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    • CommentAuthorShawn
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2007 edited
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    So I'm in the midst of re-watching the first two seasons in order to finally start the third (we do not pay for cable and as such we see everything later than many... just finished watching Sopranos start to finish. Between Sara's work schedule and my own that took a while.. fucking brilliant though). Hip deep in it I am so enthralled with the characters, especially Swearengen. Unfortunately I just read something on line that the movie HBO promised to tie up the loose ends after cancelling it a season early is now KA-PUT. Fuck!!! Why do I always fall in love with shows that end early (starting with Twin Peaks which I swear cursed me for al time). This is probably old news (correction: definitely old news) but are there any other fans out there that know any more about the status?

    Anyone have any thoughts, comments or general blither-blather about this epic show?
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      CommentAuthorAdmiral Neck
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2007 edited
     (180.2)
    The show's not coming back any time soon. David Milch promised a couple of movies but when HBO commissioned his nonsensical Surfing Jesus show, John From Cincinnati, he appeared to lose interest. That show got cancelled after one season, and next he's doing some cop show or other. I can't be bothered to find out the name of that, because it isn't fucking Deadwood, so who cares? At least it won't feature Rebecca DeMornay screaming all her lines like in JFC. I hope.

    Granted, it's hard to get the Deadwood cast back, what with Timothy Olyphant making mega-blockbuster super-successes like the Hitman movie, and the rest of the townsfolk spread to the Four Winds like so much talented chaff, but it would be so sweet if HBO made the effort.
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    I agree it was fantastic, though season 3 started to falter a lot with not much really happening, none of those "fuck yes" moments at the end of episodes, but it definitely felt like it was going somewhere. Shame it'll never reach.

    At the very least, I hope it's propelling Ian McShane into more film and television because he is just... just goddamn great.
  4.  (180.4)
    and next he's doing some cop show or other. I can't be bothered to find out the name of that, because it isn't fucking Deadwood, so who cares?

    The description of the main character from the upcoming cop show sounds exactly like Andy Sipowicz's (from NYPD Blue) backstory though, so that might be interesting.
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      CommentAuthorJaredRules
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2007
     (180.5)
    Me and my friends just finished the first season. It is a really really great show!!
    Best part ever? Trashed Calamity Jane talking to Dying Small Pox victim in the woods. I couldn't even breathe I was laughing so hard.
    • CommentAuthorMaximus
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2007
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    Al Swearengen (Ian McShane) makes swearing sound like poetry. Rarely has TV provided us with such a consistently entertaining character. Deadwood was an amazing series, and will remain unrivaled in television for some time, no doubt.
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    I think DEADWOOD, on the whole, is possibly the best tv series yet produced in America. I'd rate it over THE SOPRANOS.

    It stumbles in the third season -- you can pretty much spot the point where a fourth season was yanked away from them, and there's a lot of vamping to cover the damage that did to the structure -- but there are still some transcendent moments in there.

    It's my understanding that Milch is simply no longer interested in creating the planned two telefilms. The cancellation of JOHN FROM CINCINATTI (the Magic Retard is Jesus' son and all surfers are knobends -- there, no need to watch it now) seems to have shaken Milch, and he's made some odd proclamations about DEADWOOD since, such as asserting that the show would still be on the air if he'd been able to get Ed O'Neil to play Al Swearengen.
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      CommentAuthorjeansnow
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2007
     (180.8)
    It's only recently that I got to watch the third season, and I think I ended up watching the whole thing in 2-3 days. Warren, I know what mean about stumbling, but damn, it was still a hell of a great storyline.

    JOHN FROM CINCINATTI was barely watchable. I'm still amazed I managed to watch it all.
  9.  (180.9)
    DEADWOOD and THE WIRE are, in my opinion, the very best TV has to offer.

    I miss watching Ian McShane as Swearengen.
  10.  (180.10)
    I couldn't get through JOHN FROM CINCINATTI. Two and a half episodes, I think it was, in total.
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      CommentAuthorAdmiral Neck
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2007 edited
     (180.11)
    The sixth episode features a scene with Surfing Jesus delivering his new Sermon in a parking lot while the rest of the cast stands around. It made no sense. NO SENSE! None whatsoever. But it was riveting. I thought the show had turned a corner, going from pointlessly alienating to alienating but potentially fascinating, and looked forward to the next four episodes. And yet I ended up not watching them, because one more second of DeMornay's screeching and Brian Van Holt's inability to swear with any conviction (difficult to get around when every other word out of his fat head was "motherfucker") would have broken my brain. Here's the awesome/dreadful/insired/pretentious scene in question.



    In a Salon talkback, Jim Beaver discussed the cancellation of Deadwood:

    "Deadwood," they told me, cost six million an episode, not one million -- far beyond the typical cost of a series episode as I understand it. And David Milch, however the decision came to be made, was to my eyes both devastated and livid that HBO chose not to continue "Deadwood." Certainly it's quite common for a producer to create a new show while he has a hit running. It happens all the time. And the first script for what became "John From Cincinnati" was written in 2002, before "Deadwood's" first episode had even been filmed.


    Scroll down for information about the telefilms (quick recap: don't hold your breath).
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      CommentAuthorFutty
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2007
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    The flowery insulting of Richardson at the hands of E.B. is my favorite indulgence of the show. Poor dumb Richardson.
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    I think Deadwood is brilliant. But as for the best show in America, or probably of all time, is The Wire. And don't knock it down before you've seen an entire season because it doesn't work like any other show, none of the episodes are written as stand alones. Each season is one book, put it that way.
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    I love me some deadwood ... I do find myself using the word cocksucker every five minutes after watching an episode ... but thats a small price to pay
    • CommentAuthortmofee
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2007
     (180.15)
    One of my favourite moments from the show is with Al and Wu trying to figure out who stole Al's dope from Wu's men..

    "Who stole the fucking dope!" "Wu?" "Not WU, WHO!!" "COCKSUCKER!!!!"
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      CommentAuthorDerleth
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2007
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    I watched the abysmal film, Hot Rod, just for more SWE-GEN. Of course, he was the best fifteen minutes of the damn thing, but, not a single fucken or cocksucker to be heard.

    *sigh*

    Okay, I watched it to drool over Isla Fisher, too. Dammit.
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      CommentAuthorToga
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2007
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    As much as I loved Deadwood, I think it ended at the right time. I would rather have it finish in quality that drag it out for season after season (see The Sopranos).
    • CommentAuthortmofee
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2007
     (180.18)
    The problem with that is that they had plans for that show. Little hints here and there that were completely dropped because of cancellation. The mysterious stranger with the acting group, the great fire, things are just dropped by the end which is kind of sad.

    I say that show had one, maybe two good years left in it.
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    Look at shows like "Dead Like Me" and "Carnivale". Two very good shows, IMO, both of which Showtime cancelled right when they were getting damned interesting. It always happens to shows that show promise.
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      CommentAuthorUnsub
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2007
     (180.20)
    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    I loved deadwood and I can help you all with the closure you need.

    Spoiler warning

    The Deadwood characters are all based on real people. There was even a whore named trixie. Swe Gen cashed out from deadwood very well off
    lost all his money gambling ,drinking etc and died penniless hopping a train. Bullok became very powerful ,was a great friend to president Teddy
    and I think he was senator or governor or something. Calamity Jane died of a disease (I think) and was definitly buried in the Deadwood cemetery.
    If you want to find out about specific people their is a wikipedia site that has them all.

    I hoped this was helpful.

    It makes sense that the characters were so good because they acted like real people.

    The filthy awful mayor (My other brother Dave) was actually well liked and respected.

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