliver a truer democracy because it allows individuals to encounter a broader range of opinion.

    Personally I think Mr Keen has it wrong, because he assumes the audience is stupid and cant differentiate between social and corporate media. But then I work in social media, do I could be very wrong.
    • CommentAuthorExNihilo
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2008
     (1734.45)
    For anyone who's interested, a link to the condescending elitist who authored said book making an ass of himself on The Colbert Report by completely missing the obvious fact that he was talking to a character may be found here.
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      CommentAuthorCCosker
    • CommentTimeMay 4th 2008
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    How close can we come to achieving art when we're all plugging ourselves into the monoculture that is MySpace and Blogger and Facebook? And if not these, how else can we reach a discussion with our peers over vast distances?

    I'm starting to wonder why I maintain a blog at all. Also, I'm wondering how I can use the internet.

    To me, the single most amazing news story this year was of Ashley Alexandra Dupre--Eliot Spitzer's whore--who earned several hundred thousand dollars overnight after her name was leaked by the press and the hoards of the Internet descended upon her MySpace page to download her silly cowgirl song for a dollar apiece. Not because her work was any good, but because she was suddenly famous.

    The guy who runs suffwhitepeoplelike.com has a book deal.

    The kids who made Ryan vs. Dorkman got financed to make a TV pilot with the guy who played Darth Maul.

    This stuff amazes me.
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    You know... Ryan Vs. Dorkman has some superb choreography, better than that seen in the last three Star Wars films at least.

    And Keen is a professional Troll, the sooner we ignore him the better.
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    Oh yeah, I got a book deal as well (plus sequel), and I'm an amateur. Which from the French means 'I love' - yes, I 'love' writing. And I can kick Keen in the face, because not onl do I love it, but I also do quite well at it.

    (At least when I've not been drinking gallons of Stella)

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